What if you lose your faith?

[Johann]

Saying something hateful?..I could never keep up with you and JimB. No flailing and no tantrums. But I do have some scriptures that I think you need to review. Or at least have your black magic marker out to line them out.

2nd Corinthians :5:10: For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

1st Corinthians 6:9-10 “Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will not inherit the kingdom of God.”

Galatians 5:21 Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: sexual immorality, impurity, indecent behavior, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hostilities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions, 21 envy, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Revelation 21:8
But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

Matthew 7:22-23 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

Hebrews 10: 26-31
For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries. Anyone who has set aside the Law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

2nd Peter 2:1-21
But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned; and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.

For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment; and did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a preacher of righteousness, with seven others, when He brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly; And if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by reducing them to ashes, having made them an example to those who would live ungodly lives thereafter; and if He rescued righteous Lot, oppressed by the sensual conduct of unprincipled men (for by what he saw and heard that righteous man, while living among them, felt his righteous soul tormented day after day by their lawless deeds), then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from temptation, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment for the day of judgment, and especially those who indulge the flesh in its corrupt desires and despise authority. Daring,
self-willed, they do not tremble when they revile angelic majesties,

whereas angels who are greater in might and power do not bring a reviling judgment against them before the Lord. But these, like unreasoning animals, born as creatures of instinct to be captured and killed, reviling where they have no knowledge, will in the destruction of those creatures also be destroyed, suffering wrong as the wages of doing wrong. They count it a pleasure to revel in the daytime. They are stains and blemishes, reveling in their deceptions, as they carouse with you, having eyes full of adultery that never cease from sin, enticing unstable souls, having a heart trained in greed, accursed children;

forsaking the right way, they have gone astray, having followed the way of Balaam, the son of Beor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; but he received a rebuke for his own transgression, for a mute donkey, speaking with a voice of a man, restrained the madness of the prophet. These are springs without water and mists driven by a storm, for whom the black darkness has been reserved. For speaking out arrogant words
of vanity they entice by fleshly desires, by sensuality, those who barely escape from the ones who live in error, promising them freedom while they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by what a man is overcome, by this he is enslaved.

For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and are overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first, For it would be better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn away from the holy commandment handed on to them. It has happened to them according to the true proverb, “A dog returns to its own vomit,” and, “A sow, after washing, returns to wallowing in the mire.”

1st John:3:8:
the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil.

You guys need to put your minds together and consider living your lives in a way that is pleasing to God.

It means baptized....when we are baptized, we are sealed with the Holy Spirit.

Deu_32:34 Is not this laid up in store with me, and sealed up among my treasures?
1Ki_21:8 So she wrote letters in Ahab's name, and sealed them with his seal, and sent the letters unto the elders and to the nobles that were in his city, dwelling with Naboth.
Neh_10:1 Now those that sealed were, Nehemiah, the Tirshatha, the son of Hachaliah, and Zidkijah,
Est_3:12 Then were the king's scribes called on the thirteenth day of the first month, and there was written according to all that Haman had commanded unto the king's lieutenants, and to the governors that were over every province, and to the rulers of every people of every province according to the writing thereof, and to every people after their language; in the name of king Ahasuerus was it written, and sealed with the king's ring.
Est_8:8 Write ye also for the Jews, as it liketh you, in the king's name, and seal it with the king's ring: for the writing which is written in the king's name, and sealed with the king's ring, may no man reverse.
Est_8:10 And he wrote in the king Ahasuerus' name, and sealed it with the king's ring, and sent letters by posts on horseback, and riders on mules, camels, and young dromedaries:
Job_14:17 My transgression is sealed up in a bag, and thou sewest up mine iniquity.
Son_4:12 A garden inclosed is my sister, my spouse; a spring shut up, a fountain sealed.
Isa_29:11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:
Jer_32:10 And I subscribed the evidence, and sealed it, and took witnesses, and weighed him the money in the balances.
Jer_32:11 So I took the evidence of the purchase, both that which was sealed according to the law and custom, and that which was open:
Jer_32:14 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Take these evidences, this evidence of the purchase, both which is sealed, and this evidence which is open; and put them in an earthen vessel, that they may continue many days.
Dan_6:17 And a stone was brought, and laid upon the mouth of the den; and the king sealed it with his own signet, and with the signet of his lords; that the purpose might not be changed concerning Daniel.
Dan_12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
Joh_6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.
Rom_15:28 When therefore I have performed this, and have sealed to them this fruit, I will come by you into Spain.
2Co_1:22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.
Eph_1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Eph_4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.



You show me where the sealing of the Spirit is the same as sacraments.

J.

 

[Johann]

Is a person that comes to reject God willfully rejecting His grace?

Also, I'd like to see some verses that state we cannot ever forfeit our salvation...
in light of all the verses that state we can, which I'll be happy to state AGAIN.

And I'd like to know WHY we are EXHORTED in the NT to live Godly lives.

Also, maybe an explanation of Jesus' teachings in Matthew 24/24?
Where Jesus tells us we must DO some things....

There's more...

Here I am in agreement with you, but not the sealing of the Holy Spirit is the same as water baptism in your other post.
J.

 

[Johann]

Please explain to us what SEALED mans in the NT.

It means baptized....when we are baptized, we are sealed with the Holy Spirit.

Unfortunately, the Holy Spirit only stays where He is wanted.
If a believer rejects God, for whatever reason, he is no longer under God's protection and has returned to a life of unbelief.
An unbeliever is NOT SAVED.

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[Grailhunter]

Matthew 12:36
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

2nd Peter 3:7
But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

Romans 1:32
Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Romans 6:12
Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

Romans 6:13
Do you not know that when you present yourselves to someone as slaves for obedience, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin resulting in death, or of obedience resulting in righteousness?

1st Corinthians 6:18
Flee sexual immorality. Every other sin that a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body.

2nd Corinthians 13:2
I have already warned those who had been sinning when I was there on my second visit. Now I again warn them and all others, just as I did before, that next time I will not spare them.

2nd Corinthians 12:21
I am afraid that when I come again my God may humiliate me before you, and I may mourn over many of those who have sinned in the past and not repented of the impurity, sexual immorality, and indecent behavior which they have practiced.

1st John 3:8
the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil.1Tm:5:20: Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

James 1:15
Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death.

1st John 3:6
No one who abides in Him sins; no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him.

Romans 6:1 “What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace might increase? May it never be! How shall we who died in sin still live in it? Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, in order that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in the newness of life. For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall be also in the likeness of His resurrection, knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, that our body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin; for he who has died is freed from sin…….10 & 11 “For the death that He died, He did to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. Even so consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Jesus Christ. 14 “For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under the law, but under grace” 18 “Being then free from sin, you become the servants of righteousness.”

Love God and love one another.
Be good and do good.
Johnny Appleseed of Truth

 

[Johann]

Matthew 12:36
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

2nd Peter 3:7
But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

Romans 1:32
Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Romans 6:12
Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

Romans 6:13
Do you not know that when you present yourselves to someone as slaves for obedience, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin resulting in death, or of obedience resulting in righteousness?

1st Corinthians 6:18
Flee sexual immorality. Every other sin that a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body.

2nd Corinthians 13:2
I have already warned those who had been sinning when I was there on my second visit. Now I again warn them and all others, just as I did before, that next time I will not spare them.

2nd Corinthians 12:21
I am afraid that when I come again my God may humiliate me before you, and I may mourn over many of those who have sinned in the past and not repented of the impurity, sexual immorality, and indecent behavior which they have practiced.

1st John 3:8
the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil.1Tm:5:20: Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

James 1:15
Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death.

1st John 3:6
No one who abides in Him sins; no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him.

Romans 6:1 “What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace might increase? May it never be! How shall we who died in sin still live in it? Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, in order that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in the newness of life. For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall be also in the likeness of His resurrection, knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, that our body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin; for he who has died is freed from sin…….10 & 11 “For the death that He died, He did to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. Even so consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Jesus Christ. 14 “For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under the law, but under grace” 18 “Being then free from sin, you become the servants of righteousness.”

Love God and love one another.
Be good and do good.
Johnny Appleseed of Truth

1Jn_3:6. πᾶς ὁ ἐν αὐτᾷ (i.e. Χριστῷ) μένων] refers back to the exhortation in 1Jn_2:27; μένειν, not merely = inesse, expresses close fellowship.
οὐχ ἁμαρτάνει] John hereby states the abiding in Christ and sinning as irreconcilable opposites;







still it is not his meaning that the believing Christian does not sin any more at all, or that he who still sins is not in Christ, for in 1Jn_1:8-10, 1Jn_2:1-2, 1Jn_3:3, he clearly enough expresses that sin still clings to the Christian, and that he therefore needs constantly both the forgiving and saving grace of God and the intercession of Christ, as well as self-purification.
Meyer.

J.

 

[Behold]

Saying something hateful?..

Yes you did., and not just once.
You're very carnal.

 

[Behold]

I pray the newbies take notice of all the scripture @Grailhunter posts.
OTOH you and @Behold provide none.
As usual. Because there is none to back up your strange doctrine.

You are knowingly being dishonest, to say that i dont post verses.
What i dont post is the NUMBER and the Chapter, generally.

 

[Behold]

I pray the newbies take notice of all the scripture @Grailhunter posts.

Grailhunter posts verses that dont even relate to each other, and of course you'd never know it., as you do the same.

 

[Behold]

Please explain to us what SEALED mans in the NT.

It means baptized....when we are baptized, we are sealed with the Holy Spirit.

Water Baptism could not seal an envelope.

The SEALING and the NEW BIRTH< IS CREATED by the Holy Spirit, not by the city water supply.

 

[Behold]

Is a person that comes to reject God willfully rejecting His grace?

.

Does not matter, regarding their Salvation, as they are already "one with God", in Christ.
But, if you reject your Christianity, then you are just a backslider, with dead faith, who is going to suffer even more in this world, but not in the next one.

 

[Behold]

Also, I'd like to see some verses that state we cannot ever forfeit our salvation...
i..

The reason you can't "forfeit" your Salvation, is because your Salvation is not of yourself.
Salvation, is Jesus on the Cross, =This finished sacrifice being APPLIED to you, as your Salvation.
God does that, not you.
So, Salvation is not of you, and that is why you can't change it....

Once Salvation is applied, then this is proof that the only requirement to receive it has been met.
So, trying to keep it, is not a part of Salvation., as God keeps it, due to the fact that He created it and caused it to happen to a BELIEVER.... once and forever.

Once you become a "new Creation" In Christ, your redemption is completed.. till you get the new body, etc.
You dont become a partial creation, or a creation in progress... You have become a "NEW CREATION">.......and you did not cause this, and you can't change it.

 

[Johann]

Is a person that comes to reject God willfully rejecting His grace?

Also, I'd like to see some verses that state we cannot ever forfeit our salvation...
in light of all the verses that state we can, which I'll be happy to state AGAIN.

And I'd like to know WHY we are EXHORTED in the NT to live Godly lives.

Also, maybe an explanation of Jesus' teachings in Matthew 24/24?
Where Jesus tells us we must DO some things....

There's more...

Yes, 1050 Imperatives in the New Testament/Covenant, round about that.
J.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

you have no idea what it means to be "in Christ", as you are trying to get there, as long as you hold unto your faith

I'm already there. Everybody who is presently believing is already there in Christ. To remain in Christ the Bible says to LET the word of God remain in you because IF you do you will remain in the Son the Father and the promise of eternal life (1 John 2:24-25).

 

[Grailhunter]

1Jn_3:6. πᾶς ὁ ἐν αὐτᾷ (i.e. Χριστῷ) μένων] refers back to the exhortation in 1Jn_2:27; μένειν, not merely = inesse, expresses close fellowship.
οὐχ ἁμαρτάνει] John hereby states the abiding in Christ and sinning as irreconcilable opposites;







still it is not his meaning that the believing Christian does not sin any more at all, or that he who still sins is not in Christ, for in 1Jn_1:8-10, 1Jn_2:1-2, 1Jn_3:3, he clearly enough expresses that sin still clings to the Christian, and that he therefore needs constantly both the forgiving and saving grace of God and the intercession of Christ, as well as self-purification.
Meyer.

J.

The answer to the riddle is something referred to as the theological literary style of the time period, ergo the New Testament. Without that understanding you are going to chase your tail and watch people throw scriptures at each other. Thinking they have found the scriptures that supports their beliefs....Which is a tell tale sign that they are studying the scripture in the wrong way and will never get it.

 

[Grailhunter]

The reason you can't "forfeit" your Salvation, is because your Salvation is not of yourself.
Salvation, is Jesus on the Cross, =This finished sacrifice being APPLIED to you, as your Salvation.
God does that, not you.
So, Salvation is not of you, and that is why you can't change it....

Once Salvation is applied, then this is proof that the only requirement to receive it has been met.
So, trying to keep it, is not a part of Salvation., as God keeps it, due to the fact that He created it and caused it to happen to a BELIEVER.... once and forever.

Once you become a "new Creation" In Christ, your redemption is completed.. till you get the new body, etc.
You dont become a partial creation, or a creation in progress... You have become a "NEW CREATION">.......and you did not cause this, and you can't change it.

For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries. Anyone who has set aside the Law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Hebrews 10:26-31

 

[Grailhunter]

Yes you did., and not just once.
You're very carnal.

LOL

 

[Behold]

Yes, 1050 Imperatives in the New Testament/Covenant, round about that.
J.

Thank you for the inspiration for this short Thread.


Too far gone.

 

[Behold]

For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries. Anyone who has set aside the Law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Hebrews 10:26-31

I just wrote this about you.
And here you are proving it.

Too far gone.

 

[Johann]

For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries. Anyone who has set aside the Law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Hebrews 10:26-31

Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
Heb 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.


Lev 4:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a soul shall sin through ignorance against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning things which ought not to be done, and shall do against any of them:
Lev 4:3 If the priest that is anointed do sin according to the sin of the people; then let him bring for his sin, which he hath sinned, a young bullock without blemish unto the LORD for a sin offering.


2Ti 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
2Ti 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
2Ti 2:26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.


2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2Pe 2:2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
2Pe 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
2Pe 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
2Pe 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
2Pe 2:6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
2Pe 2:7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:
2Pe 2:8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;)
2Pe 2:9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
2Pe 2:10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
2Pe 2:11 Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.
2Pe 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
2Pe 2:13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;
2Pe 2:14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
2Pe 2:15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
2Pe 2:16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet.
2Pe 2:17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
2Pe 2:18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
2Pe 2:19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
2Pe 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
2Pe 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
2Pe 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

1Jn 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
1Jn 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
1Jn 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;.......Question.
Is that what you advocate?


but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.


2Pe 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
2Pe 1:5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
2Pe 1:6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
2Pe 1:7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
2Pe 1:8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2Pe 1:9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
2Pe 1:10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
2Pe 1:11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

J.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

You have to be born again, to be saved.
Faith is counted as righteousness, ONE TIME, and God gives you the new birth.
So, He has accepted your faith.
He does not need to keep accepting it, anymore then a real believer needs to keep being born again and again.

Ferris Bueller, I realize that this is all rocket science written in Latin to you, as you have no idea what it means to be "in Christ", as you are trying to get there, as long as you hold unto your faith, while the born again are already there, because God has already accepted our Faith.
Proof?
1.) born again
2.) ""Seated in heavenly places in Christ""
3.) "As Jesus is, so are the born again"
4.) "Heirs of God"
5.)"Joint heirs with Jesus."

Do you see all that?
Not yet. ??
However, That is what has happened to the born agian, not because we try to keep believing, but because God has already accepted the Faith of a Believer.

The Believer, has COMPLETED the work of God........>"The work of God is that you believe in Jesus, whom God Sent".
When you do, God gives you a new birth and from then on, God is faithful to complete your salvation, not you.
Philippians 1:6​

You didn't even address the content of my post. Here it is again.
How can you just decide Paul is wrong about the condition for being presently saved?
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Yes, you do have to keep believing in order to be saved:

"2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain." 1 Corinthians 15:2
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And here's the context so you won't deceive anybody into thinking "you have believed in vain" means "you didn't really believe in the first place"...

14And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is worthless, and so is your faith.
17And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins.
Hebrews 15:14-17​

I mean, if you want to say Paul is wrong, you have that privilege, but you should at least make it clear that you are saying Paul is wrong.