Once Saved, Always Saved?

[Ferris Bueller]

Your own preaching is a person can Become Saved and then Become NOT Saved....

Why not inform us each day...
OF YOUR TERRIBLE DAILY HAPHAZARD Schedule?

Maybe you could make a personal calendar on your home page...So everyone would know on any particular day, “IF” you ARE their Friend or Foe...

* Your personal daily Calendar....Saved today...the next day your Salvation undone..Saved the next day...the next day your Salvation undone....Saved the next day...the next day your Salvation undone....

* Maybe you could then make POSTS ABOUT YOURSELF, “WHY” you repeatedly “receive” Salvation and “WHY” you repeatedly “have your Salvation undone”...

* Maybe you would become “famous” as a CASE STUDY for Biblical scholars!

In all fairness, NOT-OSAS does not mean you can continually get saved and unsaved. Hebrews 6:4-6 shows that God does not allow that. Of course, now the argument begins over whether that passage is referring to saved or unsaved people. I say we just concentrate on making sure we are really in the faith for it to not even matter. Saved people don't have to concern themselves about whether or not they can lose salvation if they concentrate on what is clear in the Bible, and that is to keep believing. Hold fast the word of the gospel.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Of course YOU can Forsake God.

And the NEW SUPER DUPER OSAS says you remain saved even if you forsake God. Which we can quickly see from scripture simply is not true:

"if we deny Him, He will also deny us;13if we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself." 2 Timothy 2:12-1
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You can be faithless in your Christian life. You know, stupidly cheat on your taxes out of fear, look too long at your neighbor's wife, etc., all the while you are believing that Jesus is the payment for your sins, but what you can not do is point blank turn away from God in unbelief. He will forsake you if you do that. Now the argument can start over if it's actually possible for a real believer to go back to unbelief, lol.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

*chanting* we want the new OSAS!! We want the new OSAS!!!!

You should convert over to the NEW OSAS. You're saved in that theology. Hey, if you can't be saved in one theology why not switch over to one in which you can be, right?

 

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It's called Hypergrace theology. Sometimes called Freegrace theology. BB1953 calls it Super, Duper Grace or something like that, lol. I don't know who's responsible for setting the church on fire with it, but two names I know off hand are Andrew Farley, and...and....lol the name escaped me as soon as I went to grasp for it. Don't worry. BB1953 will fill in the blanks. Ah! Les Feldick! That's the other name. There are others. But anyway, I've been amazed at how many people don't recognize it for how different and contrary it is to Calvin's OSAS.

Once a person IS saved, they ARE saved forever, has always Been a Scriptural teaching.
Calvin didn’t INVENT the Truth. Seems more so he is accredited with a slogan that, that was reduced to an acronym, without changing the Truth revealed in Scripture.

IF some men, as you name “Les Feldick”, (whom I have never heard of) is being accredited with CHANGING a Scriptural Truth...What exactly is “this” supposed “new” truth? And hijacking an other established TRUTH, “OSAS”, seem to me as LOW DOWN and UNDERHANDED. Still don’t know what his “supposed NEW OSAS IS”...
If “Les Feldick” has some NEW TRUTH...is he too ignorant to establish his own slogan or acronym?

Sort of reminds me of same sex couples hijacking the TERM MARRIAGE, which applies to only OPPOSITE genders...

Or the World Health Organization hijacking the TERM VACCINATION, which applies to only injections that PREVENT diseases...

Seems we are witnessing...
Rom 1:
[25] Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

 

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And the NEW SUPER DUPER OSAS says you remain saved even if you forsake God.

WHHHHAT? LOL Almost spit my coffee out in Laughter at such an asinine notion.

Seriously?? People are falling for that Nonsense?

 

[Ferris Bueller]

IF some men, as you name “Les Feldick”, (whom I have never heard of) is being accredited with CHANGING a Scriptural Truth.

I don't think he personally invented it. I'm pretty sure he's just a purveyor of it.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

WHHHHAT? LOL Almost spit my coffee out in Laughter at such an asinine notion.

Seriously?? People are falling for that Nonsense?

Yes, they are. I know, it's crazy. Unbelievers are lovin' it.

 

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@Ferris Bueller -
I don’t find anything on the internet about “a New OSAS”.
I don’t find anything on the internet about “Les Feldick”, saying a new OSAS, of saying, men can be Saved and forsake God.

Have any links?

 

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In all fairness, NOT-OSAS does not mean you can continually get saved and unsaved.

In all fairness, Scripture does not teach one receives Salvation and then their Salvation is removed from them...
The calendar idea, would only reveal what he says, not others.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Whom did I attack? NOBODY! I attack OSAS. Stop lying!

Who is lying?

You claim OSAS people attack NON OSAS people.

yet here you are admitting you are doing the same

Again, Thats the defenition of a hypocrite

 

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@kcnalp
@etal

Anyone aside from kcnalp Confused, Wondering, Unknowing of:
WHO “them, they, them”...In John 10:28 ARE?

John 10:28
“And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.”

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Maybe I'm trying to save some OSASers for Hell fire.

Remember folks. He said he is not judging.

Written to Christians:
Romans 11:22 (NKJV)
22 Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off.

written to the GENTILE CHURCH. not individual believers.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

This guy is the one that I said must be blind ......I have provided many, many verses going back so far I can’t even remember....he just keeps parroting his insipid remarks—- “ No OSAS Scripture! No OSAS Scripture!” In spite of what he is shown...
I’m done with him.....

He is to busy attacking a term, he can't see beyond what he hates..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Your own preaching is a person can Become Saved and then Become NOT Saved....

Why not inform us each day...
OF YOUR TERRIBLE DAILY HAPHAZARD Schedule?

Maybe you could make a personal calendar on your home page...So everyone would know on any particular day, “IF” you ARE their Friend or Foe...

* Your personal daily Calendar....Saved today...the next day your Salvation undone..Saved the next day...the next day your Salvation undone....Saved the next day...the next day your Salvation undone....

* Maybe you could then make POSTS ABOUT YOURSELF, “WHY” you repeatedly “receive” Salvation and “WHY” you repeatedly “have your Salvation undone”...

* Maybe you would become “famous” as a CASE STUDY for Biblical scholars!

he is too busy attacking people who rely on Christ for salvation to even see his own sin.

A modern day pharisee at its best

 

[Eternally Grateful]

WHHHHAT? LOL Almost spit my coffee out in Laughter at such an asinine notion.

Seriously?? People are falling for that Nonsense?

what was the notion. I must have the person on ignore. I can't see who you are talking to

 

[praise_yeshua]

Never said any such thing.

If you haven't ceased from sin, what makes you believe you can demand others serve Christ without sin?

 

[praise_yeshua]

You're referring to the witness of the Spirit. Which is fine, but not if it is not also in conjunction with the witness of the work of the Spirit in your life. For even cultists will claim they have the witness of the Spirit. So it's only by one's behavior as the Lord changes a person that a person can ultimately have assurance that they are truly in the faith and are saved.

No single human being answers to your approval. Your assessment of a proper working faith is just that YOUR assessment. You are not in an authoritative position to demand anything from anyone. Yet, that is exactly what you are doing. You are demanding that others meet YOUR standard.

People can't prove they're saved to another human being. I've been told many times in my life that I was apostate because of what I said I believed. Yet, God has continued to love me. To prosper me beyond anything I've ever deserved. This means nothing to "mockers". Nothing. They killed the Lord Jesus as a sinner...... the perfect loving Son of God. They KILLED HIM.... as a SINNER.....

Yet, here you are. Demanding service to men to find approval from God. That is oxymoron.

That would be a testimony to the security of salvation in the ministry of Christ, not the assurance that you actually possess the security of Christ's ministry. Simply knowing that Christ's ministry is steadfast and sure does not give a person the assurance that they actually have that ministry applied to them in salvation. The security of salvation comes from the sureness of Christ's ministry, as compared to the ministry of the Levites which was not. Assurance of salvation, on the other hand, meaning you have the assurance that Christ's ministry really is applied to your life in salvation, comes from seeing the ever-increasing image of Christ in you as you grow and mature in Christ. The visible outcome of the Spirit in your life is the evidence that you do indeed have the Spirit inside of you in a genuine salvation.

So why did humanity share in the murder of Jesus Christ? Do you believe if you'd had been there that day at Calvary.....

YOU wouldn't have been calling for His death?

 

[amadeus]

In all fairness, NOT-OSAS does not mean you can continually get saved and unsaved. Hebrews 6:4-6 shows that God does not allow that. Of course, now the argument begins over whether that passage is referring to saved or unsaved people. I say we just concentrate on making sure we are really in the faith for it to not even matter. Saved people don't have to concern themselves about whether or not they can lose salvation if they concentrate on what is clear in the Bible, and that is to keep believing. Hold fast the word of the gospel.

Amen!
What a mighty God we serve!

 

[marks]

I'd have to look at the list of members to remember the others.

Do that, then.

And what is different about you when you are born again? (the rebirth of the spirit, that is)

Much love!

 

[marks]

OSAS is a license to sin issued by Satan.

Satan doesn't have that authority.

Much love!