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Freedom. That's a gift that we exercise, or not. Jesus showed us what it looks like. Paradox surrounds God. At Gethsemane Jesus behavior doesn't fit what we think of as being free. But freedom is the ability to do what ought to be done.
That was the agony in the garden
The greatest act of freedom. He wouldn't have ever died if we didn't kill Him. He chose death for us. We don't have that choice to make.

he took all our sins upon himself!
She’s his precious blood!

precious blood of Jesus, save us!
 

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1) If you keep the old sabbath have you fallen from grace per Gal 5:4

2) not by faith alone but faith and baptism Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38

Correct, therefore:
If you add your works(Mary worship/prayers, statues, black box confessions, etc) to the Finished Work of Christ (Sabbath REST) you have fallen from Grace and will be rejected by God.
 

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“Saint of God” and article of faith in the apologetics forum

here’s a copy cat of yours!

acts 2:38 skipper

you better jump on it, he’s stealing your thunder!
 

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If all the Christians were gone but the bibles are left.
Would the bible be able to communicate the faith to a world that doesn't know Him.

Would faith in Jesus survive?


If all the bibles in the world disappeared but Christians are still here.

Would it survive?

I remember a testimony of a Mormon, who was reading the Book of Mormon in the basement of BYU. He was in Mosiah 14 (Which contains Isaiah 53 from the Bible). HE was convicted of his SIN, and God gifted him with saving faith, and he became a born-again Christian. FAITH (Biblical FAITH) is always Gifted, and The Holy SPirit is ever present in the world. IF Christianity depended on Man's wisdom, academic theology, and education in seminaries, it would have gone away centuries ago.
 
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Great post!



God does not reveal His truth in a vacuum!

God does not set His true adrift on a sea of spiritual anarchy!

God sets His truth in His church, in the possession of His apostles to safeguard, to ensure it is not added to, or taken away from, or changed in any way!

And to teach the same truth to all nations and all ages!

Verified by scripture:

Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Matt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost!

Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints!

2 Thessalonians 2:15
Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness!
(all scripture not 66 books alone)

Must be instructed in the faith:

Lk 1:4 That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed.

Matt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations…

Jn 29:21-23 as the father sent me, so I send you. (Same mission, power, and authority to teach all nations)

Lk 10:16 He who hears you, (His apostles) hear me.

Jn 13:20 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

Jn 8:32 You (the apostles) shall know the truth; and the truth shall make you free.

Jn 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
(His apostles)
 

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Correct, therefore:
If you add your works(Mary worship/prayers, statues, black box confessions, etc) to the Finished Work of Christ (Sabbath REST) you have fallen from Grace and will be rejected by God.

where in scripture is this “finished work of Christ”

Also give me a definition of it please!

“brown box confessions are ok”?

you don’t think a priest has authority to forgive sin, to absolve?

can you be saved without a priest?
 

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I remember a testimony of a Mormon, who was reading the Book of Mormon in the basement of BYU. He was in Mosiah 14 (Which contains Isaiah 53 from the Bible). HE was convicted of his SIN, and God gifted him with saving faith, and he became a born-again Christian. FAITH (Biblical FAITH) is always Gifted, and The Holy SPirit is ever present in the world. IF Christianity depended on Man's wisdom, academic theology, and education in seminaries, it would have gone away centuries ago.

so you think anyway!

Not without Christian baptism
 

theefaith

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I remember a testimony of a Mormon, who was reading the Book of Mormon in the basement of BYU. He was in Mosiah 14 (Which contains Isaiah 53 from the Bible). HE was convicted of his SIN, and God gifted him with saving faith, and he became a born-again Christian. FAITH (Biblical FAITH) is always Gifted, and The Holy SPirit is ever present in the world. IF Christianity depended on Man's wisdom, academic theology, and education in seminaries, it would have gone away centuries ago.

Saved? No

redeemed yes but all men are redeemed by the death of christ


Matt 24:13 endures to the end.

Mark 13:13
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Rev 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

Heb 3:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;

Heb 6:11 And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end:

1. Romans 11:22 – God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness

2. Colossians 1:21-23 – holy and blameless, if you continue in the faith"

3. The race of faith: the example of Paul

4. Hebrews 12:22-25: "we shall not escape if we turn away from Him"

5. Hebrews 4:1-3, 9-12: "strive to enter the rest of God"

6.Hebrews 6:4-9 – those who became partakers of the holy spirit and fell away

7. Hebrews 10:23-29, 35-39: "if we sin willfully", "if anyone draws back".

8. Matthew 24:13: He that endures to the end, the same shall be saved

9. Hebrews 3:4-6: Holding fast our confidence firm until the end

10. Matthew 24:13: "But the one who endures to the end will be saved"

11. 1 John 2:24-25 – "if what you heard from the beginning abides in you"

12. 2 John 8-9 : to "everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ

13. 2 Peter 1:5-11 : "Make every effort to supplement your faith"

14. Philippians 2:12-16: "work out your salvation with fear and trembling"

15. 1 Timothy 6:10-16: the love of money

16. Galatians 5:2-4 "Severed from Christ"

17. 2 Timothy 2:11-13: "if we deny him, he will also deny us"

18. James 5:19-20: the wandered brother

19. Some will abandon the faith

20. 1 Timothy 5:8: "he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever"

22. The real family of Jesus: "Those who hear the Word of God and do it"

23. 1 Corinthians 5:5: "so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord"

24. Peter 2: "It would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness"

25. Jude: "Turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness" - a much relevant warning

26. 1 Cor. 9:27 ....Lest I myself might become a castaway

Romans 13:11
And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

So salvation by “faith alone” is completely false and impossible!
 

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he took all our sins upon himself!
She’s his precious blood!

precious blood of Jesus, save us!

Whom are you referring to when you write "She’s his precious blood!"
What do you mean by "precious blood of Jesus, save us!"? Are you praying to blood? Do you think that blood saves us, not God?
 

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where in scripture is this “finished work of Christ”

Also give me a definition of it please!

“brown box confessions are ok”?

you don’t think a priest has authority to forgive sin, to absolve?

can you be saved without a priest?

#1 No one can be saved without the Absolution of sins and Blessing from the High Priest = Jesus the Christ

#2. You have a sinful man, dressed in the color of death = black, in a brown box, as your priest

#3 My Priest has Highest Authority = Hebrews 4:14
Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession

 

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Whom are you referring to when you write "She’s his precious blood!"
What do you mean by "precious blood of Jesus, save us!"? Are you praying to blood? Do you think that blood saves us, not God?

typo
Shed his blood

got some reason my spellcheck changes shed to she’s
 

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So when Jesus said to the thief on the cross that he would be in Paradise without being baptized, He was mistaken?

wake up man I’ve explained it a thousand times

baptism is a requirement of the new covenant
The outward sign of initiation
Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38 acts 2:38 1 pet 3:20-21 etc. etc. etc.

The covenant is not in effect until the death of Christ!

heb 9:16-17
 

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I remember a testimony of a Mormon, who was reading the Book of Mormon in the basement of BYU. He was in Mosiah 14 (Which contains Isaiah 53 from the Bible). HE was convicted of his SIN, and God gifted him with saving faith, and he became a born-again Christian. FAITH (Biblical FAITH) is always Gifted, and The Holy SPirit is ever present in the world. IF Christianity depended on Man's wisdom, academic theology, and education in seminaries, it would have gone away centuries ago.

DIY religion!

no baptism no church no priest required!
 

David in NJ

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DIY religion!

no baptism no church no priest required!

I believe in DIY religion = Do It Yeshua
I looked, but there was no one to help,
And I wondered
That there was no one to uphold;
Therefore My own Arm brought Salvation for Me;
 

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#1 No one can be saved without the Absolution of sins and Blessing from the High Priest = Jesus the Christ

#2. You have a sinful man, dressed in the color of death = black, in a brown box, as your priest

#3 My Priest has Highest Authority = Hebrews 4:14
Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession

yes black represents the death of Christ

you did not answer my question
 

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I remember a testimony of a Mormon, who was reading the Book of Mormon in the basement of BYU. He was in Mosiah 14 (Which contains Isaiah 53 from the Bible). HE was convicted of his SIN, and God gifted him with saving faith, and he became a born-again Christian. FAITH (Biblical FAITH) is always Gifted, and The Holy SPirit is ever present in the world. IF Christianity depended on Man's wisdom, academic theology, and education in seminaries, it would have gone away centuries ago.
Note: this man, was already a disciple of Christ and born again before this moment. Member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (nicknamed "Mormons") strive to follow Christ, all of our Lord & Savior. He speaks to all that seek Him, not restricted by anything.
 

David in NJ

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yes black represents the death of Christ

you did not answer my question

I cannot find anywhere in scripture where the color 'black' is associated with the death of Christ.

But we do see the color Red associated with His death = His Blood shed for us upon the Cross

The way i see it - RCC priests are dressed in black because they are in darkness