Bible alone!

[amigo de christo]

you don’t think she is sinless?
The church always believed it and always taught it!

gen 3:15 enmity total war none of Satan’s works are in her

all fair Song of Soloman 4:7

Sirach 24:24
I am the mother of fair love, and offear, and of knowledge, and of holy hope.

lk 1:28 full of grace
Blessed
The Lord is with thee

rev 12:1 clothed with the sun
Immaculate purity

Highly favored . AMEN , pray to her , NO .
She will be called blessed by all generations . AMEN . Pray to her NO .
The LORD is with us the lambs . what do you think IMMANUEL means . GOD WITH US .
Stop seeing things through the lens of the CC and things will get clear . Just read the bible for yourself .

 

[theefaith]

And that in no way points us to the CC . The JW , even mormon can quoate the same thing
and try and point to their church as the one true church .
I will tell them the very same thing i tell you . COME YE OUT from amongst them .
Read the bible through the lens of the Holy Ghost and not the lens of your religion .
It would really open your eyes my friend .

one God
one Christ
One savior
One church
One faith

 

[theefaith]

Sirach i would not read .
as for the rest , isnt it amazing how thee faith tries to make the verses say something they never once said .
As i said , HE sees scriptures , THROUGH the lens of the CC . Hurry thee faith , get in that bible
and pray TO GOD , IN JESUS name and start learning for yourself .

where do you buy them Protestant colored glasses?

 

[amigo de christo]

one God
one Christ
One savior
One church
One faith

Very true , sadly the CC knows nothing of this . even parrots can quoate sounds .
But thanks for the reminder anyway . As i said you have learned the scrips through the lens of the CC .
GO ye and enter into that bible and read for YOURSELF and pray ONLY TO GOD in JESUS name .
There is only ONE GOD ONE CHRIST ONE CHURCH ONE FAITH ONE BAPTISM and etc .
Its just the CC teaches deadly doctrines and mixes things up unto their own destruction .
ANd thee faith , I DONT want your destruction nor perdtion . So open bible and start learning .

 

[theefaith]

Highly favored . AMEN , pray to her , NO .
She will be called blessed by all generations . AMEN . Pray to her NO .
The LORD is with us the lambs . what do you think IMMANUEL means . GOD WITH US .
Stop seeing things through the lens of the CC and things will get clear . Just read the bible for yourself .

all generations call me blessed!
Why?

 

[amigo de christo]

where do you buy them Protestant colored glasses?

They aint protestant colored . I warn out against many of those men too .
THEY ARE HOLY SPIRIT EYE Wear my friend . Now most all of christendom is in dire and deadly danger .
We have us a massive falling away going on , only most think its love and unity and lets be one again .
Folks are flocking under what has long been planned out . They destroyed many a church from within
Get back in that bible , hurry and i will be praying for you . protestant colored glasses , NOPE , HS glasses my friend .
Its why i wont just sit under those who teach falsehoods . GOD has kept me safe and in the scriptures
to actually learn WHAT THE ONE TRUE CHRIST and the TRUE CHURCH did teach . A hint
the CC STRAYED BIG TIME FROM IT and you cant see this . Now i am trying and trying to help you .
DO you see me pointing to the protestant realm . NOPE , nor to the CC and my goodness not the MORMON one either .
THE One true CHURCH is alive and well my friend and they have come out from amongst those who teach falsehoods
and others will as well . JESUS sheep hear HIS VOICE . HURRY thee faith , HURRY and i will be praying for you .

 

[amigo de christo]

all generations call me blessed!
Why?

Cause SHE IS THE MOTHER OF OUR GLORIOUS LORD JESUS CHRIST . That is the why .
MARY is blessed above all woman . BUT WE ARE NOT TO PRAY TO HER . figure that out and fast cause its blasphemy .

 

[theefaith]

Cause SHE IS THE MOTHER OF OUR GLORIOUS LORD JESUS CHRIST . That is the why .
MARY is blessed above all woman . BUT WE ARE NOT TO PRAY TO HER . figure that out and fast cause its blasphemy .

Mother of our salvation our advocate

Blessing from God thru Mary!

All graces come to us they Mary, from God by the merits (blood) of Christ!
Jn 1:16
Of His fullness we have all received, grace for grace!

Salvation Lk 1:30
Consented to our salvation Lk 1:38
Mother of Christ Matt 1:16
Mother of the word Jn 1:1
Mother of our savior Matt 1:21
Mother of our salvation Lk 2:30
Our mother Jn 19:26-27

Elizabeth filled with the Holy Spirit!

Lk 1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:

John sanctified in the womb!

Lk 1:15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.

Lk 1:44 For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.

Zacharias is filled with the Holy Spirit and prophecy!

Lk 1:67 And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying,

The wedding couple have wine and not shame!

Jn 2: 10 And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.

The disciples are supplied with faith, hope, and charity!

11 This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him.

All these blessings from God because of Mary most holy!

A good tree!

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation! Matt 1:21 Lk 2:30 Jesus is our salvation! This reflects the immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus!
Lk 1:30 Mary found our salvation!
Lk 1:38 consented to our salvation!

A good tree (immaculate conception) Lk 1:49 God has done this and it is marvelous in our eyes!

Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Matt 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

A sinner would be an evil tree with evil fruit, but the fruit of Mary is salvation!

Mary brings in the good fruits of our redemption and salvation!

So Mary CANNOT be a sinner or a bad tree!

 

[amigo de christo]

Mother of our salvation our advocate

Blessing from God thru Mary!

All graces come to us they Mary, from God by the merits (blood) of Christ!
Jn 1:16
Of His fullness we have all received, grace for grace!

Salvation Lk 1:30
Consented to our salvation Lk 1:38
Mother of Christ Matt 1:16
Mother of the word Jn 1:1
Mother of our savior Matt 1:21
Mother of our salvation Lk 2:30
Our mother Jn 19:26-27

Elizabeth filled with the Holy Spirit!

Lk 1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:

John sanctified in the womb!

Lk 1:15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.

Lk 1:44 For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.

Zacharias is filled with the Holy Spirit and prophecy!

Lk 1:67 And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying,

The wedding couple have wine and not shame!

Jn 2: 10 And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.

The disciples are supplied with faith, hope, and charity!

11 This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him.

All these blessings from God because of Mary most holy!

A good tree!

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation! Matt 1:21 Lk 2:30 Jesus is our salvation! This reflects the immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus!
Lk 1:30 Mary found our salvation!
Lk 1:38 consented to our salvation!

A good tree (immaculate conception) Lk 1:49 God has done this and it is marvelous in our eyes!

Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Matt 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

A sinner would be an evil tree with evil fruit, but the fruit of Mary is salvation!

Mary brings in the good fruits of our redemption and salvation!

So Mary CANNOT be a sinner or a bad tree!

Mary did not FIND our salvation . The CC is twisting things as they usually do .
And it is blasphemous to pray to her , to saints and to angels . Pray to GOD in JESUS name .
We cant exalt folks out of measure . The CC is dangerous my friend . And like any other
place , just cause it can get some things right dont make it right . Even a broke clock is right twice a day my friend .
You need to just return to the scriptures and learn for yourself . Mary aint the most holy either .
Again we got problems .

 

[theefaith]

Mary did not FIND our salvation . The CC is twisting things as they usually do .
And it is blasphemous to pray to her , to saints and to angels . Pray to GOD in JESUS name .
We cant exalt folks out of measure . The CC is dangerous my friend . And like any other
place , just cause it can get some things right dont make it right . Even a broke clock is right twice a day my friend .
You need to just return to the scriptures and learn for yourself . Mary aint the most holy either .
Again we got problems .

Lk 1:30 Mary found favor with God?

what favor?

Matt 1:21 save from sins

salvation is the favor she found

 

[theefaith]

The Apostles Creed!

I believe in one God, the Father almighty,
creator of heaven and earth.
And in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord, who was conceived by the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. He suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried; he descended to hell. The third day he rose again from the dead. He ascended to heaven and is seated at the right hand of God the Father almighty. From there he will come to judge the living and the dead. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting. Amen.

Acts 2;42

 

[theefaith]

You said God is in Christ
Refer to

2 Corinthians 5:19
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

question

does this extend to His church
To his apostles

is Christ in his apostles also in ministry, mission, power, and authority?

the same ministry, mission, power and authority as Christ?

 

[Truther]

A.) In the beginning Elohim(God) created the heavens and the earth. 2The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of Elohim(God) was hovering over the face of the waters.
3Then Elohim(God) said,............."Let US make man in OUR image according to OUR likeness" = 3x

B.)In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

C.) Matt 3:16 - 3 Persons of Elohim = As soon as Jesus was baptized, He went up out of the water. Suddenly the heavens were opened, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and resting on Him. And a voice from heaven said, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased!”

D.) The Father, Son Holy Spirit are inseparable and are revealed to us from Genesis to Revelation = John 10:26-30
Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father’s name, they bear witness of Me. 26But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you. 27My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.
28And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand.
29My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand.
30I and My Father are one.”

E.) The Son is Elohim with Elohim Father and Elohim Holy Spirit
And understand that I am He.
Before Me there was no God formed,
Nor shall there be after Me.
I, even I, am the Lord,
And besides Me there is no savior. - Isaiah 43

F.) Listen = “Listen to Me, O Jacob, And Israel, My called: I am He, I am the First, I am also the Last." - Isaiah 48:12-13

G.) God = Elohim
Rev 1:8 = Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.
“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End."

Rev 22:13 = And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”

Again, did the 3rd person have anything to do with creating the world or did the other 2 do it all.

 

[Truther]

That makes it acceptable not required!
It don’t say this is the only way!

divinity of Jesus
Only God can be all knowing and therefore the just judge!

Final judgement by Jesus Christ the eternal God!

I see now, the Catholics teach we do not have to go down into the water and come up out of the water as Phillip taught.

The RCC is powerful.

 

[Truther]

Matt 24:31 his angels
Jn 1:51 his angels

Again, where does scripture say "God the son".

 

[Truther]

No there not under apostolic authority
And scripture demands the teaching authority of the apostles

Jesus Christ extends his mission, power, and authority to His church of His apostles!

Even His judging!
Matt 19:28
His teaching authority!
Matt 28:19 and Jn 20:21
His power to forgive sins!
Jn 20:23
His being the light of the world!
Matt 5:14
His ministry of reconciliation!
2 cor 5:18
Apart from me you can do nothing. Jn 15:5
So the church is subject to Christ!
Eph 5:24

Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Matt 18:17 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20 acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15

The Vatican is modern authority?

The Vatican succeeds scripture with "holy rhetoric"?

Why can't the Mormons do the same.

Both groups are equally 99% inaccurate.

 

[Truther]

Not the RCC.

The RCC is not Apostolic ministry, but imposter ministry.

 

[theefaith]

[QUOTE="Truther, post: 1259047, member:


Now say Jesus is not divine!

Isa. 9:6-7 6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.

Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

 

[David in NJ]

Again, did the 3rd person have anything to do with creating the world or did the other 2 do it all.

Where in Scripture do you see the Truth?

 

[theefaith]

Again, did the 3rd person have anything to do with creating the world or did the other 2 do it all.

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

pre-Figures baptism