Is The Sheep/Goat Judgement Used, To Enter A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth?

[Truth7t7]

Matthew 25:31-46 is nothing more than a "Parable" to "Herdsmen" using sheep/goats in explanation of the Great White Throne judgement seen in Revelation 20:11-15

Yes Matthew 25:46 clearly shows this "final judgement", eternal life, eternal punishment, (The End) with no Millennial Kingdom on this earth following as many claim

Matthew 25:46KJV
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

 

[Episkopos]

Matthew 25:31-46 is nothing more than a "Parable" to "Herdsmen" using sheep/goats in explanation of the Great White Throne judgement seen in Revelation 20:11-15

Yes Matthew 25:46 clearly shows this "final judgement", eternal life, eternal punishment, (The End) with no Millennial Kingdom on this earth following as many claim

Matthew 25:46KJV
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Actually the GWT judgment comes AFTER the Millenium. At that time the nations will be judged according to their works. Those who were righteous...who worked righteousness among the nations...will be greeted by the Lord to inhabit the nations in the eternal kingdom of God. This is NOT a judgment regarding the saints. The saints ARE the brethren of Christ whom the righteous cared for.

 

[Truth7t7]

Actually the GWT judgment comes AFTER the Millenium. At that time the nations will be judged according to their works. Those who were righteous...who worked righteousness among the nations...will be greeted by the Lord to inhabit the nations in the eternal kingdom of God. This is NOT a judgment regarding the saints. The saints ARE the brethren of Christ whom the righteous cared for.

Actually there wont be a Millennium

Jesus returns in fire and final judgement, dissolving this earth by fire (The End)

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Lol. ABC! And that concludes the alphabet. The end!

 

[GISMYS_7]

Actually there wont be a Millennium

Jesus returns in fire and final judgement, dissolving this earth by fire (The End)

Revelation 20:6 “Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death [lake of fire] has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.”

 

[Jay Ross]

^^^^ "Is The Sheep/Goat Judgement Used, To Enter A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth?"

The short answer is, "NO." The long answer is that it occurs after the initial separation of one flock from the other based on whether or not the flock calls Jesus/God "Lord." The separated flock that does not call Jesus/God lord are immediately dispatched into the lake of fire.

The flock that calls Jesus/God, "Lord," are then separated into those that are God's "sheep," and those that are "goats." (Ezekiel 34:17: - 'And as for you, O My flock, thus says the Lord God: "Behold, I shall judge between sheep and sheep, between rams and goats." )

Jesus tells us in the Parable of the separation of the Sheep from the Goats, that He will separate those who call Jesus/God, "Lord," into those whose heart is likened unto God's heart for the disadvantaged among them, i.e. the sheep, and those whose heart is likened to a Grecian understanding of what is required to be judged as "righteous," i.e. the goats.

This parable clarifies what Jesus meant in in thee passages: -

Matt 7:21-27: - I Never Knew You​

(Luke 6:46; 13:26,27)

21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' 23 And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'

Build on the Rock
(Luke 6:47-49)

24 "Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock: 25 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock.

26 "But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand: 27 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall."

Luke 13:22-30: - 22 And He went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem. 23 Then one said to Him, "Lord, are there few who are saved?"

And He said to them, 24 "Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able. 25 When once the Master of the house has risen up and shut the door, and you begin to stand outside and knock at the door, saying, 'Lord, Lord, open for us,' and He will answer and say to you, 'I do not know you, where you are from,' 26 then you will begin to say, 'We ate and drank in Your presence, and You taught in our streets.' 27 But He will say, 'I tell you I do not know you, where you are from. Depart from Me, all you workers of iniquity.' 28 There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, and yourselves thrust out. 29 They will come from the east and the west, from the north and the south, and sit down in the kingdom of God. 30 And indeed there are last who will be first, and there are first who will be last."

Luke 6:46-49: - Build on the Rock
(Matt 7:21-27)

46 "But why do you call Me 'Lord, Lord,' and not do the things which I say? 47 Whoever comes to Me, and hears My sayings and does them, I will show you whom he is like: 48 He is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid the foundation on the rock. And when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently against that house, and could not shake it, for it was founded on the rock. 49 But he who heard and did nothing is like a man who built a house on the earth without a foundation, against which the stream beat vehemently; and immediately it fell. And the ruin of that house was great." ​

Shalom

 

[Episkopos]

Actually there wont be a Millennium

Jesus returns in fire and final judgement, dissolving this earth by fire (The End)

Judgment comes first to the house of God...the saints and the filthy....honour and dishonour. The Bible (not you) then says a thousand years pass by with Jesus and the saints ruling over the earth. The devil and his demons are locked up during that time..as the Bible says. Then comes the rebellion..and the devil cast into the lake of fire.

The nations are not judged at the same time as the saints. The saints learn to rule with Christ during the Millennium. THEN, the nations are judged.

There are 2 resurrections. Any other teaching has NO biblical support.

 

[Truth7t7]

Judgment comes first to the house of God...the saints and the filthy....honour and dishonour. The Bible (not you) then says a thousand years pass by with Jesus and the saints ruling over the earth. The devil and his demons are locked up during that time..as the Bible says. Then comes the rebellion..and the devil cast into the lake of fire.

The nations are not judged at the same time as the saints. The saints learn to rule with Christ during the Millennium. THEN, the nations are judged.

There are 2 resurrections. Any other teaching has NO biblical support.

Two paragraphs in claims with no scripture in support, where is this Millennium found in scripture?

 

[Jay Ross]

Judgment comes first to the house of God...the saints and the filthy....honour and dishonour. The Bible (not you) then says a thousand years pass by with Jesus and the saints ruling over the earth. The devil and his demons are locked up during that time..as the Bible says. Then comes the rebellion..and the devil cast into the lake of fire.

The nations are not judged at the same time as the saints. The saints learn to rule with Christ during the Millennium. THEN, the nations are judged.

There are 2 resurrections. Any other teaching has NO biblical support.

Ah! You have also forgotten that Jesus tells us that Satan will have his Good and Faithful servants operating on the face of the earth while he is imprisoned in the Bottomless pit for a 1,000 years.

As for claiming that the scriptures state for "a thousand years pass by, with Jesus and the saints ruling over the earth." This is incorrect. Can you quote the actual scriptures that state this explicitly.

Oh well, each to his own understanding.

 

[Truth7t7]

Ah! You have also forgotten that Jesus tells us that Satan will have his Good and Faithful servants operating on the face of the earth while he is imprisoned in the Bottomless pit for a 1,000 years.

As for claiming that the scriptures state for "a thousand years pass by, with Jesus and the saints ruling over the earth." This is incorrect. Can you quote the actual scriptures that state this explicitly.

Oh well, each to his own understanding.

Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle

The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming

If A Tribulation Saint Were To Die One Day Before The Second Coming, He Enters Into The Non-Literal 1,000 Year Reign

Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World

Satan Is Presently Bound As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.

Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle

(Revelation) 20:1-9KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

(Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event

(Revelation) 16:12-17KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

 

[Episkopos]

Two paragraphs in claims with no scripture in support, where is this Millennium found in scripture?

A Millenium means 1,000 years.

Rev. 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.




Hidden within the above verses there is mention of a thousand year reign of the saints...can you locate those cleverly hidden references? There is also a mention of there being more than one resurrection...by calling the first one...the fist resurrection. can you locate those references in the above verses?

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Oh my gosh, I feel slightly bad for laughing so hard but…when you’re speaking with grown men and this happens it’s like…oh gosh sakes! Do they read Old Yeller and insist it’s a story about a cat…?!

 

[Truth7t7]

A Millenium means 1,000 years.

Rev. 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.




Hidden within the above verses there is mention of a thousand year reign of the saints...can you locate those cleverly hidden references? There is also a mention of there being more than one resurrection...by calling the first one...the fist resurrection. can you locate those references in the above verses?

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth As Many Claim

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

[Truth7t7]

Oh my gosh, I feel slightly bad for laughing so hard but…when you’re speaking with grown men and this happens it’s like…oh gosh sakes! Do they read Old Yeller and insist it’s a story about a cat…?!

Greatly would appreciate you giving quotation of who you are responding to, this is common courtesy, this will remove confusion

Thanks!

 

[stunnedbygrace]

I’m pretty certain it wouldn’t remove confusion…

 

[Episkopos]

I’m pretty certain it wouldn’t remove confusion…

Oh my, LOL :) <><

 

[Truth7t7]

I’m pretty certain it wouldn’t remove confusion…

Greatly would appreciate you giving quotation of who you are responding to, this is common courtesy, this will remove confusion

Thanks!

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Oh look, there’s an echo in here!

 

[stunnedbygrace]

It’s okay, settle down, I’m leaving.

 

[GEN2REV]

Matthew 25:31-46 is nothing more than a "Parable" to "Herdsmen" using sheep/goats in explanation of the Great White Throne judgement seen in Revelation 20:11-15

Yes Matthew 25:46 clearly shows this "final judgement", eternal life, eternal punishment, (The End) with no Millennial Kingdom on this earth following as many claim

Matthew 25:46KJV
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

So glad you made this thread. I've been studying this out lately and have really been wanting to clear up this 1,000 year Millennium reign nonsense.

Yes, Rev. 20:1-6 states that there will be a 1,000 year reign of Christ and it is the ONLY snippet of this event ANYWHERE in the entire Bible from Genesis to Revelation. There is not a SINGLE verse, anywhere within that very book of Revelation, nor anywhere else in all of scripture, that echoes the details of this event or confirms it in ANY way whatsoever.

The most important doctrines in the Bible are mentioned multiple times, in multiple ways, by multiple authors.

Bottom line. This event described in Rev. 20 is 100% non-literal, symbolic vision while "in the spirit." There is absolutely ZERO scripture outside of Revelation that confirms a literal 1,000 year reign of Christ after the Second Advent, or at any time for that matter. AND Revelation itself contradicts this event multiple times and ways throughout the book.

From KJV intro to Revelation: "...Revelation centers around vision and symbols..." (Read: NOT LITERAL)

I look forward to the evolving discussion - knowing MANY will 100% deaf-ear all the undeniable facts from scripture that utterly refute this man-made false doctrine. And why are they so adamant? Because it is their battle cry that allows them to deny some of the most important events in scripture while setting a foundation for other events that just aren't true at all.

Here's the first wave of facts that DENY this nonsense doctrine. (They will need to be repeated many times throughout this thread.)

1. Nowhere in any of the apocalyptic passages of scripture (Thessalonians, Matthew, Isaiah, etc.) is there any confirmation of a 1,000 year period of time that will come.
2. Revelation 6 details events that would not allow the earth to be happily inhabited for a millennium afterward.
3. Revelation 10 speaks of time coming to a close.
4. Revelation 19 details the wiping out of the beast and false prophet and the remainder of sinners from off the earth.

This is not the entirety of the issues with Rev. 20, but it's a start. Each one of these points is enough to negate the Millennial Reign time period as a legitimate doctrine to believe in and/or teach.