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Daniel Veler

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1) ok so don’t claim to be saved
2) the divinity of Christ and the holy trinity are Christian doctrines
Christian doctrines and baptism are the means of salvation Mk 16:16
To reject Christian doctrine is to reject Christ and salvation
I did say those who reject the truth but those that don’t know it. Most doctrine are those things thought through human reasoning.
 

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Do tell! How do you become a born again Christian?

I will give you the answer Christ told his disciples.


Matthew 19:25


“When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.”
 

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Do tell! How do you become a born again Christian?


I will give you the answer Christ told his disciples.


Matthew 19:25


“When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.”



Perfectly grill salmon

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Chickening a Barbie no rice double broccoli. House salary with two ranch two breads.
 

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1) ok so don’t claim to be saved
2) the divinity of Christ and the holy trinity are Christian doctrines
Christian doctrines and baptism are the means of salvation Mk 16:16
To reject Christian doctrine is to reject Christ and salvation
To reject the truth is to reject Christ. Not doctrine as you refer.
 

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I did say those who reject the truth but those that don’t know it. Most doctrine are those things thought through human reasoning.
Ok I was not referring to those who are ignorant

but doctrine is truth and is revealed by God!
And is truth is immutable!

truth was revealed by Christ to his church, the apostles, Jude 1:3 and Must be taught or proposed by holy mother church
 

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I will give you the answer Christ told his disciples.


Matthew 19:25


“When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.”



Perfectly grill salmon

Bake potato house salad w 2 ranch


Chickening a Barbie no rice double broccoli. House salary with two ranch two breads.

what? No beans?
 

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Ok I was not referring to those who are ignorant

but doctrine is truth and is revealed by God!
And is truth is immutable!

truth was revealed by Christ to his church, the apostles, Jude 1:3 and Must be taught or proposed by holy mother church
Well we finally agree on something but the church is individuals that makeup the body of Christ. Denominations doesn’t meant to be the church. also God is not the author of confusion. Denominations have caused the division in our assemblies. Read the letters in Revelation and see how division enters in.
 

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Well we finally agree on something but the church is individuals that makeup the body of Christ. Denominations doesn’t meant to be the church. also God is not the author of confusion. Denominations have caused the division in our assemblies. Read the letters in Revelation and see how division enters in.

no that’s pan-Christianity not the body (physical) of Christ we enter by faith and baptism Mk 16:16 acts 2:38-39 acts 8:36-37

there are no denominations in scripture
Only the one true church Jn 10:16 founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles Matt 16:18-19 Matt 18:18 Jn 20:21-23 eph 2:20

all others are the tradition of men and heretical sects only Christ has authority to found the church
 

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no that’s pan-Christianity not the body (physical) of Christ we enter by faith and baptism Mk 16:16 acts 2:38-39 acts 8:36-37

there are no denominations in scripture
Only the one true church Jn 10:16 founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles Matt 16:18-19 Matt 18:18 Jn 20:21-23 eph 2:20

all others are the tradition of men and heretical sects only Christ has authority to found the church
I guess will just have to disagree on the church I believe it is the body of believers in Christ.
 

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1 Jn 1:2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)
The scriptures 1 John 1:1-4 Shows us that Jesus who was and is the Only Begotten Son of God and who is, "the word of life," was with YHWH(Jehovah) "from the beginning" as Gods first creation, by means of whom "all other things were created." Colossians 1:15,16 YHWH, who is the fountain of life, has revealed the way of life through his Word of truth, which is his Only Begotten Son. The Lord Jesus Christ at 2 Timothy 1:10 "shed light upon life and corruption through the good news."
At John 6:63, 66-68 after many of Jesus disciples had left him and no longer would walk with him Jesus asked his 12 Apostles if they wanted to leave him too. Peter answered for all the twelve, who would they go to. The Apostles knew even though this teaching was strange and hard to understand the one thing they knew for certain, that they had faith in, was that it was Jesus who was and is the Son of God, that had sayings of everlasting life, not what the religious leaders of the Jews were saying. Today God is speaking to us through his Only Begotten Son the sayings and way concerning eternal life. Everyone must acknowledge the position and authority the True God YHWH who is the Father and God of Jesus, has put and given his Only Begotten Son.
 

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I guess will just have to disagree on the church I believe it is the body of believers in Christ.

please go to the Christian life forum and under the church forum the thread papal encyclical appreciation read MORTALIUM ANIMOS
For a biblical understanding of the church founded by Christ Christ n Peter and the apostles