The Council of Nicea vs another christian religion

[amadeus]

You are mixing personal revelation from knowing Scripture.

Am I? You do not know what I believe, but I will try to explain.

Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

All Scripture is the truth. (John 17:17)

What it says is: "Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."

Is the Scripture equal to the Word of God? I believe the former alone is the dead body of Jesus, effectively then a dead letter [ink (from dead petroleum] on pages of paper (from dead trees]. The latter is the Resurrected Body of Jesus, effectively the Living Word of God. How does it come to Life in us, if it does?

"[God] Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life." II Cor 3:6

"It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life." John 6:63

 

[amadeus]

@robert derrick

When we quote Scripture, we quote the truth and know the truth.

I believe that this would be true only if what we are quoting is quickened in us by the Spirit of God. When Satan challenged Jesus he quoted the 91st psalm [91:11]while Jesus quoted Deuteronomy 6 [6:16]. Satan words were scripture, but the were dead words. Jesus' words were scripture, but they were Alive!

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

The truth is that God created the heaven and the earth, and I know that for an absolute fact. It's an 'AT'.

How well do we all "know" our ATs? The one you cite may indeed be an AT, but God knows them all. What man can say that he knows them all?

Personal revelation is a different matter of prophecy. They don't cause divisions in the church, except that one may or may not believe them.

Divisions come from interpreting Scripture differently. There is a difference between knowing Scripture, and knowing doctrine of Scripture.

What about being led by the Spirit instead of by the flesh? Does the logical mind decide, or does God?

Most Scripture is without interpretation, because it is plainly written, and is either believed or not, as with Gen 1:1.

People who say they are believers will disagree about what is plainly written and what is not. What and where is heaven or the heavens? What and where is the earth?

What man is in or has been in the three heavens, but the man, Jesus? Are we, the little bit of dirt that we are, not the earth?

When we add (Col 1:16-17):
For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

We can now teach an interpretation and doctrine of Scripture: Jesus Christ is the God that created the heaven and the earth.

John 1:1 & 14 would confirm it.

Divisions come over doctrinal teaching, and they can become so sharp, that there is no fellowship at all.

Sad, but true.

That is why I stick to Scripture. I keep fellowship with anyone confessing Jesus is the Lord, and only break company with anyone due to their open living of sin and transgression. (1 Cor 5:10)(2 Thess 3:14)

I don't break fellowship over doctrinal differences. That is where love covers a multitude of differences.

Give God the glory!

 

[robert derrick]

Am I? You do not know what I believe, but I will try to explain.


What it says is: "Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."

Is the Scripture equal to the Word of God? I believe the former alone is the dead body of Jesus, effectively then a dead letter [ink (from dead petroleum] on pages of paper (from dead trees]. The latter is the Resurrected Body of Jesus, effectively the Living Word of God. How does it come to Life in us, if it does?

"[God] Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life." II Cor 3:6

"It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life." John 6:63

Ok. I think I understand. Knowledge alone is puffed up. Even as the letter alone is profitless.

Scripture is the written Word of God, that tells us plainly what God says.

But without the Spirit and faith, they do us no good.

The Spirit gives us understanding of what is written, and by faith we do it.

For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

Is the Scripture equal to the Word of God?
The letters on a page are not. The words written are.

I though you were speaking of some form of nihilism of knowledge and understanding, as they we can never really be sure about anything.

 

[robert derrick]

@robert derrick

I believe that this would be true only if what we are quoting is quickened in us by the Spirit of God. When Satan challenged Jesus he quoted the 91st psalm [91:11]while Jesus quoted Deuteronomy 6 [6:16]. Satan words were scripture, but the were dead words. Jesus' words were scripture, but they were Alive!

How well do we all "know" our ATs? The one you cite may indeed be an AT, but God knows them all. What man can say that he knows them all?

What about being led by the Spirit instead of by the flesh? Does the logical mind decide, or does God?


People who say they are believers will disagree about what is plainly written and what is not. What and where is heaven or the heavens? What and where is the earth?

What man is in or has been in the three heavens, but the man, Jesus? Are we, the little bit of dirt that we are, not the earth?



Give God the glory!

Satan words were scripture

No they weren't. He misquoted the Scripture in order to render it a different meaning, even as he did in the garden. Jesus defeated him by quoting the Scripture accurately, and giving it's true meaning.

Once again: Divisions come by interpretation and teaching of Scripture. And those divisions usually come by not making accurate difference between what is written and what is not.

The one you cite may indeed be an AT.

No, it is an AT without doubt, nor shadows of understanding. It is what it is. 2 + 2 = 4.

We don't need to stray from acknowledging reality in order to be humble about knowing the things of God.

Now, whether it is believed or not is another matter, that does make a big difference in a person's heart and mind and life.

What man can say that he knows them all?

The man Christ Jesus.

There is a difference between knowing what we know of an absolute certain, because we read and believe what is plainly written, and knowing all things of God in Scripture. That is the goal, that will be achieved, when we no longer see through a glass darkly. And in this life, we can see through that glass clearer and clearer.

What about being led by the Spirit instead of by the flesh? Does the logical mind decide, or does God?

We know the difference by knowing the Scriptures, by which we know the difference between good and evil.

The Spirit of truth never leads nor guides anyone contrary to Scripture.

We don't need to overthink things, and bring in unnecessary doubts and confusion. Scriptures are given by God in order to reveal Himself and His will for us clearly and accurately. They are not given in order to make things more mysterious and doubtful.

People who say they are believers will disagree about what is plainly written and what is not. What and where is heaven or the heavens? What and where is the earth?

These are things that can be explored, if there are any Scriptures revealing them, but they are nothing to do with salvation by faith and fellowship of the saints.

What man is in or has been in the three heavens, but the man, Jesus?

Paul spoke of one man he knew, and it wasn't Jesus.

Are we, the little bit of dirt that we are, not the earth?

Them sanctified in Christ Jesus are not just a little bit of dirt. The body is, but not the soul, the mind, and the spirit: they are eternal.

It's one thing to abase ourselves, that God may lift us up, and it is another to purposely degrade ourselves as dumb dirt. That's not humility, but an appearance of it, that is false:

Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility...Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility.

I'm not at all saying you are doing this. But I do suggest we can overplay the 'humble' thing, when it comes to knowledge and understand of the truth.

If we think we know, we know not as we ought to know, but we can certainly know many things for sure, as we ought by reading them in Scripture.

 

[amadeus]

Ok. I think I understand. Knowledge alone is puffed up. Even as the letter alone is profitless.

Scripture is the written Word of God, that tells us plainly what God says.

But without the Spirit and faith, they do us no good.

The Spirit gives us understanding of what is written, and by faith we do it.

For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

We are not then perhaps so far apart.
Give God the glory!

 

[robert derrick]

We are not then perhaps so far apart.
Give God the glory!

I think maybe when I am 77 I might start hedging my bets and not think I know so much...;)

If I am 77.

 

[amadeus]

Satan words were scripture

No they weren't. He misquoted the Scripture in order to render it a different meaning, even as he did in the garden. Jesus defeated him by quoting the Scripture accurately, and giving it's true meaning.

Once again: Divisions come by interpretation and teaching of Scripture. And those divisions usually come by not making accurate difference between what is written and what is not.

The one you cite may indeed be an AT.

No, it is an AT without doubt, nor shadows of understanding. It is what it is. 2 + 2 = 4.

We don't need to stray from acknowledging reality in order to be humble about knowing the things of God.

Now, whether it is believed or not is another matter, that does make a big difference in a person's heart and mind and life.

What man can say that he knows them all?

The man Christ Jesus.

There is a difference between knowing what we know of an absolute certain, because we read and believe what is plainly written, and knowing all things of God in Scripture. That is the goal, that will be achieved, when we no longer see through a glass darkly. And in this life, we can see through that glass clearer and clearer.

What about being led by the Spirit instead of by the flesh? Does the logical mind decide, or does God?

We know the difference by knowing the Scriptures, by which we know the difference between good and evil.

The Spirit of truth never leads nor guides anyone contrary to Scripture.

We don't need to overthink things, and bring in unnecessary doubts and confusion. Scriptures are given by God in order to reveal Himself and His will for us clearly and accurately. They are not given in order to make things more mysterious and doubtful.

People who say they are believers will disagree about what is plainly written and what is not. What and where is heaven or the heavens? What and where is the earth?

These are things that can be explored, if there are any Scriptures revealing them, but they are nothing to do with salvation by faith and fellowship of the saints.

What man is in or has been in the three heavens, but the man, Jesus?

Paul spoke of one man he knew, and it wasn't Jesus.

Are we, the little bit of dirt that we are, not the earth?

Them sanctified in Christ Jesus are not just a little bit of dirt. The body is, but not the soul, the mind, and the spirit: they are eternal.

It's one thing to abase ourselves, that God may lift us up, and it is another to purposely degrade ourselves as dumb dirt. That's not humility, but an appearance of it, that is false:

Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility...Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility.

I'm not at all saying you are doing this. But I do suggest we can overplay the 'humble' thing, when it comes to knowledge and understand of the truth.

If we think we know, we know not as we ought to know, but we can certainly know many things for sure, as we ought by reading them in Scripture.

Too many points of disagreement or variation for me to go through them. Just to read through it all is making this old man tired. If there is any one point of all the you would like me to clarify or answer let me know and I will try that.

Essentially you seem to be are too literal for me. I read all of the Bible regularly and each day in my time alone with God I always strive to go to the very lowest room so as to allow Him then to elevate me as He sees fit. Some days nothing seems to change, but then at other times I notice a difference immediately. So again what is growing in the Lord all about?

 

[amigo de christo]

@robert derrick

I believe that this would be true only if what we are quoting is quickened in us by the Spirit of God. When Satan challenged Jesus he quoted the 91st psalm [91:11]while Jesus quoted Deuteronomy 6 [6:16]. Satan words were scripture, but the were dead words. Jesus' words were scripture, but they were Alive!

How well do we all "know" our ATs? The one you cite may indeed be an AT, but God knows them all. What man can say that he knows them all?

What about being led by the Spirit instead of by the flesh? Does the logical mind decide, or does God?


People who say they are believers will disagree about what is plainly written and what is not. What and where is heaven or the heavens? What and where is the earth?

What man is in or has been in the three heavens, but the man, Jesus? Are we, the little bit of dirt that we are, not the earth?



Give God the glory!

Satan sure did quoate part of actual scripture to JESUS . What made it dead , was that he implied JESUS then could TEMPT GOD
and just JUMP off that cliff . IN other words , that ol serpent did the same thing its always done .
It quoates things , but uses said truth to justify disobediance to GOD .
Lets look at that ol tree for a second . Notice satan says what he does , THEN he adds a truth , YET again
this truth is twisted to imply that they could indeed disobey GOD and eat of the tree .
YE shall become as gods to know good and evil . LATER EVEN GOD says they have become as us to know good and evil .
Look again at that cliff . Just as GOD had told adam and adam told eve , NOT to eat of that one tree ,
He had also told man THOU shall not TEMPT the LORD thy GOD . In both cases HE , as in satan , uses scrips to try and cause
one to disobey GOD . THAT IS THE WORKING and the WORK of satan . HE says partial truths , but uses said truths to cause folks to
DISOBEY GOD .
AND SO DO MANY of his priests and his pastors . For they often say , HAS JESUS really said ye shall not put away your wife
and marry another and if ye do so its adultery . NAY nay they say , nay nay says the spirit of the serpent that is in them ,
GOD IS LOVE , ITS OKAY if you put away your wife , YE can marry , its written that GOD said its not good for the man to be alone .
SEE how that ol serpent works . AND HE DOES THIS with many things . HE gets folks to disobey JESUS
by saying GOD is love and thus GOD understands . AND so on and so forth the devil has worked through men for centuries .

 

[amadeus]

I think maybe when I am 77 I might start hedging my bets and not think I know so much...;)

If I am 77.

In the late 1980's into the early 1990's I was working hard to learn the Bible thoroughly... being certain that eventually I would be able to gain what Enoch received. That was really my goal. I read and I studied continuously and then, I backslid for 10 years. I stopped praying and I stopped reading my Bibles and I stopped attending church services. It was a most painful time.

Something had really been missing in my studies: Being led by the Holy Spirit!

In 2002 I was allowed [or called?] to enter back in with God, but the severe chastisement through which we had to pass then tested us greatly.

Then came the miracles. From that time, I had learned something new: It was how to grow. No hedging bets involved, even though there have been a whole lot of bumps in the road. That was the road to age 77. In December it will be 78. In June of next year it will be 50 years with the same spouse.

 

[amigo de christo]

In the late 1980's into the early 1990's I was working hard to learn the Bible thoroughly... being certain that eventually I would be able to gain what Enoch received. That was really my goal. I read and I studied continuously and then, I backslid for 10 years. I stopped praying and I stopped reading my Bibles and I stopped attending church services. It was a most painful time.

Something had really been missing in my studies: Being led by the Holy Spirit!

In 2002 I was allowed [or called?] to enter back in with God, but the severe chastisement through which we had to pass then tested us greatly.

Then came the miracles. From that time, I had learned something new: It was how to grow. No hedging bets involved, even though there have been a whole lot of bumps in the road. That was the road to age 77. In December it will be 78. In June of next year it will be 50 years with the same spouse.

I see why you fell my friend . You were studying that bible for the wrong reason . Something that would exalt you .
Many have fallen going down that path . Yet WHEN GOD hits that heart , he puts a love for HIM and TRUTH upon that heart .
WE now read the bible cause we simply have that GOD GIVEN GRACE for the love of truth .
Many a pastor has went down this self exalting road . The road that ends with the second death .
I pray at least some of their eyes will be opened and perhaps repentance can be given and they can recover themselves out of the snare
which the devil had fed their flesh .
Our walk is so simply really . I am sad to see that many men have complicated such a simple walk .
We should just have LOVED OUR LORD and from thankful hearts , lowly hearts , Honored HIM as we walk lowly and humble .
The LORD IS OUR HOPE , hope in man is vain , BUT HOPE IN GOD IS HOPE THAT ENDURES all things . LET THE LORD BE PRAISED my friend .

 

[amadeus]

Satan sure did quoate part of actual scripture to JESUS . What made it dead , was that he implied JESUS then could TEMPT GOD
and just JUMP off that cliff . IN other words , that ol serpent did the same thing its always done .
It quoates things , but uses said truth to justify disobediance to GOD .
Lets look at that ol tree for a second . Notice satan says what he does , THEN he adds a truth , YET again
this truth is twisted to imply that they could indeed disobey GOD and eat of the tree .
YE shall become as gods to know good and evil . LATER EVEN GOD says they have become as us to know good and evil .
Look again at that cliff . Just as GOD had told adam and adam told eve , NOT to eat of that one tree ,
He had also told man THOU shall not TEMPT the LORD thy GOD . In both cases HE , as in satan , uses scrips to try and cause
one to disobey GOD . THAT IS THE WORKING and the WORK of satan . HE says partial truths , but uses said truths to cause folks to
DISOBEY GOD .
AND SO DO MANY of his priests and his pastors . For they often say , HAS JESUS really said ye shall not put away your wife
and marry another and if ye do so its adultery . NAY nay they say , nay nay says the spirit of the serpent that is in them ,
GOD IS LOVE , ITS OKAY if you put away your wife , YE can marry , its written that GOD said its not good for the man to be alone .
SEE how that ol serpent works . AND HE DOES THIS with many things . HE gets folks to disobey JESUS
by saying GOD is love and thus GOD understands . AND so on and so forth the devil has worked through men for centuries .

Too many men are content with a mixed message which they teach and/or have been taught and/or have even practiced so as to walk their own way, to serve really their own purposes first... rather than God's. Do we walk down the highway of holiness blindly?

For what are the weapons and armor given to us by God? How are we to use them? Consider young David when preparing to confront the giant, Goliath:

"And Saul armed David with his armour, and he put an helmet of brass upon his head; also he armed him with a coat of mail.
And David girded his sword upon his armour, and he assayed to go; for he had not proved it. And David said unto Saul, I cannot go with these; for I have not proved them. And David put them off him." I Sam 17:38-39

So David went out to meet Goliath with only a sling and five smooth stones... God provides all that is needed, when and if it is needed! David killed the giant with that sling and a single stone of the five he had! What were those five stones?

 

[amadeus]

I see why you fell my friend . You were studying that bible for the wrong reason . Something that would exalt you .
Many have fallen going down that path . Yet WHEN GOD hits that heart , he puts a love for HIM and TRUTH upon that heart .
WE now read the bible cause we simply have that GOD GIVEN GRACE for the love of truth .
Many a pastor has went down this self exalting road . The road that ends with the second death .
I pray at least some of their eyes will be opened and perhaps repentance can be given and they can recover themselves out of the snare
which the devil had fed their flesh .
Our walk is so simply really . I am sad to see that many men have complicated such a simple walk .
We should just have LOVED OUR LORD and from thankful hearts , lowly hearts , Honored HIM as we walk lowly and humble .
The LORD IS OUR HOPE , hope in man is vain , BUT HOPE IN GOD IS HOPE THAT ENDURES all things . LET THE LORD BE PRAISED my friend .

Yes, let Him be praised!

 

[robert derrick]

Too many points of disagreement or variation for me to go through them. Just to read through it all is making this old man tired. If there is any one point of all the you would like me to clarify or answer let me know and I will try that.

Essentially you seem to be are too literal for me. I read all of the Bible regularly and each day in my time alone with God I always strive to go to the very lowest room so as to allow Him then to elevate me as He sees fit. Some days nothing seems to change, but then at other times I notice a difference immediately. So again what is growing in the Lord all about?

So again what is growing in the Lord all about?

Try starting a thread about it.

For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God.

I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.

 

[amigo de christo]

Too many men are content with a mixed message which they teach and/or have been taught and/or have even practiced so as to walk their own way, to serve really their own purposes first... rather than God's. Do we walk down the highway of holiness blindly?

For what are the weapons and armor given to us by God? How are we to use them? Consider young David when preparing to confront the giant, Goliath:

"And Saul armed David with his armour, and he put an helmet of brass upon his head; also he armed him with a coat of mail.
And David girded his sword upon his armour, and he assayed to go; for he had not proved it. And David said unto Saul, I cannot go with these; for I have not proved them. And David put them off him." I Sam 17:38-39

So David went out to meet Goliath with only a sling and five smooth stones... God provides all that is needed, when and if it is needed! David killed the giant with that sling and a single stone of the five he had! What were those five stones?

Yes indeed my friend .
When folks say or teach hey we need to know this or that and say things like you need to sit under these men . WHO i might add
Teach falsehoods . Or they say we need to pray to saints , to mary or angels .
I say NOPE . I have the same GOD that david did . Do you know why David was so confident .
Was his confidence in HIMSELF , OR DID HE RATHER SAY , GOD WILL DELIVER YOU INTO MY HANDS . DAVIDS TRUST WAS not in men
or even in himself . BUT IN GOD . AND THAT IS THE TRUST WE NEED TO PUT IN JESUS ALONE . TOo many men are deceving
so many . But it was well written . Cursed is the man whose hope and trust is in men , is in flesh .
BUT BLESSED , AND BLESSED I SAY , is the one WHOSE HOPE IS IN CHRIST ALONE . YEAH , I SAY THAT MAN will not be dissapointed
Simple childlike faith , childlike trust , childlike hope in CHRIST is all , and do i TRULY MEAN , ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
we need .

 

[amadeus]

So again what is growing in the Lord all about?

Try starting a thread about it.

For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God.

I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.

New thread started here:So again what is growing in the Lord all about?

 

[Robert Gwin]

I was speaking of widows and orphans. Charity among the church.

The churches of God are the churches of God, not the religions of the world.

So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure.

Paul took up a collection from the churches for those of Jerusalem.

And besides, matters of faith is not a condition for charity with our neighbors in need. We provide for our onw 1st. We have charity among the household of faith. And finally we love our neighbors as ourselves, when a opportunity arises to do so.

We're not talking about 'intermingling' of different faiths.

We consider all other faiths to be babylon the great

Except of course for the one true faith of God: the faith of Jesus. Upon which the churches of God are built by Jesus.

Thanks for clarifying that Rob, many think that all "churches" belong to God, but as you indicated the "one true faith of God' does have many churches/congregations throughout the earth. God through those sees to it that no widows or orphans are lacking, matter of fact that no Christian is lacking Ps 37:25.

 

[Robert Gwin]

On several things you have written I have been with you... this one, no. Jesus was speaking of the heart of man and the heart of God, as I see it. Man has always been beastly since he began to disobey God. Only when and if he has completely overcome the ways of the flesh is it no long so.

God, on the other hand, has always been good and has always been love. He does not change. Do I understand all of these things? I only understand what God has shown me... and certainly I have been wrong, but He is not finished with me yet. Trust Him, no matter what!

I can say Ama, that I hope you are correct, but from my understanding if someone knows God yet refuses to congregate they are showing a disregard for a commandment. No doubt you would agree that a commandment is not to be forsaken. Hebrews 10:24,25 tells us: let us consider one another so as to incite to love and fine works, 25 not forsaking our meeting together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the more so as you see the day drawing near.

When the new covenant went into force and the congregations began to form, those who refused to join with them in my opinion would no longer be accepted to spread the word as they seen fit. Again I hope that we are incorrect, but I cannot confirm that scripturally.

 

[amadeus]

I can say Ama, that I hope you are correct, but from my understanding if someone knows God yet refuses to congregate they are showing a disregard for a commandment. No doubt you would agree that a commandment is not to be forsaken. Hebrews 10:24,25 tells us: let us consider one another so as to incite to love and fine works, 25 not forsaking our meeting together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the more so as you see the day drawing near.

Most of my life I have made a special effort to congregate with God's people. Now with my wife's particular susceptibility and the pressure of the Covid-19 situation added to other things beyond my control, I have gone for more than a year without physically attending any church meeting. In the beginning it was especially difficult but God has shown me to be content with what He has given me. There are people in worse situations. I have been in worse situations. What a mighty God we serve!

When the new covenant went into force and the congregations began to form, those who refused to join with them in my opinion would no longer be accepted to spread the word as they seen fit. Again I hope that we are incorrect, but I cannot confirm that scripturally.

But again, men have always been beastly since Adam and Eve led them down that road. Jesus has brought us a better Way, the highway of holiness indeed, and we have the Holy Spirit to lead us, if we are paying attention. Too many people love their beastly ways better than they love the Truth of God and so they walk in their delusions.

 

[robert derrick]

There is always one simple Scripture that concludes every argument about Scripture and the things of God, and it usually the most obvious and plain of all:

Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book.

Adding any oral and/or written tradition to 'accompany' Scripture for the doctrine and gospel of Christ, is adding to the commandment of God and the Word of Christ.

End of story.

 

[Robert Gwin]

Most of my life I have made a special effort to congregate with God's people. Now with my wife's particular susceptibility and the pressure of the Covid-19 situation added to other things beyond my control, I have gone for more than a year without physically attending any church meeting. In the beginning it was especially difficult but God has shown me to be content with what He has given me. There are people in worse situations. I have been in worse situations. What a mighty God we serve!



But again, men have always been beastly since Adam and Eve led them down that road. Jesus has brought us a better Way, the highway of holiness indeed, and we have the Holy Spirit to lead us, if we are paying attention. Too many people love their beastly ways better than they love the Truth of God and so they walk in their delusions.

We are still attending zoom meetings sir. At this time we are scheduled to attend the spring assembly physically, but I seriously doubt that will be a reality. The governmental statistics show covid in Illinois to be very low, but the news speaks like it is out of hand. We have lost around 20,000 brothers/sisters to the disease, a staggering amount for sure. We have had a few in our congregation that have had it, but none have died from it.