new version of OSAS?

[Eternally Grateful]

The teaching, if that is what you call it, comes from the adherents of your cult.
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the mere fact you do not even understand what we teach, Proves this statement is false. It is also a derogatory statement.

The people who believe as I do believe a dog returns because he is still a dog. He never was transformed. Hence he was never saved.

I would suggest instead of trying to tell us what you THINK we BELIEVE, You instead open your mind or at the least just stick to discussing what the word says.

Continuing to make these false accusations just puts you in a bad light

 

[amigo de christo]

Hi, we are talking again?....Jesus didn't come into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.


God is Love, From the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks....

The Reason People Go to Hell Is by rejecting the Truth, The word of God we call Jesus, the promises of God, The Word that became Flesh, The one we beheld his glory as the only begotten son of God full of grace and truth, The reason people go To hell is because they don't believe in him who died for there sins so they choose to be judged for their Sins

Jesus is the name above every name, and at the name of Jesus Every Knee will Bow and tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord To the Glory of God the Father

That Should be a few points if we are talking again

Yes The glorious Lord JESUS must be believed in to be saved .
For if we deny HIM , HE will deny us .
But did you know i once could proclaim Christ by mouth yet denied Him in heart .
And that is a very terrible place to be . I was lost .
My works , my fruits proved i did not know Christ .
Let us learn the biblical Christ well and learn the sound doctrines the apostles would later teach .
For i remind us all there is a way which seems right unto a man yet the end is death .
How does one deny the faith , deny Christ and yet they still seem to lip his name as i once did .
Let paul say how . If one is not a doer , aka , if one does not provide for his own and specially those of his own household
HE has denied the faith and is worse than an infidel . We must learn the teachings of our savoir well .
For if any man hears and yet does not His sayings , that man built his house on sand with no foundation .
For if we truly are born again , are His , then the SPIRIT would be within us giving us both the will and performance of doing .
And those who have the Spirit , would sound a lot more like the apostles who always by the Spirit
stirred folks up with all reminders , both of the goodness and severity of God . Reminding them to be hearers and doers .
Reminding all to continue in Christ faithful to the end . As JESUS warned and reminded upon earth
so too did the apostels remind and warn while on earth . And as JESUS had warned and reminded on earth
SO TOO did HE FROM heaven remind and warn the churches . IF we follow not this pattern , THEN WHO do we truly follow .
The time has been and NOW is that all return to those bibles and start reading like never before . GET that JESUS engrained
Get the lovely and pure words and the pattern that Christ and the apostels taught , engrained on the heart .
I warn us all that many are preaching another jesus , which as you can see i did not capitalize that , IS NOT JESUS .
These are dangerous and highly deceptive days we are living in today . And it wont be getting better
only much more shall deception and deceivers abound . WE MUST LEARN JESUS . HE , HE is able to keep us from falling .
SO LEARN THAT JESUS .

 

[Addy]

Your ignorance of scripture is breathtaking.

Well there... I just took you off of IGNORE after a 24 hour ban of my presence... and here you go again...

Perhaps my purpose within the forums is to display my ignorance of scripture so that you can check off one of the boxes on
your BE GOOD and DO GOOD list.... Smarter than ADDY... check..... There now... you can have a break for like 5 minutes before
you have to be good again... LOL

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Carrying on the point Of what Jesus Did, He came to Do the will of the Father, To Save Sinners, to bring light into a dark world, to be made like his people, to bear witness to the truth, To destroy the Devil and his works, To give eternal Life, To Receive Worship, To Bring Joy, To Serve, To bring Peace, To Reveal His Love To Sinners

I Was just getting started I could go on and on and on we probably wouldn't have enough space to write about it....Everything you could ever need is found in Jesus

AMen

Keep our eyes on the cross. The keeper and sustainer of our faith. the knowledge we have eternal life. Promised before time began.

 

[Cooper]

the mere fact you do not even understand what we teach, Proves this statement is false. It is also a derogatory statement.

The people who believe as I do believe a dog returns because he is still a dog. He never was transformed. Hence he was never saved.

I would suggest instead of trying to tell us what you THINK we BELIEVE, You instead open your mind or at the least just stick to discussing what the word says.

Continuing to make these false accusations just puts you in a bad light

You have had approximately ten years of my time, so no more please. You do correctly say once a dog always a dog, so you make my point for me. Thank you for your time and goodbye.
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[BloodBought 1953]

So @Blood Bought 1953

How many weaker brethren would remain weak through no motivation whatsoever to practice abstinence from fleshly desires?

How many?

Only God knows. Do you want to answer for these souls on the last day?

"But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand." (Ezekiel 33:6)

Do you know what God used to motivate his people long ago from doing evil?

Here’s an example:

"And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother; Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you. And those which remain shall hear, and fear, and shall henceforth commit no more any such evil among you." (Deuteronomy 19:18-20)

So when there’s a grave consequence to sinning, it helps to motivate the evil doer from not doing evil. Once Saved Always Saved eliminates the real consequences of sin!

All that OSAS does is this:

"…made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his wicked way, by promising him life:" (Ezekiel 13:22)

Have you never heard of “Chastisement” ....that is how God gets errant and foolish Believers back in line when they stray......Ignore God's Chastisement and He can turn it up a notch or two....even to the point if knocking you dead on your feet.....Salvation in tact if you were a Believer in the Gospel.....you will “ make it”, but like Paul says, you will make it like a man barely escaping a house fire! Then you will get to stand before Jesus as one full of regret snd shame and your Rewards will be scant....

 

[BloodBought 1953]

They aren’t called “Christ Rejectors” either. They are called Brothers!

What do you call yourself?

Not a brother??!!

They are “ Christ Rejectors” by default....

Anybody that believes Jesus is God in the Flesh and that He rose from the dead is my Brother.....many of them are hard to love.....many add to Paul’s Gospel and are “Fallen From Grace” because of it ....some refuse to Rest in the Gospel and are comparable to the ancient Jews that wasted away in the Desert— Guilty Of Disobedience and Unbelief —-they are still my Brothers ......Weak Brothers Living out Beggarly Walks Of Faith , yet still they are my Brothers ,and as I said , it gets harder and harder to love many of them.....

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You have had approximately ten years of my time, so no more please. You do correctly say once a dog always a dog, so you make my point for me. Thank you for your time and goodbye.
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This is what OSAS preaches.

So when you accuse OSAS of teaching different. You falsly accuse them my brother.

Just saying

 

[Michiah-Imla]

They are “ Christ Rejectors” by default....

You, sir, are called a “brother” regardless if some might see you as a “scripture rejector”, “Christ Rejector”, etc. And though some here might see me as a “Christ Rejector”, others see me as a “brother” in the faith.

Stop your foolishness.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Have you never heard of “Chastisement” ....that is how God gets errant and foolish Believers back in line when they stray.....

Faithful believers do not remain “errant and foolish”. That’s why we are to constantly read ALL the scriptures:

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works." (2 Timothy 3:16-17)

Ignore God's Chastisement and He can turn it up a notch or two....even to the point if knocking you dead on your feet.....Salvation in tact

"Though a sinner do evil an hundred times, and his days be prolonged, yet surely I know that it shall be well with them that fear God, which fear before him" (Ecclesiastes 8:12)

"But it shall not be well with the wicked" (Ecclesiastes 8:13)

The lake of fire will not be well for those who have sinned, “saved” or not.

"And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life." (Revelation 21:27)

 

[BloodBought 1953]

You, sir, are called a “brother” regardless if some might see you as a “scripture rejector”, “Christ Rejector”, etc. And though some here might see me as a “Christ Rejector”, others see me as a “brother” in the faith.

Stop your foolishness.

No.Any more requests, Brother?

 

[amigo de christo]

No.Any more requests, Brother?

I have one . Let all be diligently reading our bibles and learning the Christ of the bible and all doctrine of the apostles very well .
And be on gaurd we have all inclusive amongst us even here . Anyone wanna help contend for the true gospel MOUNT UP , cause its under
massive attack with a false love and truly is just another false gospel giving out a false hope to the world . A dark light if you will.
Be on gaurd , for if the light which is in one be darkness then great that darkness is . No matter if it comes with words like love
unity , liberty or peace . God is not going to allow the true gospel of Christ to be mocked under foot .
HE IS LOVE , thus HE SENT CHRIST . That all who do BELIEVE , key word , BELIEVE in HIM shall be saved .
Not so that everyone could follow their own religoin and mindset and be saved . NOPE .
And its here amongst us even now BB . Even now . Spawned by the R double C or the R C square , whichever term you prefer
it all spells the same . And cant a one of us go under that lie .

 

[BloodBought 1953]

You, sir, are called a “brother” regardless if some might see you as a “scripture rejector”, “Christ Rejector”, etc. And though some here might see me as a “Christ Rejector”, others see me as a “brother” in the faith.

Stop your foolishness.

Nobody is calling “ You”a Christ rejector....I was referring to those simply “ called” Brothers In
the verse we were looking at...

Stop your Ignorance.

 

[amigo de christo]

In other words , instead of attacking those who remind as did JESUS and the apostels , to be doers and hearers
and to continue in HIM faithful to the end , Start going after the ones
who teach this all inclusive lie . It aint love and it surely is not of GOD to allow other religoins
to feel saved in their own religion and path . That is HATE SPEECH . For i know by grace and am fully
persauded by that same grace , THAT ONE must believe that GOD has rose JESUS from the dead
and must confess HIM by mouth to be saved . Paul did not write that in vain . NOR DID JESUS
say in vain that all who beleive not would be damned . Let no foot , let no eye , let no ear , let not thought
go under this false love go spell .

 

[BloodBought 1953]

I have one . Let all be diligently reading our bibles and learning the Christ of the bible and all doctrine of the apostles very well .
And be on gaurd we have all inclusive amongst us even here . Anyone wanna help contend for the true gospel MOUNT UP , cause its under
massive attack with a false love and truly is just another false gospel giving out a false hope to the world . A dark light if you will.
Be on gaurd , for if the light which is in one be darkness then great that darkness is . No matter if it comes with words like love
unity , liberty or peace . God is not going to allow the true gospel of Christ to be mocked under foot .
HE IS LOVE , thus HE SENT CHRIST . That all who do BELIEVE , key word , BELIEVE in HIM shall be saved .
Not so that everyone could follow their own religoin and mindset and be saved . NOPE .
And its here amongst us even now BB . Even now . Spawned by the R double C or the R C square , whichever term you prefer
it all spells the same . And cant a one of us go under that lie .

Thank God some people get Saved “ Despite” the Catholic Church.....One could say the same thing about many of our Protestant churches too......let’s give credit to the Romanists where it is due—— at least they are open about their ignorance....I could fill a warehouse with it....

 

[amigo de christo]

Thank God some people get Saved “ Despite” the Catholic Church.....One could say the same thing about many of our Protestant churches too......let’s give credit to the Romanists where it is due—— at least they are open about their ignorance....I could fill a warehouse with it....

Oh many in the protestant realm are long sold out as well . The key is , COME YE OUT FROM AMONGST them and partake not
of their false unity . For they gather under another spirit now and that Spirit is denying that JESUS must be confessed and believed in .
BB , folks are sucking this up . They are falling for a false image of love and thus a false image of GOD and of CHRIST .
God is love , only HE aint the love they preach him to be . HE SENT CHRIST SO THOSE WHO WOULD BELEIVE would be saved
And the author of our eternal salvation made that very clear as did all the apostles . AS MUST lambs today .

 

[HisLife]

Yes The glorious Lord JESUS must be believed in to be saved .
For if we deny HIM , HE will deny us .
But did you know i once could proclaim Christ by mouth yet denied Him in heart .
And that is a very terrible place to be . I was lost .
My works , my fruits proved i did not know Christ .
Let us learn the biblical Christ well and learn the sound doctrines the apostles would later teach .
For i remind us all there is a way which seems right unto a man yet the end is death .
How does one deny the faith , deny Christ and yet they still seem to lip his name as i once did .
Let paul say how . If one is not a doer , aka , if one does not provide for his own and specially those of his own household
HE has denied the faith and is worse than an infidel . We must learn the teachings of our savoir well .
For if any man hears and yet does not His sayings , that man built his house on sand with no foundation .
For if we truly are born again , are His , then the SPIRIT would be within us giving us both the will and performance of doing .
And those who have the Spirit , would sound a lot more like the apostles who always by the Spirit
stirred folks up with all reminders , both of the goodness and severity of God . Reminding them to be hearers and doers .
Reminding all to continue in Christ faithful to the end . As JESUS warned and reminded upon earth
so too did the apostels remind and warn while on earth . And as JESUS had warned and reminded on earth
SO TOO did HE FROM heaven remind and warn the churches . IF we follow not this pattern , THEN WHO do we truly follow .
The time has been and NOW is that all return to those bibles and start reading like never before . GET that JESUS engrained
Get the lovely and pure words and the pattern that Christ and the apostels taught , engrained on the heart .
I warn us all that many are preaching another jesus , which as you can see i did not capitalize that , IS NOT JESUS .
These are dangerous and highly deceptive days we are living in today . And it wont be getting better
only much more shall deception and deceivers abound . WE MUST LEARN JESUS . HE , HE is able to keep us from falling .
SO LEARN THAT JESUS .

Hey its frienduf and your talking to me as well....yay... Or is it another narrowway Hit and run, well I guess we will wait to see if you engage in conversation this time, the narroway hit and runs get boring...been trying to get your attention for about a year you usually ignor me...but regardless just put those hands up would you just put those hands up frienduf....That's a long answer to what specifically im have trouble finding but let's discuss some points that I can find that are coherent...but still nice to discuss for once

Yes the Lord must be believed to be saved as 1 Corinthians says By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. So Yes Christians Believed when they were saved, Past tense When they received the Seal of eternal life, the Holy Spirit, So Christians Don't deny him They Believed on him

Thats sad you followed a christ that was different, I also hear you follow one now you think sends Gods Children to Hell? thats not the biblical Jesus either, Jesus will never lose one his father gave to him, A question I think is important, this First Jesus You learnt about Did you believe he rose from the dead? or did that one not, And also your new one sends Christians to hell?, Is this correct view, thanks it just helps clear up a lot of things you try and talk around

Im not interested in talking about our works, Because even if we have works that are for God it is God working through us, I don't think taking meds till our out of your mind mocking others scheming at your site and coming to attack others are works in line with what Jesus Teaches and those are the works that I have seen, I haven't seen any Good but I haven't been looking either, Your works are between you and God, But the ones that boasted about there Works Jesus did say he never knew them

Your always bringing another Jesus In almost every post I read of yours lately, Its not about learning lots of Different Jesus, Its about Believing The Truth There is only One truth and Jesus is The truth, Seek The truth and the truth will make you free.

Well to be honest your ramblings turn into incoherent condemnation, I think you take your fake view of Judge to your head, If that's your view of sharing Love Goodluck finding people that want to hear it Because it doesnt line up with the Love that Jesus Displayed....how is your site going these days I popped in it looks pretty Dead

 

[amigo de christo]

Hey its frienduf and your talking to me as well....yay... Or is it another narrowway Hit and run, well I guess we will wait to see if you engage in conversation this time, the narroway hit and runs get boring...been trying to get your attention for about a year you usually ignor me...but regardless just put those hands up would you just put those hands up frienduf....That's a long answer to what specifically im have trouble finding but let's discuss some points that I can find that are coherent...but still nice to discuss for once

Yes the Lord must be believed to be saved as 1 Corinthians says By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. So Yes Christians Believed when they were saved, Past tense When they received the Seal of eternal life, the Holy Spirit, So Christians Don't deny him They Believed on him

Thats sad you followed a christ that was different, I also hear you follow one now you think sends Gods Children to Hell? thats not the biblical Jesus either, Jesus will never lose one his father gave to him, A question I think is important, this First Jesus You learnt about Did you believe he rose from the dead? or did that one not, And also your new one sends Christians to hell?, Is this correct view, thanks it just helps clear up a lot of things you try and talk around

Im not interested in talking about our works, Because even if we have works that are for God it is God working through us, I don't think taking meds till our out of your mind mocking others scheming at your site and coming to attack others are works in line with what Jesus Teaches and those are the works that I have seen, I haven't seen any Good but I haven't been looking either, Your works are between you and God, But the ones that boasted about there Works Jesus did say he never knew them

Your always bringing another Jesus In almost every post I read of yours lately, Its not about learning lots of Different Jesus, Its about Believing The Truth There is only One truth and Jesus is The truth, Seek The truth and the truth will make you free.

Well to be honest your ramblings turn into incoherent condemnation, I think you take your fake view of Judge to your head, If that's your view of sharing Love Goodluck finding people that want to hear it Because it doesnt line up with the Love that Jesus Displayed....how is your site going these days I popped in it looks pretty Dead

You did an oopsy , i already found something that is massively untrue . You said i believed that GOD sent babies and children to hell .
BUT I NEVER once said that . Another person said that . I never said JESUS sent christians to hell .
You got a list of things that i do not do . You are mistaking me for another . Assumption is deadly . You should have asked .
So begin with asking questions . Like , DO you believe God sends babies to hell . THEN i could answer and say NO i dont .

 

[HisLife]

You did an oopsy , i already found something that is massively untrue . You said i believed that GOD sent babies and children to hell .
BUT I NEVER once said that . Another person said that . I never said JESUS sent christians to hell .
You got a list of things that i do not do . You are mistaking me for another . Assumption is deadly . You should have asked .
So begin with asking questions . Like , DO you believe God sends babies to hell . THEN i could answer and say NO i dont .

Lol what... you did an oppsy....Christians Are Gods children, that's the context, your message is they can go to hell, So you do Believe God can send his Children to Hell or do You believe OSAS Now...lol as if, Dunno where you pulled babies from, But with perspective your jumping to conclusions and your persecution complex takes over...calm down

 

[HisLife]

You should have asked .
So begin with asking questions . Like , DO you believe God sends babies to hell . THEN i could answer and say NO i dont .

Ok great Do you believe Someone can Become Born again Child of God here on Earth and then later they can someway somehow Lose their Salvation and End up in Hell?