Forgiveness is to those who keep the commandments of the Lord.

[kcnalp]

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James 2:18 (NKJV)
18 Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.

 

[kcnalp]

I have said multiple times. We are saved by grace through faith. Works have no part of our salvation process, they are a result,

one day you will learn to interpret what others say, I have never said a child of god will never work.

again wake up dude, I am sick of your childish behavior,

OSAS and no works fit well together.

James 2:18 (NKJV)
18 Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Psa 103:12, As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.
Psa 103:13, Like as a father pitieth his children, so the LORD pitieth them that fear him.
Psa 103:14, For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust.
Psa 103:15, As for man, his days are as grass: as a flower of the field, so he flourisheth.
Psa 103:16, For the wind passeth over it, and it is gone; and the place thereof shall know it no more.
Psa 103:17, But the mercy of the LORD is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children;
Psa 103:18, To such as keep his covenant, and to those that remember his commandments to do them.

Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and for ever (Hebrews 13:8).

Jhn 15:12, This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
Jhn 15:13, Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
Jhn 15:14, Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.

Jesus laid down His life for His friends. You are His friend, if you do what He commands.

What does He command; but that we love one another?

Rom 13:8, Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
Rom 13:9, For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Rom 13:10, Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

We are to "love thy neighbor as thyself"; and this consists of obeying God's commandments:

1Jo 5:3, For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

2Jo 1:6, And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.

The God of the Old Testament and the God of the New Testament are one and the same God. Jesus is the same YHWH. (Hebrews 13:8).

So, the commandments in the Old Covenant, as moral tenets which we are to follow, are still valid. They are the commandments of the LORD (Jesus).

Of course, commandments as concerning animal sacrifices are fulfilled in that Jesus died on the Cross as the fulfillment of those types. However, moral tenets are binding when it comes to what we read in the Old Testament. If we love our neighbor as ourselves, we will fulfill them; we will not violate them in our behaviour.

And I will say that the scriptures above do show that forgiveness is applied to those who, as a general rule, keep the commandments of the LORD.

It is not that we are saved through law-keeping.

It is that, if we are truly born again, we are inclined towards obedience.

There is a repentance that must take place in your heart in order to become a recipient of the Lord's forgiveness.

You must become Jesus' friend; and only then has He given His life for you.

You are His friend if you obey His commandments.

Jesus is the God of the Old and New Testaments.

If you love the Lord your God with all of your heart, soul, mind, and strength; and your neighbor as yourself: you will fulfill the righteousness of the law in your behaviour.

You will not be violating any law if you bear the fruit of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23).

The venue by which we obtain this righteousness is apart from the law; nevertheless this righteousness is attested to by the law and the prophets that it is righteousness indeed (Romans 3:21).

You must obtain the Holy Spirit through faith in Christ (Galatians 3:14); and then, as you walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit, the righteousness of the law will be fulfilled in you (Romans 8:4).

There is no law that will condemn your behaviour if you bear the fruit of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23).

So, you will not be disobedient to the commandments of the Lord if you are born again of the Holy Spirit. You will be a friend of Jesus according to the scriptures in question.

Lots of words and yet you are still wrong! forgiveness is given at the moment of salvation to end eternal judgment. Day to day forgiveness is given when a Christian obeys god and does 1 John 1:9

The law is not of the righteous but the unrighteous. A believer is righteous because Christ is our righteousness and not our deeds!

All 613 commands of the Old Covenant are void due to teh death and resurrection of Jesus! Even the ten in stone which God now says is a ministry of death and not life!

As Paul wrote- the law was given so that sin would abound! The law was given to make one sin- to show them sinners to the core and to drive them to jesus!

 

[kcnalp]

He is not

I suggest yu stop bearing false witness against him!

So you believe all Christians do good works? Hmm.
So YOU have a works religion also!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Stop twisting my words.

Those are my words not your, I did not twist anything

I see now. The OSAS judges with their works religion accusing others of what OSASers are guilty of. Hypocrisy!

James 2:22 (NKJV)
22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect?

I told you I will not talk to you when you have your mocking attitude. Humble yourself then come talk

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You are attacking Christians for having good works. If you don't have Christian works then you aren't a Christian! Do you have Christian works?

Nope.

I have works, all christians have works. You have no clue what I am saying you just proved it,

 

[Eternally Grateful]

What do you mean my ONLY initially? When did I say I was against Christians doing good works? That is a straw man argument.

Another one who lies about us. Because they do not understand us

 

[kcnalp]

Those are my words not your, I did not twist anything


I told you I will not talk to you when you have your mocking attitude. Humble yourself then come talk

Yeah, yours is a works religion. Stop with the false accusations!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

BINGO! Yours is a works religion also!

Nope

because works have no bearing on one being saved or not

saved by grace through faith. Not by works of righteousness which we have done but by his mercy, paul was clear,

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Again you attack good works! You have a real problem. Maybe it's that OSAS self righteousness.

Dude he has done no such thing.
I find it amazing you preach works while bearing false witness against your brother,

 

[kcnalp]

Nope.

I have works, all christians have works. You have no clue what I am saying you just proved it,

Well yeah, Christianity is a works religion. If you don't have good works you're not a Christian!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Sad.

Yeah it is sad that you can not grasp what others are saying

 

[Eternally Grateful]

So you believe all Christians do good works? Hmm.
So YOU have a works religion also!

Again, nope

works are a result of salvation. Not a precurser to earn salvation like you teach

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Yeah, yours is a works religion. Stop with the false accusations!

Yawn

I think you just like to argue and pick fights, you have no meat in your argument

 

[kcnalp]

Nope

because works have no bearing on one being saved or not

Did you actually say that??? How Satanic!

saved by grace through faith. Not by works of righteousness which we have done but by his mercy, paul was clear,

You already admitted you have a works religion.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Well yeah, Christianity is a works religion. If you don't have good works you're not a Christian!

No one is saved because of works,

they work because they are saved,

one day you will see this.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Did you actually say that??? How Satanic!

You already admitted you have a works religion.

Actually yeah let me rephrase, there was a work that accomplished my salvation. Maybe you heard of it, it is called the cross.

your and my works are like filthy rags, we can’t pay for one sin. Our sin condemns us and we are lost apart from the cross

 

[kcnalp]

Actually yeah let me rephrase, there was a work that accomplished my salvation. Maybe you heard of it, it is called the cross.

your and my works are like filthy rags, we can’t pay for one sin. Our sin condemns us and we are lost apart from the cross

You just confessed that you were saved by a work.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You just confessed that you were saved by a work.

Yep

Gods work. Not mine

now will you admit that is what i meant, or prove to me your just playing games?

 

[kcnalp]

Yep

Gods work. Not mine

now will you admit that is what i meant, or prove to me your just playing games?

You keep preaching works. You have a works religion. You should stop pointing fingers. You have several pointing back at you.