Why Do You Add Unto the Word of God?

[Base12]

To believe the verse as is means to believe what the Bible has to say about death. There is physical death and there is also "the second death" (eternal separation from God). So unless you are prepared to accept what the Bible has to say about death, you will continue to be confused.

Agreed one hundred percent. Adam and his Wife died a physical death on the very day they ate the Forbidden Fruit, just like God said they would. Their bodies had no heartbeat, no pulse, no breath, etc.

Yet you say the opposite here...

BTW Adam did not drop death on the day that he ate of the forbidden fruit. So there's your clue.

It sounds like you agree with the 'Death will be a certainty' teaching.

BTW, I believe the phrase 'Eternal Separation' has to do with Body and Soul only, not Spirit.

 

[Base12]

Body Dies...But something within the man does not die...what is that?

Spirit.

What becomes of that something, when the body dies?

The Spirit returns to God...

Ecclesiastes 12:7
"Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it."

Body + Soul Together called...an Alive Living man KIND of thing.

Did you know that our Souls are Feminine?

Psalms 34:2
"My soul shall make her boast in the LORD: the humble shall hear thereof, and be glad."

• I have a Male body. Some have Female.
• We all have a Masculine Spirit, however...
• We all have a Feminine Soul

Now you know why Men marry Jesus. It is our Feminine Soul that is married to him.

BTW...
Body, Spirit, and Soul are three parts.

;)

Great comments everyone. I will address more when I get back from work.

 

[Taken]

Spirit.

The Spirit returns to God...

Ecclesiastes 12:7
"Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it."

Did you know that our Souls are Feminine?

Psalms 34:2
"My soul shall make her boast in the LORD: the humble shall hear thereof, and be glad."

• I have a Male body. Some have Female.
• We all have a Masculine Spirit, however...
• We all have a Feminine Soul

Now you know why Men marry Jesus. It is our Feminine Soul that is married to him.

BTW...
Body, Spirit, and Soul are three parts.

;)

Great comments everyone. I will address more when I get back from work.

Hadn't yet addressed, what Scripure Specifically calls "the spirit of man".

Yes man is Created A body,
Mans bodily Life (blood), MADE alive,
With a Soul, (that is Gods, called by the identity of our body's Name) God Made, containing His Breath,
(Which God IS Spirit, and what His gives to us ( His breath, His Seed, is Spiritual).

Isa 57:
[16] For I will not contend for ever, neither will I be always wroth: for the spirit should fail before me, and the souls which I have made.

Ezek 18:
[4] Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

Zechariah 12:
[1] The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.

The formed spirit of a natural man, is that man's Truth in his heart.

Carnal Minds, continuously change. Weigh new knowledge, True knowledge, False knowledge, and logically tries to cipher the most sensible to believe.

The spirit, doesn't require "weighing between this and that." (Guessing, logically choosing) It's Truth is what it is.

The Carnal mind can be in tricked, fooled, into believing Lies.
And WHY God says:

Rom 8:
[7] Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

And WHY, God requires Confession of Belief...
From the thoughts of a man's spirit in his heart.

^ Once THAT ^ occurs...God Broadly Does Two Things:
1) Quickly Accepts a true Heartful Confession.
2) Has a laundry list (so to speak) of Changes He makes Quickly within that man.
Which ...is where the making of a man Natural spirit, reborn with Gods Seed.

Soul "feminine"...? hadn't studied that aspect.

God Bless,
Taken

 

[Mantis]

Every Church, every Pastor, every Christian that I know of has added a word, or set of words, between 'surely' and 'die'...

Genesis 2:17
"But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely [.....................] die."

Here are the most common words, or sets of words, that are added...

• Spiritually
• Begin to

Some Christians teach: "...thou shalt surely [Spiritually] die"

Others teach: "...thou shalt surely [begin to] die"

I teach: "...thou shalt surely die"

Here is the ironic part...

I am not allowed to simply believe the verse as-is. I must 'add unto' the Word of God in order to be accepted into a Church or Forum.

Why is that?

Well they ate of it and now everything dies. They died. If they would have passed that test then we wouldn’t be on a dying Earth dying ourselves.

 

[Wrangler]

I like what @101G pointed out about a Day being twelve hours.

Just like how long Jesus was in the ground, there are multiple meanings for day:

1. Day light
2. Calendar Day
3. 24 hour period of time.

In our world today, this is confusing when travel itineraries are put together. Often, there is one more day than night in the itinerary, e.g., 7 day, 6 night cruise. Day light is the meaning @101G pointed out .

An event can take 5 minutes but said to happen over 2 Calendar days, such as 11:58 PM to 12:03 AM. Also, I work 5 days a week but only 1/4-1/3 of each day. I call that full time.

Then there is the time interval of 24 hours.

Language would be less confusing if words did not have all these ‘senses’.

 

[Wrangler]

Every Church, every Pastor, every Christian that I know of has added a word, or set of words, between 'surely' and 'die'...Why is that?

I explained it this way to a Pastor. It is hard to claim the devil is lying when telling the literal truth but God is figuratively telling the truth while literally lying. He didn't deny it.

If you think lying is wrong consider the law of love (John 13:34-35) as it pertains to lying to the Nazi's to protect Ann Frank. Of course God lies. He hates it but it is a necessary weapon in war. And make no mistake THE LORD OF HEAVEN'S ARMIES is at spiritual war. Why did Satan rebel? Because he was lied to; he believed he had a snowball's chance in hell of victory against the Creator. The lie revealed the truth - about Lucifer. Below, God lies to 400 prophets.


I also saw the LORD seated on his throne with every creature in heaven gathered around him. 20 The LORD asked, “Who can trick Ahab and make him go to Ramoth where he will be killed?”

They talked about it for a while, 21 then finally a spirit came forward and said to the LORD, “I can trick Ahab.”

“How?” the LORD asked.

22 “I’ll make Ahab’s prophets lie to him.”

“Good!” the LORD replied. “Now go and do it.”
1 Kings 22:19-22

 

[Base12]

Thanks for featuring the thread!

And thanks to everyone who has visited and commented. I will go over the posts and respond soon.

:cool:

 

[atpollard]

Why is that?

Sometimes I rewrite scriptures just because I am bored. :cool:

In this particular case, the fact that Adam and Eve were not dead by sunset suggests that God meant something other than “you will drop dead by sunset on the day you eat it”.
... but that’s just me. God MIGHT have been telling a fib.

 

[Base12]

Soul "feminine"...? hadn't studied that aspect.

OK, this is weird. My Pastor decided to talk about this today completely out of the blue.

There is no way this is a coincidence.

He talked about our Feminine Soul being married to the Body, which is the Masculine Law...

Romans 7:1-2
"Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?"

"For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband."

See that? Now look what happens next...

Romans 7:4
"Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God."

When we die, our 'Feminine Soul' is free to marry another 'Man'. That Man is Jesus.

Fast forward to 11:00...

 

[Base12]

They died.

In what way though? Spiritually?

 

[Base12]

22 “I’ll make Ahab’s prophets lie to him.”

Indeed. Fascinating stuff.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Every Church, every Pastor, every Christian that I know of has added a word, or set of words, between 'surely' and 'die'...

Genesis 2:17
"But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely [.....................] die."

Here are the most common words, or sets of words, that are added...

• Spiritually
• Begin to

Some Christians teach: "...thou shalt surely [Spiritually] die"

Others teach: "...thou shalt surely [begin to] die"

I teach: "...thou shalt surely die"

Here is the ironic part...

I am not allowed to simply believe the verse as-is. I must 'add unto' the Word of God in order to be accepted into a Church or Forum.

Why is that?

People interpret scripture different ways. Don't get me wrong, they have the right to go by their interpretation of scripture and express what they believe. That doesn't mean you have to agree with their interpretation. Like the scripture you brought up, Genesis 2:17. Some interpret Adam spiritually died, others, begin to die. All the scripture at Genesis 2:17 says is that you will surely die, and that's what Adam did, he died in the day he ate of the forbidden fruit. The scriptures tell us that to God a day is a thousand years and a thousand years is a day.(2 Peter 3:8) Adam surely died before he reached a thousand years so he did die in the day he ate the forbidden fruit.

 

[kcnalp]

People interpret scripture different ways.

And you accept all of Kingdom Hall's interpretations? Oh that's right, you won't confess.

 

[Base12]

God MIGHT have been telling a fib.

See, that's what the Critics claim because they see that Adam and Eve lived for hundreds of years and had many children. In other words, they didn't die. God lied.

They often say things like...

"God lied, the Serpent told the Truth!" <- Try typing that into a search engine

That's when the Christian Apologists begin to add their 'spin' to the verses by saying it was a 'Spiritual Death', or 'Death was a certainty', etc.

 

[Base12]

The scriptures tell us that to God a day is a thousand years and a thousand years is a day.(2 Peter 3:8) Adam surely died before he reached a thousand years so he did die in the day he ate the forbidden fruit.

That would fit into Post #2...

Genesis 2:17
"But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the [hundreds of years after] thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

The word 'day' has been taken out, while the words 'hundreds of years after' has been added.

 

[n2thelight]

Even worse...

Some will both take away from and add unto the Word of God...

Genesis 2:17
"But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the [hundreds of years after] thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

The word 'day' has been taken out, while the words 'hundreds of years after' has been added.

Now the word 'day' can mean whatever length of time One wishes it to mean. Is this correct?

No the word day cannot mean whatever one says, for that you must say what's in the scripture , ie , a day with the Lord is a 1000 years , which means Adam did die that day

 

[n2thelight]

Adam's First Wife Was Not Eve!

Sad part is , you believe that .
However for a just because, why didn't Adam die as well ?

 

[Base12]

Sad part is , you believe that .
However for a just because, why didn't Adam die as well ?

Adam died a physical death too.

No sad, but rather Good News!

I will reveal the REAL meaning of the phrase Surely Die tonight.

 

[Wrangler]

No the word day cannot mean whatever one says, for that you must say what's in the scripture , ie , a day with the Lord is a 1000 years , which means Adam did die that day

So, does that mean Jesus was in the ground for 3,000 years before being resurrected?

 

[Taken]

Base12 ~

Interesting.
Bodily death, we Know, is the Blood of the body, and god requires the bodys death.
(Gen 9:5)

At first, may sound gruesome to a man who fears death, and even to this day, a man will spend his last penny to remain bodily alive.

Inanutshell (Rom 8:13) expounds
Bodily death Required of all.
(Quickened spirit (born again) Required "for forever Life";
Rom 8:
[13] For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

And the SOUL...does not become dead, it becomes RESTORED...
(Psalms 23:1)
again MADE very good, acceptable, as it was when given,
(As when God blew his breath into a man, and called what he had made Very good.)

A Very good soul...Restored..."for what"?
Scripture says ...

Matt 5:
[33] Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:

That seems to parallel your point.

Paralleling "MARRIAGE"...
God gave us "marriage" between a man and a woman....A Temporary Flesh Union.

IMO practice, for a "Permanent Spiritual Union between a man and the Lord God".

Glory to God,
Taken