Why do the wise virgins not share their oil with the foolish virgins?

[Fred J]

The 10 virgins are woken up because the bridegroom is coming, and they are to go out to meet Him.

Unfortunately, oil have run out and the lamp's flame have gone out for the 5 foolish virgins.

The 5 wise virgins could not share their oil because lest there be not enough for them and the foolish virgins.

There is a reason why their lamps had to be lit at all times while waiting for the bridegroom.

Moreover, the bridegroom was delayed, therefore the 10 virgins slumbered and slept.

After the cry was made at midnight, the 10 arose and had to make the most with what they had left for their lamps to keep burning.

This parable took place during the night until midnight and that's why they had to take lamps since darkness set in.

 

[Fred J]

The 10 virgins are woken up because the bridegroom is coming, and they are to go out to meet Him.

Unfortunately, oil have run out and the lamp's flame have gone out for the 5 foolish virgins.

The 5 wise virgins could not share their oil because lest there be not enough for them and the foolish virgins.

There is a reason why their lamps had to be lit at all times while waiting for the bridegroom.

Moreover, the bridegroom was delayed, therefore the 10 virgins slumbered and slept.

After the cry was made at midnight, the 10 arose and had to make the most with what they had left for their lamps to keep burning.

This parable took place during the night until midnight and that's why they had to take lamps since darkness set in.

This parable of Jesus refers to the age of darkness to come, the reign of 'anti-Christ' and the false prophet for three and a half years.

Tribulation that the virgins of Christ will undergo, is in the hands of the people of darkness in this world, with anti-Christ and the false prophet.

These virgins got through the Tribulation undefiled, with their lamp burning as the light for the world, remain intact.

While the ages of darkness continued, these virgins with their light burning sought out to expect the Lord's return and rapture.

Since, the Lord apparently delayed, these virgins were at a point of low self-esteem, in other words, 'slumbered and slept'.

For no one know neither the day nor the hour of His return to welcome His virgins.

But the virgins were foretold ahead about His return, circumstances and probable delay.

As a result, half were wise being prepared and the other half were foolish being unprepared.

Therefore, half went up to meet the Lord in the cloud, and the other half were left behind.

Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ

 

[Grailhunter]

Jesus told the Parable of the Ten Virgins in Matt 25:


The oil symbolizes spiritual preparedness.


But, if we look at this story in a literal sense, the "wise virgins" who brought oil for their lamps do not show the generosity or doing on to others that Jesus' other parables emphasize.

Right, but that would be straining the parable beyond its legitimate design. Not every aspect of a parable is meant to have a legitimate interpretation. That's the definition of a parable.

Isn't giving to those who do not have means a tenant of Jesus' teachings?

Right, but here, the oil represents the individual's own preparedness. By definition, you are responsible for your own preparedness. The dealers represent the pastors and teachers who are supposed to help with your preparations. In a way, they may have failed to do their job properly teaching the foolish virgins.

So, why are the ten wise virgins rewarded for denying their sisters?

They are not. They are rewarded for their own wise preparations.

Why do the wise virgins not share their oil with the foolish virgins?

By definition, they can't. Working out your salvation is your own responsibility.

Good questions.

I have made it clear that one, there is no requirement in the scriptures…Old or New Testament for a wedding ceremony to be married….I have also made it clear that the word wedding does not occur in the scriptures.

So what do you think this parable of the ten virgins was about?
More accurately where does it come from?
You will find nothing like it elsewhere in the scriptures.
Nor was any marriage ceremony called a wedding by Jews or Christians or Pagans until around 900 AD. The word wedding comes from Old English, Old Norse, Danish, and German.

But the parable that Christ told was about a marriage ceremony – the ten virgins was very similar to a wedding ceremony and it was actually about a ceremony that was practiced by the Jews…..so why isn’t in the scriptures?

Tough question? To answer this you would have to do some research. But not in the scriptures…..in history….between the Old and New Testaments. Very few know the answer to this….it is mostly a college thing. But I will save you the time and effort.

Towards the end of the OT the Jews fell under the “friendly” rule of the Persians. The Persians were known for their elaborate marriage ceremonies that could last for a week. The Jews developed their own marriage ceremonies during this time. It is thought that they did this because they admired the Persian marriage ceremonies. They were not required but supposedly they became popular.

When the Persians were conquered by Alexander the great in 334 BC the Jews and Greeks developed a hatred for each other and for centuries the Jews were persecuted and killed….thousands were crucified and impaled on stakes. As the Greco-Roman society developed the hatred continued and there were a few Jewish revolts more or less declaring war on the Romans. Mostly gorilla type warfare…. thousands were killed and thousands crucified. Back then breeding your enemy out of existence was practiced by taking their wives and impregnating them.

Over time the Jews reasoned that God let this happen to them then and in the OT was for having friendly relations with Pagans and the Jewish marriage ceremony fell out of favor because of its connection to the Persians. During Christ’s time it was not a common practice, that is why it is not mentioned in the scriptures. We do not know if the marriage at Cana. (Marriage at Cana, not Wedding at Cana) was one of these marriage ceremonies. The story picks up at the reception and we do not know who was getting married nor why it was important to Christ and His mother.

Some believe it was between His mother and Lazarus. That is why Lazarus’ death was so significant to Christ and the family setting. But it is only speculation because the scriptures do not confirm this.

As time went on the Jews started conducting these ceremonies again but it was still not required. Aspects of this Jewish marriage ceremony appear in modern Jewish weddings.

The Protestants made wedding ceremonies a requirement to be married….in the 16th century….church weddings. Shortly after that the Catholics and Jews followed suit.

 

[rebuilder 454]

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It's commonly supposed that the five unwise girls were at fault for not
bringing along enough oil for their light sources. That may be true, but I
rather suspect that their mistake was scarcely related to the oil and mostly
related to abandoning their posts.

Had they stuck to their guns (so to speak) they could've joined the
procession along with everyone else. They may have endured a measure of
chagrin for letting their lamps go out, but at least they wouldn't miss the
party.

In other words; they let something relatively minor distract their attention
from something far more important; sort of like Nero concerning himself
with trifles while Rome is on fire all 'round the city.

● Matt 25:10-12 . . While they were on their way to buy the oil, the
bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the
wedding banquet. And the door was shut. Later the others also came. Sir!
Sir! --they said-- Open the door for us! But he replied: I tell you the truth, I
don't know you.

The thing is: while the entrance was open, the general public was welcome
to come on in and join the celebration, but once the door was shut and
festivities commenced, late arrivals were permitted inside only if they were
the bridegroom's friends; which emphasizes that the invitation, though
generous, offered a limited window of opportunity which if missed, was lost
forever.

NOTE: It's sometimes suggested that the oil in the parable of the Ten Virgins
relates to the Holy Spirit, but had the five girls returned with the Holy Spirit,
the groom would've readily allowed them entrance because the Spirit is
depicted in the Bible as a credential validating one's inclusion in Christ's
family circle. (Rom 8:9, 2Cor 1:21-22, Eph 1:13-14, Eph 4:30)
_

Those left behind, carnal uncommitted believers, face the antichrist and are martyred.
The martyrs recieve the highest awards.

It's like saying people beating on Noah's door could have gotten in if God could think like us.
In both instances the door was shut.
With God, the cut off point is non negotiable.
Now is the time of opportunity. Either take it or face the consequences.

What you are assuming is that the school bus can leave while the children are getting ready and they can run all they want after that bus that driver's not going to stop.

I guess they should have been ready.
It is sad that a lot of Christians will be left behind.
And if it's sad to us, I'm sure it's sad to God. But I'm not going to change the components of the parable because of human conjecture. In all the parables there's tons of representation.
If I can't connect the dots, then I need to just admit that I'm clueless to the meaning of the parable.

The 10 virgin Parable is a beautiful depiction of the rapture pre-tribulation.
Such a vivid beautiful picture and there's only one conclusion... if you're not ready you ain't going.
All of them were virgins ,so all of them were believers.
all of them had oil so all of them had the Holy Ghost.
all of them had light ,and the only light any of us have is from Jesus, Heaven, and the Holy Ghost.
we don't have any other light.
All of them had vessels and we are vessels that contain Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
All of them were waiting for Jesus.
All of them were virgins which means pure and undefiled ...and that can only mean Christians.
All of them were obedient to the angels that said the bridegroom is coming, and came out to meet him, and every single one of them ran out to meet him and they gathered at some location.
but some weren't in it for the Long Haul and the only way you're going to be in it for the long haul is to be full of the Holy Ghost.
I think part of the problem is the church just is not full of the Holy Ghost ,and so they don't want to admit that they're running around with an empty lamp, and they don't have any light

they're just like driftwood.... just an old dead log

 

[rebuilder 454]

I have made it clear that one, there is no requirement in the scriptures…Old or New Testament for a wedding ceremony to be married….I have also made it clear that the word wedding does not occur in the scriptures.

So what do you think this parable of the ten virgins was about?
More accurately where does it come from?
You will find nothing like it elsewhere in the scriptures.
Nor was any marriage ceremony called a wedding by Jews or Christians or Pagans until around 900 AD. The word wedding comes from Old English, Old Norse, Danish, and German.

But the parable that Christ told was about a marriage ceremony – the ten virgins was very similar to a wedding ceremony and it was actually about a ceremony that was practiced by the Jews…..so why isn’t in the scriptures?

Tough question? To answer this you would have to do some research. But not in the scriptures…..in history….between the Old and New Testaments. Very few know the answer to this….it is mostly a college thing. But I will save you the time and effort.

Towards the end of the OT the Jews fell under the “friendly” rule of the Persians. The Persians were known for their elaborate marriage ceremonies that could last for a week. The Jews developed their own marriage ceremonies during this time. It is thought that they did this because they admired the Persian marriage ceremonies. They were not required but supposedly they became popular.

When the Persians were conquered by Alexander the great in 334 BC the Jews and Greeks developed a hatred for each other and for centuries the Jews were persecuted and killed….thousands were crucified and impaled on stakes. As the Greco-Roman society developed the hatred continued and there were a few Jewish revolts more or less declaring war on the Romans. Mostly gorilla type warfare…. thousands were killed and thousands crucified. Back then breeding your enemy out of existence was practiced by taking their wives and impregnating them.

Over time the Jews reasoned that God let this happen to them then and in the OT for having friendly relations with Pagans and the Jewish marriage ceremony fell out of favor because of its connection to the Persians. During Christ’s time it was not a common practice, that is why it is not mentioned in the scriptures. We do not know if the marriage at Cana. (Marriage at Cana, not Wedding at Cana) was one of these marriage ceremonies. The story picks up at the reception and we do not know who was getting married nor why it was important to Christ and His mother.

Some believe it was between His mother and Lazarus. That is why Lazarus’ death was so significant to Christ and the family setting. But it is only speculation because the scriptures do not confirm this.

As time went on the Jews started conducting these ceremonies again but it was still not required. Aspects of this Jewish marriage ceremony appear in modern Jewish weddings.

The Protestants made wedding ceremonies a requirement to be married….in the 16th century….church weddings. Shortly after that the Catholics and Jews followed suit.

So Jesus was mistaken in Matthew 22?

Maybe do some research.
You based your entire premise on a lack of investigation.

 

[rebuilder 454]

That virgin parable is the target for those that want to muddy it up.

Why?

We all know why.

 

[rebuilder 454]

This parable of Jesus refers to the age of darkness to come, the reign of 'anti-Christ' and the false prophet for three and a half years.

Tribulation that the virgins of Christ will undergo, is in the hands of the people of darkness in this world, with anti-Christ and the false prophet.

These virgins got through the Tribulation undefiled, with their light burning as the lamp for the world, remain intact.

While the ages of darkness continued, these virgins with their light burning sought out to expect the Lord's return and rapture.

Since, the Lord apparently delayed, these virgins were at a point of low self-esteem, in other words, 'slumbered and slept'.

For no one know neither the day nor the hour of His return to welcome His virgins.

But the virgins were foretold ahead about His return, circumstances and probable delay.

As a result, half were wise being prepared and the other half were foolish being unprepared.

Therefore, half went up to meet the Lord in the cloud, and the other half were left behind.

Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ

Re read it.
The lamps of 5 virgins went out the same night.
IOW right away.
There is not one iota of evidence of any tribulation in that parable

In fact , that absence is there purposefully in every rapture verse.
Every rapture verse is pretrib setting.

 

[Grailhunter]

So Jesus was mistaken in Matthew 22?

Maybe do some research.
You based your entire premise on a lack of investigation.

Where was He mistaken?
Before you respond and put your foot in your mouth.....you might look at the actual scriptures.....real study.....serious study.....don't ever look at a translation....look at the scriptures.
God bless

 

[rebuilder 454]

I have made it clear that one, there is no requirement in the scriptures…Old or New Testament for a wedding ceremony to be married….I have also made it clear that the word wedding does not occur in the scriptures.

So what do you think this parable of the ten virgins was about?
More accurately where does it come from?
You will find nothing like it elsewhere in the scriptures.
Nor was any marriage ceremony called a wedding by Jews or Christians or Pagans until around 900 AD. The word wedding comes from Old English, Old Norse, Danish, and German.

But the parable that Christ told was about a marriage ceremony – the ten virgins was very similar to a wedding ceremony and it was actually about a ceremony that was practiced by the Jews…..so why isn’t in the scriptures?

Tough question? To answer this you would have to do some research. But not in the scriptures…..in history….between the Old and New Testaments. Very few know the answer to this….it is mostly a college thing. But I will save you the time and effort.

Towards the end of the OT the Jews fell under the “friendly” rule of the Persians. The Persians were known for their elaborate marriage ceremonies that could last for a week. The Jews developed their own marriage ceremonies during this time. It is thought that they did this because they admired the Persian marriage ceremonies. They were not required but supposedly they became popular.

When the Persians were conquered by Alexander the great in 334 BC the Jews and Greeks developed a hatred for each other and for centuries the Jews were persecuted and killed….thousands were crucified and impaled on stakes. As the Greco-Roman society developed the hatred continued and there were a few Jewish revolts more or less declaring war on the Romans. Mostly gorilla type warfare…. thousands were killed and thousands crucified. Back then breeding your enemy out of existence was practiced by taking their wives and impregnating them.

Over time the Jews reasoned that God let this happen to them then and in the OT for having friendly relations with Pagans and the Jewish marriage ceremony fell out of favor because of its connection to the Persians. During Christ’s time it was not a common practice, that is why it is not mentioned in the scriptures. We do not know if the marriage at Cana. (Marriage at Cana, not Wedding at Cana) was one of these marriage ceremonies. The story picks up at the reception and we do not know who was getting married nor why it was important to Christ and His mother.

Some believe it was between His mother and Lazarus. That is why Lazarus’ death was so significant to Christ and the family setting. But it is only speculation because the scriptures do not confirm this.

As time went on the Jews started conducting these ceremonies again but it was still not required. Aspects of this Jewish marriage ceremony appear in modern Jewish weddings.

The Protestants made wedding ceremonies a requirement to be married….in the 16th century….church weddings. Shortly after that the Catholics and Jews followed suit.

"...I have also made it clear that the word wedding does not occur in the scriptures."

Ahem:
Matthew 22
3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.

9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.

10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.

11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

...plus many many more.
Spend some time looking it up.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Where was He mistaken?
Before you respond and put your foot in your mouth.....you might look at the actual scriptures.....real study.....serious study.....don't ever look at a translation....look at the scriptures.
God bless

Hard to say " wedding is no where is scriptures" with that shoe in mouth deal you seem stuck in.
In 30 seconds I found 5 or 8 in Matthew

 

[Grailhunter]

"...I have also made it clear that the word wedding does not occur in the scriptures."

Ahem:
Matthew 22
3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.

9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.

10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.

11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

...plus many many more.
Spend some time looking it up.

We are going to need some grease and a crowbar to get your foot out of your mouth.
Again look these verses up in the actual scriptures.

 

[rebuilder 454]

We are going to need some grease and a crowbar to get your foot out of your mouth.
Again look these verses up in the actual scriptures.

Yes.
Get you a Greek textus receptus.
Wedding translates WEDDING.

Maybe post it from your special bible for us, so we can see Jesus mistake.

 

[Grailhunter]

Yes.
Get you a Greek textus receptus.
Wedding translates WEDDING.

Maybe post it from your special bible for us, so we can see Jesus mistake.

LOL I love it!!!
You still have not made your point….

Christ used His Smart Phone to call a taxi to take Him to the airport to fly His Lear jet to California to attend the Hollywood premier of the movie Christ the superstar.

You know why you do not even have to search the scriptures for this, there is a reason why none of this can be in the scriptures.

The Hebrew language did not even have a word for wedding. And the word wedding does not appear in the New Testament for a very good reason, the word did not exist in the 1st century.

 

[rebuilder 454]

LOL I love it!!!
You still have not made your point….

Christ used His Smart Phone to call a taxi to take Him to the airport to fly His Lear jet to California to attend the Hollywood premier of the movie Christ the superstar.

You know why you do not even have to search the scriptures for this, there is a reason why none of this can be in the scriptures.

The Hebrew language did not even have a word for wedding. And the word wedding does not appear in the New Testament for a very good reason, the word did not exist in the 1st century.

Do you suppose it would help if I reposted the verses?

Really????

Nowhere is "wedding" in the bible?

You: "...I have also made it clear that the word wedding does not occur in the scriptures."

Then I show you multiple places it is indeed CLEARLY declared.

You: " I refuse to embrace those verses"

Ok.
Carry on

 

[Grailhunter]

Do you suppose it would help if I reposted the verses?

Really????

Nowhere is "wedding" in the bible?

You: "...I have also made it clear that the word wedding does not occur in the scriptures."

Then I show you multiple places it is indeed CLEARLY declared.

You: " I refuse to embrace those verses"

Ok.
Carry on

You showed be verses from some translation.....could care less.
I said the word wedding is not in the scriptures.
There a few words that appear in the translatons that are not in the scriptures.
We are debating an impossibility here…I am losing my patience.
If you are looking at the Greek word γάμος - Gamos
Gamos is a Greek word that means marriage. It comes from the Greek word gameîn, which means "to marry".

 

[rebuilder 454]

You showed be verses from some translation.....could care less.
I said the word wedding is not in the scriptures.
There a few words that appear in the translatons that are not in the scriptures.
We are debating an impossibility here…I am losing my patience.
If you are looking at the Greek word γάμος - Gamos
Gamos is a Greek word that means marriage. It comes from the Greek word gameîn, which means "to marry".

Just pretend it is not there.
Your patience is your problem.
Pretend you are right.

Your " wedding is nowhere in scripture" is totally debunked in 30 seconds.

You sit in ashes, embarrassed and defiant.

Tap your heels together 3 times and say "wedding is nowhere in scripture"
"wedding is nowhere in scripture"
"wedding is nowhere in scripture"
"wedding is nowhere in scripture"

Then say " ha ha ha I really showed that rebuilder guy"

Plain loco

 

[rebuilder 454]

You showed be verses from some translation.....could care less.
I said the word wedding is not in the scriptures.
There a few words that appear in the translatons that are not in the scriptures.
We are debating an impossibility here…I am losing my patience.
If you are looking at the Greek word γάμος - Gamos
Gamos is a Greek word that means marriage. It comes from the Greek word gameîn, which means "to marry".

SMH
In Some other dimension.
A planet far far away.

 

[Grailhunter]

Just pretend it is not there.
Your patience is your problem.
Pretend you are right.

Your " wedding is nowhere in scripture" is totally debunked in 30 seconds.

You sit in ashes, embarrassed and defiant.

Tap your heels together 3 times and say "wedding is nowhere in scripture"
"wedding is nowhere in scripture"
"wedding is nowhere in scripture"
"wedding is nowhere in scripture"

Then say " ha ha ha I really showed that rebuilder guy"

Plain loco

You are so funny.
I do believe in freedom of religion. So you can believe what you want. No harm no foul. God Bless.

Just as a parting shot, you can look this up yourself.
The word "wedding" comes from the Old English word wedding, which means "state of being wed," "pledge," "betrothal," or "action of marrying". The word "wedding" may also come from the proto-Germanic word wadja, which means "pledge" Around 1150 AD The point being the word did not come from the Hebrew or the Greek.

So you believe in a time traveling word? You have the imagination for it. But to clarify, although the word wedding does not appear in the scriptures nor do the scriptures indicate a required for a ceremony to be married, that does not mean that people were not having marriage ceremonies. They just did not call them wedding.

When Paul started converting Pagan-Gentiles, they brought the custom of marriage ceremonies into Christianity….so Christians did celebrate marriages and still today most Christian weddings ceremonies have these Pagan customs-rituals embedded in them. The fact is, all marriage ceremonies come from Pagan sources. The Old Testament Hebrews did not have an established ceremony. Since women were treated as property their marriage process was more about a contract and exchange of money and maybe celebrations between families.

 

[rebuilder 454]

You are so funny.
I do believe in freedom of religion. So you can believe what you want. No harm no foul. God Bless.

Just as a parting shot, you can look this up yourself.
The word "wedding" comes from the Old English word wedding, which means "state of being wed," "pledge," "betrothal," or "action of marrying". The word "wedding" may also come from the proto-Germanic word wadja, which means "pledge" Around 1150 AD The point being the word did not come from the Hebrew or the Greek.

So you believe in a time traveling word? You have the imagination for it. But to clarify, although the word wedding does not appear in the scriptures nor do the scriptures indicate a required for a ceremony to be married, that does not mean that people were not having marriage ceremonies. They just did not call them wedding.

When Paul started converting Pagan-Gentiles, they brought the custom of marriage ceremonies into Christianity….so Christians did celebrate marriages and still today most Christian weddings ceremonies have these Pagan customs-rituals embedded in them. The fact is, all marriage ceremonies come from Pagan sources. The Old Testament Hebrews did not have an established ceremony. Since women were treated as property their marriage process was more about a contract and exchange of money and maybe celebrations between families.

Again.
Tell Jesus he was wrong for using the word "wedding".
Tell Him it is nowhere in the bible.

 

[Grailhunter]

Again.
Tell Jesus he was wrong for using the word "wedding".
Tell Him it is nowhere in the bible.

He did not use the word wedding, translations put the word in His mouth.
It is ---->Marriage banquet
If He would of said, wedding banquet, no one would have understood what He was saying.....
He could not have said, wedding banquet because at the time the word wedding did not exist.
No languge had the word wedding at that time. If you cannot grasp this, please move on and leave me alone.
If you refer to this again, all I am going to do is refer you to post 63.