Why do Catholics adore, worship and deify Mary so much?

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Jim B

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we believe God and his teaching authority not the “baby believers Bible alone”!

from the Bible alone you cannot know what is the Bible! Only The church has this authority!

You believe whatever your Popes, etc. tell you, even if what they tell you are lies that contradict Scripture. Your parroting those lies is sufficient proof.

"from the Bible alone you cannot know what is the Bible! Only The church has this authority!" is meaningless. The Bible is the Bible! Duh!

Only the church (the Catholic denomination) has the authority to do what? You're not making any sense.

Sola scriptura! For centuries, the Catholic denomination has continually spread lies and committed unspeakable violence, including mass murder (ordered by the Pope!). That is the absolute truth!!!
 
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The man is trapped heavy in the delusion . ITs why i hardly ever respond to him anymore . You could bring ten thousand scrips
to prove the falsehoods and this man Would justify the falsehoods and twist the scripture to FIT THE FALSEHOOD .
ALL i can do now is let him go and pray that perhaps he can be brought to the saving light of Christ berfore its forever too late .
Cause aint nobody gonna preach anyone out of the lake of fire . Prayer for the dead IS USELESS . What matters is
What , who , does one truly follow in THIS LIFE . FOr once this life ends , ITS TOO LATE . AND the popes cant pray anyone out of the
lake of fire . Nor can anyone else .

I agree 110% I just can't tolerate his continual lies!
 
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I have many times . You just do as you always do , Ye RUN to your source the CC , cut copy and paste .
YET you wont do the one thing necessary . READ BIBLE FOR YOU . Stop reading it through the lens of the CC
READ it for yourself . TILL ya do , I only pray for you .
People who have not received the Holy Spirit can't understand scripture and are spiritually blind and deaf to the word of God. And Catholics have been brainwashed from birth by their 'Mother church' who has as its leader an infallible man so what he says must be true.
 
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When Jesus first announced his mission it caused quite a stir in the neighbourhood, so-
"When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, “He is out of his mind” (Mark 3:20-21 NIV)
We don't know if Mary was among the family members who tried to bring him home but I wouldn't be surprised because that's how mothers are, always wanting their family to put on a respectable front for the neighbours..:)

 

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When Jesus first announced his mission it caused quite a stir in the neighbourhood, so-
"When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, “He is out of his mind” (Mark 3:20-21 NIV)
We don't know if Mary was among the family members who tried to bring him home but I wouldn't be surprised because that's how mothers are, always wanting their family to put on a respectable front for the neighbours..:)
That verse wasn't actually speaking of His family. It is more accurately translated "friends" or "acquaintances."

Mark 3:21
[21]And when his friends heard of it, they went out to lay hold on him: for they said, He is beside himself.

The word translated "friends" is this.

para: from beside, by the side of, by, beside
Original Word: παρά
Part of Speech: Preposition
Transliteration: para
Phonetic Spelling: (par-ah')
Definition: from beside, by the side of, by, beside
Usage: gen: from; dat: beside, in the presence of; acc: alongside of.
HELPS Word-studies
3844 pará (a preposition) – properly, close beside. 3844 /pará ("from closely alongside") introduces someone (something) as very "close beside."

3844 (pará) an emphatic "from," means "from close beside" ("alongside"). It stresses nearness (closeness) which is often not conveyed in translation. 3844 (pará) is typically theologically significant, even when used as a prefix (i.e. in composition). 3844 (pará) usually adds the overtone, "from close beside" (implying intimate participation) and can be followed by the genitive, dative, or accusative case – each one conveying a distinct nuance.


So "friends" is a very loose application, as it more refers to people who were nearby (near Jesus) ...and certainly not His close friends or family.

Btw, I'm not Catholic, nor am I trying to defend their doctrine. Not at all.
 

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we believe God and his teaching authority not the “baby believers Bible alone”!

from the Bible alone you cannot know what is the Bible! Only The church has this authority!

No. Jesus Himself told us to search the scriptures. Us. People. Commoners.
John 5:39 "Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me." Why would He have us read something we cannot understand? He wouldn't.
It's just like the Latin thing. None of the common folk understood it. Yet that was the way it was given, until the Bible was translated in their native tongue, so all could read. Now there is a magisterium, so folk have to listen to them, instead of reading for themselves. You will not get into Heaven on any coattails of any other man. You are the one responsible for your own soul. Look for yourself.
 
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People who have not received the Holy Spirit can't understand scripture and are spiritually blind and deaf to the word of God. And Catholics have been brainwashed from birth by their 'Mother church' who has as its leader an infallible man so what he says must be true.

This is a true and perceptive post! Thanks!

It is simply astonishing to me how Catholics are captive to so many beliefs and rituals that have nothing to do with the New Covenant. They have invented a religion that follows itself instead of the Lord. It is, to my mind, a huge corporation that has seduced its followers into accepting whatever they can dream up, packaging it to make it seem as though it comes from God. The Pope is the chairman of the board, headquartered in his luxurious palace in Rome, with his coterie of costumed lackies who dream up the religion they claim is from God, then bilk their followers, many of whom are from impoverished countries, out of whatever money they have.

They sneer at the Bible -- God's written word -- adding one misinterpretation after another to justify their false religion. And perhaps worst of all, they portray Jesus as dead(!), still on the cross!

It is both tragic and disgusting! When the day comes when they face God, I wouldn't want to be a witness to their judgement!
 

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I would have to say men established a Nation in the Year of our Lord, and a Constitution for a moral people, guided by the standards and principles of Gods Word.

And does that nation glorify Him now?

Can a nation turn its back on God and prosper?

Pax et Bonum
 

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And does that nation glorify Him now?

Can a nation turn its back on God and prosper?

Pax et Bonum

Why are you still portraying Christ as dead when He has risen and is at the right hand of God? Do you revel in His death?
 

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And does that nation glorify Him now?

The Principles established for the Nation has not changed.
The people sitting in representative positions of the Nation have changed.

Jesus gave us a new better option. Regardless of what others do, Our Lords Spirit is WITH-IN a man who desires that to be.

Can a nation turn its back on God and prosper?

Big Picture, I would say no.
Individuals, I would say yes. Thieves, Cheater, Liars, can prosper...
Temporarily.
 
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It is, to my mind, a huge corporation that has seduced its followers into accepting whatever they can dream up, packaging it to make it seem as though it comes from God.
And all those who have followed the teaching of the Catholic church have been given false hope and deceived into believing that they will inherit eternal life by being 'born again' when they were 'baptised' as infants and following the teachings of the church instead of the ways of the Lord God.
 
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And all those who have followed the teaching of the Catholic church have been given false hope and deceived into believing that they will inherit eternal life by being 'born again' when they were 'baptised' as infants and following the teachings of the church instead of the ways of the Lord God.

I agree 100%. For some reason, they equate religiosity with faith. They think that, in addition to the above, if they go to "theater" on Sunday and pray to dead people that somehow they are justified in God's sight. It is very, very tragic!

Here is a brief story. A few years ago I was a passenger in a car with a Catholic who was both drinking and smoking marijuana while driving. When we passed by a Catholic church, he crossed himself and said a "Hail Mary". Therefore, in his mind, he was fine with that illegal behavior because he had acknowledged a dead woman.
 
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And all those who have followed the teaching of the Catholic church have been given false hope and deceived into believing that they will inherit eternal life by being 'born again' when they were 'baptised' as infants and following the teachings of the church instead of the ways of the Lord God.

My dear Pearl,

We have been living the Faith for 2000 years, who are you to claim the teachings of the Church are not the ways of the Lord God.
Will you stand as the accusor of your brethren?

I WAS born again when I was baptized as an infant. To reject this is to dishonour the faith of my mother and the faith of the whole Church who prayed for me that day.

That which is believed everwhere by all the apostolic communities is clearly the teaching of Christ through His apostles..

Pax et Bonum
 

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My dear Pearl,

We have been living the Faith for 2000 years, who are you to claim the teachings of the Church are not the ways of the Lord God.
Will you stand as the accusor of your brethren?

I WAS born again when I was baptized as an infant. To reject this is to dishonour the faith of my mother and the faith of the whole Church who prayed for me that day.

That which is believed everwhere by all the apostolic communities is clearly the teaching of Christ through His apostles..

Pax et Bonum

The teachings of the Catholic denomination are not the ways of the Lord God. They are invented by men who claim God's authority, yet have excommunicated and murdered countless people. The exalt Mary to a bizarre extent and encourage praying to dead people instead of to God. They promulgate lies such as Mary is "ever virgin".

An example is that you think that you were born again when you were baptized as an infant, but that is not in accordance with the Bible. It is a myth of the Catholic denomination. Even if your mother and the whole church prayed for you that doesn't make you born again according to the Bible.

That which is believed everywhere by all the apostolic communities is clearly not the teaching of Christ through His apostles.
It is the teaching of the Catholic denomination. The Bible alone is the truth. To the extent that the teachings of the Catholic denomination depart from Scripture is the extent to which it is in error.

Sola scriptura!
 
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..That verse wasn't actually speaking of His family. It is more accurately translated "friends" or "acquaintances."..

People have been debating about different translations for centuries, take your pick..:)

Here's the relevant passage in Mark ch 3 again according to the NIV-
20 Then Jesus entered a house, and again a crowd gathered, so that he and his disciples were not even able to eat.
21 When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, “He is out of his mind.”


When Mary arrived on the scene she too apparently thought Jesus had gone mad-
31 Then Jesus’ mother and brothers arrived. Standing outside, they sent someone in to call him.
32 A crowd was sitting around him, and they told him, “Your mother and brothers are outside looking for you.”
 

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People who have not received the Holy Spirit can't understand scripture and are spiritually blind and deaf to the word of God. And Catholics have been brainwashed from birth by their 'Mother church' who has as its leader an infallible man so what he says must be true.
With so many different and conflicting interpretations of Scripture and as many Communities all claiming to be guided by the Holy Spirit How do you know who has received the Holy Spirit.?
 

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With so many different and conflicting interpretations of Scripture and as many Communities all claiming to be guided by the Holy Spirit How do you know who has received the Holy Spirit.?

Just as there are many cover versions of songs with each singer putting his own style on it, the basic underlying melody remains the same.
Same with Bible versions, the message stays the same in all..:)
 
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People have been debating about different translations for centuries, take your pick..:)
Regardless of translation, one should do their due diligence to check the word meanings in their original languages.