Why do Catholics adore, worship and deify Mary so much?

[Jim B]

Catholics have a need that I don't understand to add so much onto the Word of God.

1) The hierarchy of the clergy: the Pope, cardinals, bishops, priests.
2) The costumes and rituals that bear a closer resemblance to the OT priesthood and practices than anything mentioned in the NT.
3) The extreme elevation of Mary to some sort of divine status, simply because she gave birth to Jesus and raised Him (along with Joseph, who isn't worshiped).
4) The depiction of Jesus as an emaciated European who is still on the cross. (Tragic blasphemy)
5) The claim that the Catholic denomination is "the one true church".
6) The claim that Peter was the first Pope, even though Jesus called him "Satan" and he denied Christ three times. (There is no Pope in Scripture!)
7) Praying to saints, not God.
8) The confession of sins to a priest, who then decides the rituals that must be performed for forgiveness.

... and more.

They have created a "top-heavy" religion that is so far from the true Christianity of the Bible as to make it almost unrecognizable.

Sola scriptura!

 

[Taken]

cos I make my intention known

Hardly.
You type in incomplete sentences, revealing incomplete thoughts, imply an other says when they do not say, and skip around in deflective circles.

 

[amigo de christo]

christ is the source yes

James 5:16 prayer
Rev 5:8 prayers

Rest assured Christ is not the SOURCE behind this prayer to saints , to mary , to angels .
This is not of the SPIRIT of CHRIST , but of men and of Anti Christ . Many know not what spirit they are truly of ......
I suggest we learn those bibles well and then shall one see clearly on how to test the Spirits . For many decieivers
have invaded the christain realm , appearing as men of righteousness , Yet leading many astray through the doctrines and traditions
of men gone wrong .
Thee faith . MANY will wail on the DAY of the LORD , truly wishing they had learned JESUS and wishin so hard
they had not been allured by the deceptoins of men . But on that day , IT WILL Be too late .
Hurry thee faith , and dont look back . Nose in bible , learn bible well . Hurry , dont wait and do not hesistate
for no man knows their last day upon this earth .

 

[amigo de christo]

you’re opposing the 2000 yes tradition of the church of the apostles founded by Jesus Christ with his power and authority!
Jn 20:21-23 same mission power and authority

NO the CC opposes the very doctrines of Christ and of the apostels , YET claims it follows them . IT DONT .
And until you get back into that bible and learn diligently , you will just keep on believing what your men have long
decieved you all with . Thee faith , NOSE IN BIBLE and HURRY . TIME is indeed running out . HURRY thee faith
and dont look back . Nose in that bibile and learn it well .

 

[Taken]

Catholics have a need that I don't understand to add so much onto the Word of God.

1) The hierarchy of the clergy: the Pope, cardinals, bishops, priests.
2) The costumes and rituals that bear a closer resemblance to the OT priesthood and practices than anything mentioned in the NT.
3) The extreme elevation of Mary to some sort of divine status, simply because she gave birth to Jesus and raised Him (along with Joseph, who isn't worshiped).
4) The depiction of Jesus as an emaciated European who is still on the cross. (Tragic blasphemy)
5) The claim that the Catholic denomination is "the one true church".
6) The claim that Peter was the first Pope, even though Jesus called him "Satan" and he denied Christ three times. (There is no Pope in Scripture!)
7) Praying to saints, not God.
8) The confession of sins to a priest, who then decides the rituals that must be performed for forgiveness.

... and more.

They have created a "top-heavy" religion that is so far from the true Christianity of the Bible as to make it almost unrecognizable.

Sola scriptura!

No one is excluded from Gods “VISITATION” List.

Wis 14:
[11] Therefore even upon the idols of the Gentiles shall there be a visitation: because in the creature of God they are become an abomination, and stumblingblocks to the souls of men, and a snare to the feet of the unwise.

 

[Taken]

worship requires “intent”

Your intent is already established, when you make Mary equal with Jesus.

the sons of Jacob “Israel” bowed down to Joseph in obedience not worship!

Joseph’s brothers didn’t FIRST make Joseph equal to God, and THEN bow down to Joseph.

 

[theefaith]

You might want to check out earthly men have a relationship with their earth father and mother, and part of the relationship is for the earthly child to honor their earthly father and mother.

Mary WAS NOT my earthly parent.
Mary IS NOT my spiritual parent.
Mary IS my spiritual sister.

People were given knowledge of Mary’s Service unto God, and a Blessing from God FOR HER Service.
If you learned that, Remember it. Maybe you will understand by a forerunner’s experience the benefit of Service one does FOR God.

Moses, Noah, Samuel, Issac, Jacob, the 12 Tribes, and others also Served God and were Blessed by God for THEIR Service.
If you learned that, Remember it. Maybe you will understand by a forerunner’s experience the benefit of Service one does FOR God.

Every person WHO does Service FOR Jesus (according to Gods WAY), becomes accounted as a “mother, brother, sister” OF JESUS....AND a “son of God”....
Praise, Worship, Bowing, Communication is between those who DO Service FOR the Lord God AND the Lord God.

Living Body’s Communicate among themselves.
The Living Saved souls and spirits communicate among themselves.
The Living Unsaved souls communicate among themselves.

there are no living saved souls?
Matt 24:13

Eve was the mother of the living in the first creation!

The new creation demands a new mother of the living!

Eve was the first Eve, a new Adam demands a new Eve!

Rachel was the spiritual mother of the old covenant.

The new covenant demands a new spiritual mother!

 

[Taken]

there are no living saved souls?
Matt 24:13

Not surprised you testify according to Catholic teaching...that your soul is NOT saved and you must endure and wait until the end of your physical life to see IF your soul is Worthy TO BE SAVED.

Matt 24:
[13] But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

So agree, that Scripture DOES APPLY TO YOU.

I on the other hand was taught according to Jesus’ teaching....that He Offered salvation of my living soul, BEFORE my bodily physical death, and I freely Accepted His Offering, THUS what APPLIES TO ME, does not APPLY to YOU.
What APPLIES to me, IS my living soul IS saved, and my spirit IS Quickened....
I don’t endure and wait to see what I already HAVE been given.

1 Cor 1:18
Eph 2:5

 

[theefaith]

Rest assured Christ is not the SOURCE behind this prayer to saints , to mary , to angels .
This is not of the SPIRIT of CHRIST , but of men and of Anti Christ . Many know not what spirit they are truly of ......
I suggest we learn those bibles well and then shall one see clearly on how to test the Spirits . For many decieivers
have invaded the christain realm , appearing as men of righteousness , Yet leading many astray through the doctrines and traditions
of men gone wrong .
Thee faith . MANY will wail on the DAY of the LORD , truly wishing they had learned JESUS and wishin so hard
they had not been allured by the deceptoins of men . But on that day , IT WILL Be too late .
Hurry thee faith , and dont look back . Nose in bible , learn bible well . Hurry , dont wait and do not hesistate
for no man knows their last day upon this earth .

All grace and truth come from Christ Jn 1:16-17

 

[theefaith]

NO the CC opposes the very doctrines of Christ and of the apostels , YET claims it follows them . IT DONT .
And until you get back into that bible and learn diligently , you will just keep on believing what your men have long
decieved you all with . Thee faith , NOSE IN BIBLE and HURRY . TIME is indeed running out . HURRY thee faith
and dont look back . Nose in that bibile and learn it well .

not possible
The truth is revealed by Christ to his church of the apostles

 

[theefaith]

Your intent is already established, when you make Mary equal with Jesus.



Joseph’s brothers didn’t FIRST make Joseph equal to God, and THEN bow down to Joseph.

never made her equal
Jesus is God Mary is not
Jesus is by nature!
Mary is by grace!

 

[Taken]

there are no living saved souls?

Why do you make statements of your belief with a question mark?
Weird.

Yes there are Saved Living souls...alive in their natural body...called saints.....and Saved Living souls departed out of their dead natural body; called saints.

Eve was the mother of the living in the first creation!
The new creation demands a new mother of the living!
Eve was the first Eve, a new Adam demands a new Eve!
Rachel was the spiritual mother of the old covenant.
The new covenant demands a new spiritual mother!

Eve was the first Female, and first Mother of Earthly mankind.

The NEW COVENANT REVEALS a new birth Delivered forth out from Gods MOUTH...

Isa 55:
[11] So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

WHAT was that thing, where to God SENT His Word?
Mary’s VIRGIN Womb.

WHAT was that thing, in Mary’s VIRGIN Womb called?
A “HOLY THING”.

Luke 1:
[35] And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

30 Years AFTER that holy thing was Revealed ON EARTH...The prophecy of WHAT that holy thing WOULD be called....came to pass....

The Sorrows and Birth Pangs is UPON ISRAEL and the ENTIRE EARTH.
THE DELIVERY IS VIA Gods POWER...
THE DELIVERY IS OF Gods People. (Being temporarily blinded)
THE DELIVERY IS OF Gods Earth. (Being held in Corrupt abomination).

The FULFILLMENT of the MOTHER, SHE, HER IS ISRAEL, (Gods People).
And Gods ENTIRE EARTH....That has NOT YET occurred.

That has nothing to do with Mary.

 

[theefaith]

Your intent is already established, when you make Mary equal with Jesus.



Joseph’s brothers didn’t FIRST make Joseph equal to God, and THEN bow down to Joseph.

you said bowing down is automatically worship adoration!

 

[theefaith]

Not surprised you testify according to Catholic teaching...that your soul is NOT saved and you must endure and wait until the end of your physical life to see IF your soul is Worthy TO BE SAVED.

Matt 24:
[13] But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

So agree, that Scripture DOES APPLY TO YOU.

I on the other hand was taught according to Jesus’ teaching....that He Offered salvation of my living soul, BEFORE my bodily physical death, and I freely Accepted His Offering, THUS what APPLIES TO ME, does not APPLY to YOU.
What APPLIES to me, IS my living soul IS saved, and my spirit IS Quickened....
I don’t endure and wait to see what I already HAVE been given.

1 Cor 1:18
Eph 2:5

there can only be ONE church and One truth revealed by Christ and taught by his church of the apostles
Jude 1:3 eph 4:5 and Matt 28:19-20

not saved!

matt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Matthew 10:22
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

Mark 13:13
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Rev 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

Heb 3:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;

Heb 6:11 And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end:

1. Romans 11:22 – God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness

2. Colossians 1:21-23 – holy and blameless, if you continue in the faith"

3. The race of faith: the example of Paul

4. Hebrews 12:22-25: "we shall not escape if we turn away from Him"

5. Hebrews 4:1-3, 9-12: "strive to enter the rest of God"

6.Hebrews 6:4-9 – those who became partakers of the holy spirit and fell away

7. Hebrews 10:23-29, 35-39: "if we sin willfully", "if anyone draws back".

8. Matthew 24:13: He that endures to the end, the same shall be saved

9. Hebrews 3:4-6: Holding fast our confidence firm until the end

10. Matthew 24:13: "But the one who endures to the end will be saved"

11. 1 John 2:24-25 – "if what you heard from the beginning abides in you"

12. 2 John 8-9 : to "everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ

13. 2 Peter 1:5-11 : "Make every effort to supplement your faith"

14. Philippians 2:12-16: "work out your salvation with fear and trembling"

15. 1 Timothy 6:10-16: the love of money

16. Galatians 5:2-4 "Severed from Christ"

17. 2 Timothy 2:11-13: "if we deny him, he will also deny us"

18. James 5:19-20: the wandered brother

19. Some will abandon the faith

20. 1 Timothy 5:8: "he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever"

22. The real family of Jesus: "Those who hear the Word of God and do it"

23. 1 Corinthians 5:5: "so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord"

24. Peter 2: "It would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness"

25. Jude: "Turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness" - a much relevant warning

26. 1 Cor. 9:27 ....Lest I myself might become a castaway

And you can always reject Christ! are you still saved?

2 Timothy 2:12
If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:

how can you be saved yet not go to heaven?

Romans 8:17
And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

quote saved; yet not willing to suffer with Christ !

 

[Bob Carabbio]

So you are accusing Christ of teaching “garbage”???

Nope, just Roman Catholics and their foolish "Traditions".

 

[theefaith]

Why do you make statements of your belief with a question mark?
Weird.

asking is that’s you’re question

Yes there are Saved Living souls...alive in their natural body...called saints.....and Saved Living souls departed out of their dead natural body; called saints.



Eve was the first Female, and first Mother of Earthly mankind.

The NEW COVENANT REVEALS a new birth Delivered forth out from Gods MOUTH...

Isa 55:
[11] So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

WHAT was that thing, where to God SENT His Word?
Mary’s VIRGIN Womb.

WHAT was that thing, in Mary’s VIRGIN Womb called?
A “HOLY THING”.

Luke 1:
[35] And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

30 Years AFTER that holy thing was Revealed ON EARTH...The prophecy of WHAT that holy thing WOULD be called....came to pass....

The Sorrows and Birth Pangs is UPON ISRAEL and the ENTIRE EARTH.
THE DELIVERY IS VIA Gods POWER...
THE DELIVERY IS OF Gods People. (Being temporarily blinded)
THE DELIVERY IS OF Gods Earth. (Being held in Corrupt abomination).

The FULFILLMENT of the MOTHER, SHE, HER IS ISRAEL, (Gods People).
And Gods ENTIRE EARTH....That has NOT YET occurred.

That has nothing to do with Mary.

 

[theefaith]

Nope, just Roman Catholics and their foolish "Traditions".

Christ founded the church so to accuse the church is to accuse Christ!

Christ and His apostolic church are one!
Matt 5:14
Jn 15:1
Acts 9:4
eph 5:32
1 Tim 3:15

 

[Moriah's Song]

is she not all powerful?

Uh, yeah you did say it! Check out my post #725. That was your response to what I had written.

 

[amigo de christo]

All grace and truth come from Christ Jn 1:16-17

Yes we know that . THE CC does not truly know this .

 

[theefaith]

Uh, yeah you did say it! Check out my post #725. That was your response to what I had written.

yes! Mary is all-powerful!

I also explained it!

Mary ever virgin, mother of God, is all powerful!

I did not say “how it is” or by what means she is all powerful!

I did not say it was cos she is God!

Mary’s prayers are all powerful not cos she is God but because her son is God!

and on becoming man He (Jesus) obeyed his own commandments

you might check out the one that says “honor Thy father and mother”

even the time set by almighty God for the public ministry of Christ had not come, Jesus Christ performed the miracle cos his mother interceded, thus a higher law, “honor thy father and mother” if ANYONE else asked it would NOT have been done!
John 2

and cos of her intercession the disciples believed in Him!
Jn 2:11

she is powerful by grace Jn 15:5

even Paul claimed to be all powerful not by nature but by the grace of God! And she is full of grace! Lk 1:28

Phil 4:13

does that make him God!