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Dust returns to Dust.
WHEN does the Life IN the SOUL Return to God?
You say, WHEN the BODY dies.
Seems YOU DID NOT LEARN the TRUTH that Scripture "and" JESUS REVEALED...
Living souls have been DEPARTING Dead and Dying Bodies, since the beginning.
Bodies that had a Living soul IN THEM, and the WHAT the Living Souls departs, is a DEAD BODY!
The Body was DEAD...and BURIED.
The LIVING SOUL...went to Hell.
IN Hell...was a great FIXED GULF.
On One side of the GULF...was Paradise
...the Saved Souls
...the Souls in Comfort
...the Souls of the Faithful
...the souls with Gods Life, AND with God.
...Paradise
On the Other side was...Misery & Torment.
...the Unsaved souls.
...the souls without comfort
...the souls of the unfaithful
...the souls with Gods life, but without God
...Hell
Luke 16
26] And beside all this, between us and you there is agreat gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
Gen 25
[7] And these are the days of the years of Abraham's life which he lived, an hundred threescore and fifteen years.
[8] Then Abraham gave up the ghost, and died in a good old age, an old man, and full of years; and was gathered to his people.
[9] And his sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave of Machpelah, in the field of Ephron the son of Zohar the Hittite, which is before Mamre;
Abraham...BODY Dead. BODY BURIED
Abraham ..gave up the ghost (spirit),
...............returned to God.
Abraham...WHERE WAS HIS DEPARTED ................SOUL?
You should have Learned...WHEN the BODY of a man DIES...the QUICKENED spirit of man is what IMMEDIATELY returns to God (who gave it.)
NOT ALL receive A QUICKENED SPIRIT.
Luke 23
[46] And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.
Acts 7
59] And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.
Abraham's LIVING SOUL...
Luke 16
[19] There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
[20] And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
[21] And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
[22] And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
[23] And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
[24] And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
[25] But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
[26] And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
If you had read AND understood...
Dead bodies are buried by men, in the ground.
Living souls depart dead bodies.
(The breath of life does not depart the soul.)
Living (unsaved) souls go to hell, wait in torment, separated from God.
Living (saved) souls went to the comfort side of hell...WAITING until Jesus' soul went to hell.......AND LEFT Hell....
thereafter..
Departed (SAVED) Living souls, go to Heaven.
(Not only the life in the soul...the saved living soul goes to Heaven)
Departed QUICKENED SPIRITS, go to Gods Hands, as the body is DYING.
And did YOU LEARN...While their Bodies were Buried....their Living souls IN HELL, were seeing, talking, feeling, smelling, etc. ?
Plenty of Scriptures NOTIFY me:
The Body,
The Soul,
The Spirit,
Are THREE DIFFERENT THINGS, that ALL have to do with the,
ONE "CREATED and MADE" THING A MAN....and called by A NAME.
"CREATED and MADE"...two different things.
Gen 2
[3] And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
God Created MAN (BODY) "and" then "MADE" that Body Living.
1 Thes 5:
[23] ... you wholly; ...
spirit and soul and body
man becomes a living soul. When the breath of "life returns to God" Who gave it, life ceases. the body dies, and reverts back to its original composition...mud.
Dust returns to Dust.
WHEN does the Life IN the SOUL Return to God?
You say, WHEN the BODY dies.
Seems YOU DID NOT LEARN the TRUTH that Scripture "and" JESUS REVEALED...
Living souls have been DEPARTING Dead and Dying Bodies, since the beginning.
Bodies that had a Living soul IN THEM, and the WHAT the Living Souls departs, is a DEAD BODY!
The Body was DEAD...and BURIED.
The LIVING SOUL...went to Hell.
IN Hell...was a great FIXED GULF.
On One side of the GULF...was Paradise
...the Saved Souls
...the Souls in Comfort
...the Souls of the Faithful
...the souls with Gods Life, AND with God.
...Paradise
On the Other side was...Misery & Torment.
...the Unsaved souls.
...the souls without comfort
...the souls of the unfaithful
...the souls with Gods life, but without God
...Hell
Luke 16
26] And beside all this, between us and you there is agreat gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
Gen 25
[7] And these are the days of the years of Abraham's life which he lived, an hundred threescore and fifteen years.
[8] Then Abraham gave up the ghost, and died in a good old age, an old man, and full of years; and was gathered to his people.
[9] And his sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave of Machpelah, in the field of Ephron the son of Zohar the Hittite, which is before Mamre;
Abraham...BODY Dead. BODY BURIED
Abraham ..gave up the ghost (spirit),
...............returned to God.
Abraham...WHERE WAS HIS DEPARTED ................SOUL?
You should have Learned...WHEN the BODY of a man DIES...the QUICKENED spirit of man is what IMMEDIATELY returns to God (who gave it.)
NOT ALL receive A QUICKENED SPIRIT.
Luke 23
[46] And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.
Acts 7
59] And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.
Abraham's LIVING SOUL...
Luke 16
[19] There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
[20] And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
[21] And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
[22] And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
[23] And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
[24] And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
[25] But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
[26] And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
If you had read AND understood...
Dead bodies are buried by men, in the ground.
Living souls depart dead bodies.
(The breath of life does not depart the soul.)
Living (unsaved) souls go to hell, wait in torment, separated from God.
Living (saved) souls went to the comfort side of hell...WAITING until Jesus' soul went to hell.......AND LEFT Hell....
thereafter..
Departed (SAVED) Living souls, go to Heaven.
(Not only the life in the soul...the saved living soul goes to Heaven)
Departed QUICKENED SPIRITS, go to Gods Hands, as the body is DYING.
And did YOU LEARN...While their Bodies were Buried....their Living souls IN HELL, were seeing, talking, feeling, smelling, etc. ?
But now right here is where you jump to an enormous supposition which scripture no where hints at.
Plenty of Scriptures NOTIFY me:
The Body,
The Soul,
The Spirit,
Are THREE DIFFERENT THINGS, that ALL have to do with the,
ONE "CREATED and MADE" THING A MAN....and called by A NAME.
"CREATED and MADE"...two different things.
Gen 2
[3] And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
God Created MAN (BODY) "and" then "MADE" that Body Living.
1 Thes 5:
[23] ... you wholly; ...
spirit and soul and body
How can a living soul go to heaven...go anywhere and enjoy anything, when that part of the human existence that feels, communicates, and senses, is now dust?
Souls did not come from dust. Nor do saved souls return to dust.
Body's come from dust and return to dust.
Living SOULS are sent.
Saved Living SOULS are carried by Angels.
Because you create in your own mind
Nope.
I LISTEN to what the Word of God says.
I LISTEN when MYSTERIES of God are REVEALED.
God CREATES....and then MAKES from what He CREATES, "changes" IN the things "HE" has CREATED and MADE. (According to HIS WILL).
the above assumption,
What you declare FOR ME, has NO AFFECT on me.
you must therefore make room for this one.
I "MUST" adopt, believe, "YOUR ASSUMPTIONS" ? Uh...No!
If saved souls are immortal,
Learn what MORTAL means...
Hint, hint.....REQUIRED TO DIE.
Where did I once say, SOULS are REQUIRED TO DIE? I didn't.
BODYS, are MORTAL, they are "REQUIRED" to DIE.
Gen 9
[5] And surely your blood of your lives will I require; ...
I require the life of man.
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