Who is the Queen of Heaven.

[Raccoon1010]

Happy birthday @Stan B, made it to 80.

 

[amadeus]

Yes, "the sins of the father are passed on to the third and fourth generation." And so is the faith of the father passed on to the third and fourth generation. I'm 80, today actually, and I have had the joy of seeing that in action.

"IF you seek Me, you will find Me."

Happy birthday, Stan!

 

[Stan B]

Don't tell AA atheists that, they tell them that a rock is their higher power. They have to have some form of higher power for the program to work. And rocks don't even move on their own or talk.

But hey maybe that's how pagan worship works. Just having a higher power gives a person hope.

BillW became a Christian, and that's when he got his life under control. I believe that his approach to embracing a higher power was perhaps based upon the promise, "If you seek Me, you will Find me". His job was only to get them seeking. ??

 

[Jim B]

Role given by marriage! Or because she is next in line for the throne! C'mon man this is second grade stuff!

There is absolutely nothing in the Bible that says that Mary is a queen, on earth or in heaven. It's a Catholic lie.

 

[Jim B]

I am not sure about mental illness but I agree about spiritual illness.

He is clearly delusional.

 

[Truther]

Happy birthday Stan

 

[Stan B]

There is absolutely nothing in the Bible that says that Mary is a queen, on earth or in heaven. It's a Catholic lie.

True. Mary was just a sinner like the rest of us, who rejoiced in God HER Saviour!!

Why would the Queen of Heaven need a saviour??

 

[Ronald Nolette]

There is absolutely nothing in the Bible that says that Mary is a queen, on earth or in heaven. It's a Catholic lie.

And they will Rev. 12 you to death saying that is Mary and not Israel.

 

[Truther]

He is clearly delusional.

Agreed.

The RCC cast a big shadow of clouding the mind.

"Once a Catholic always a Catholic", right or wrong.

 

[farouk]

What I find funny is calling Mary the Queen of heaven,. when it is a pagan goddess. Sorry people are just so uptight and argumentative. I try to find humor in life. Sorry if it offended you.

@Mantis Essential to remember 1 Timothy 2.5 about the Lord Jesus being the one Mediator, right?

 

[theefaith]

John 19:16b-17, "So they [the Roman soldiers] took Jesus, and carrying his own cross he went out to the place called “The Place of the Skull” (called in Aramaic Golgotha). There they [the Roman soldiers] crucified him along with two others, one on each side, with Jesus in the middle."

John 19:23, "Now when the soldiers crucified Jesus, they took his clothes and made four shares, one for each soldier, and the tunic remained."

It's too bad that you use a clear misinterpretation of Acts 2:36 to promote your Catholic lie. John, an eyewitness to the crucifixion, wrote who actually killed Jesus. The phrase in Acts identifies the unbelieving Jews as those responsible for Jesus' death (as was required by God), but it is a figure of speech. Unless John is lying, the Romans actually killed Him.

inconsequential who executed him, the Jew consented to his death!

 

[theefaith]

Okay then! The eight commandment says "you shall not steal". Since I haven't stolen anything why should I repent of my violation of the eighth commandment?

Did Mary tell you to write that nonsense?

the 8th is not to bear false witness

 

[theefaith]

There are no other people than Jews or Gentiles (no-Jews). The church has both Jews and Gentiles; always had since the time of the Apostles.

All are invited to the new covenant
Lk 2:10-11
Jn 1:29
Jn 3:16

 

[theefaith]

He is speaking to John directly! "Near the cross of Jesus stood his mother, his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to her, “Woman, here is your son,” and to the disciple, “Here is your mother.” From that time on, this disciple took her into his home."

John 13:23, " One of them, the disciple whom Jesus loved, was reclining next to him." This is John, nobody else.

Your writing "Jesus is not asking John to care for His mother, if so He would have said so, he is not even speaking to John, scripture says He is addressing the disciple, therefore it applies to all disciples." No it does not! He was speaking to one person" John.

As usual, you're not making any sense.

You contradict yourself immediately when you write, "Jesus is making Mary spiritual mother to all disciples! [nonsense!] And all disciples take Her into thier home [nonsense], And if the apostle John needs a spiritual mother so do we!" John needed to take care of Mary, not the other way around.

"He gave Mary to be the mother of one disciple then He does so for all disciples!" This is self-contradictory.

then why does not Jesus say so?

nowhere in the text does he say to John please care for my mother!

why does she need to become his mother just for him to care for her?

if Christ is giving us all “disciples” his own mother then he would give us anything!

 

[theefaith]

That does not refer to Mary as the comforter...


John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him(How do they "know" him?); for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you(Jesus is the one dwelling with them and that is how they know him).
John 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.(Jesus is come back to live in our hearts)

Think on this a bit...

Mark 3:32-33 And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee. And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?
Mark 3:34-35 And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.

mary is our spiritual mother and queen of heaven and earth!

the sovereign mistress of all the angels and saints!

 

[theefaith]

I'm not aware there is a Queen in heaven.

Rev 12:1

 

[theefaith]

I'm not aware there is a Queen in heaven.

Christ is king so there must be a queen!

Queen of Heaven!

Son of David the king: royalty!

Matt 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

Matt 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

Matthew 9:27
And when Jesus departed thence, two blind men followed him, crying, and saying, Thou son of David, have mercy on us.

Matt 12:23
Matt 15:22
Matt 20:30
Matt 20:31
Matt 21:9-15 etc.

Romans 1:3
Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

House of David the king:

Lk 1:27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.

Received the kingdom of David:

Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

Christ is King, Mary must be queen!

Only a queen can bear a king!

A Royal greeting!

Lk 1:28 is the only place in the Bible where such a greeting takes place!
Mary is of the tribe of Judah and the royal house of David the king!

God himself is greeting Mary thru the instrument of the angel Gabriel!

This is a Royal greeting of the queen of heaven and earth! Queen of the angels and saints! Mary is of the house of king David!

In the line of king David the mother of the king is the queen, as Jesus Christ is the king of heaven and earth and the angels and saints so Mary is the queen of the same! Lk 1:32-33

The mother of any king is automatically queen and rules half the kingdom!
The queen mother!

Lk 1:28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.

29 And when she had heard, she was troubled in his word, and thought what manner salutation this was.

30 And the angel said to her, Fear not, Mary, for thou hast found favor with God.

Mary is mother of mercy and the throne of grace!
heb 4:16

A good tree!

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation! Lk 2:30 Jesus is our salvation!
Lk 1:30 Mary found our salvation!

Queen of heaven
In the line of david’s kingdom the mother of the king is always queen!
Jesus is king Lk 1:32-33
And Jesus is the king of heaven & earth & all the angels & saints, so Mary is queen of heaven & earth & all the angels & saints!

so Mary too is the fruit of the merits, virtues, & graces provided by Christ! Lk 1:47 Mary also saved by God



2 Tim 2:8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

2 Tim 2: 21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work. How much more Mary who was prepared by God thru the immaculate conception! Lk 1:49

Heb 2:7

Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands

Rev12:1 woman clothed with the sun.
Crown of stars = queen Mary


David the king carried the ark to the earthly Jerusalem.
2 Sam 6:15-16

Jesus the new king carried His ark to the heavenly Jerusalem! Rev 12:1
(Assumption of Mary into heaven and crowned with glory!)
Inaugurating the kingdom!


1 kings 2:19 Bathsheba therefore went unto king Solomon, to speak unto him for Adonijah. And the king rose up to meet her, and bowed himself unto her, and sat down on his throne, and caused a seat to be set for the king's mother; and she sat on his right hand.

Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

Heb 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

ONLY A KING AND A QUEEN SIT ON A THRONE!

 

[theefaith]

Role given by marriage! Or because she is next in line for the throne! C'mon man this is second grade stuff!

Or cos she is the kings mother!

Queen of Heaven!

Son of David the king: royalty!

Matt 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

Matt 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

Matthew 9:27
And when Jesus departed thence, two blind men followed him, crying, and saying, Thou son of David, have mercy on us.

Matt 12:23
Matt 15:22
Matt 20:30
Matt 20:31
Matt 21:9-15 etc.

Romans 1:3
Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

House of David the king:

Lk 1:27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.

Received the kingdom of David:

Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

Christ is King, Mary must be queen!

Only a queen can bear a king!

A Royal greeting!

Lk 1:28 is the only place in the Bible where such a greeting takes place!
Mary is of the tribe of Judah and the royal house of David the king!

God himself is greeting Mary thru the instrument of the angel Gabriel!

This is a Royal greeting of the queen of heaven and earth! Queen of the angels and saints! Mary is of the house of king David!

In the line of king David the mother of the king is the queen, as Jesus Christ is the king of heaven and earth and the angels and saints so Mary is the queen of the same! Lk 1:32-33

The mother of any king is automatically queen and rules half the kingdom!
The queen mother!

Lk 1:28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.

29 And when she had heard, she was troubled in his word, and thought what manner salutation this was.

30 And the angel said to her, Fear not, Mary, for thou hast found favor with God.

Mary is mother of mercy and the throne of grace!
heb 4:16

A good tree!

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation! Lk 2:30 Jesus is our salvation!
Lk 1:30 Mary found our salvation!

Queen of heaven
In the line of david’s kingdom the mother of the king is always queen!
Jesus is king Lk 1:32-33
And Jesus is the king of heaven & earth & all the angels & saints, so Mary is queen of heaven & earth & all the angels & saints!

so Mary too is the fruit of the merits, virtues, & graces provided by Christ! Lk 1:47 Mary also saved by God



2 Tim 2:8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

2 Tim 2: 21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work. How much more Mary who was prepared by God thru the immaculate conception! Lk 1:49

Heb 2:7

Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands

Rev12:1 woman clothed with the sun.
Crown of stars = queen Mary


David the king carried the ark to the earthly Jerusalem.
2 Sam 6:15-16

Jesus the new king carried His ark to the heavenly Jerusalem! Rev 12:1
(Assumption of Mary into heaven and crowned with glory!)
Inaugurating the kingdom!


1 kings 2:19 Bathsheba therefore went unto king Solomon, to speak unto him for Adonijah. And the king rose up to meet her, and bowed himself unto her, and sat down on his throne, and caused a seat to be set for the king's mother; and she sat on his right hand.

Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

Heb 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

ONLY A KING AND A QUEEN SIT ON A THRONE!

 

[Mantis]

@Mantis Essential to remember 1 Timothy 2.5 about the Lord Jesus being the one Mediator, right?

Yes I think that we just need to cling to Jesus. He will do the work in us. We will sin and he will defend us. We need him, he is our mediator.

 

[EloyCraft]

Why would the Queen of Heaven need a saviour??

Because only her Son could open the door to His Kingdom. If He didn't do that there would be no heaven for any body and He wouldn't be our Savior or hers.