who is the false prophet in revelation

[Earburner]

Yes there is!

1Jo 2:18
¶
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

"antichristos" nominative SINGULAR masculine.

1 John 4:3
[3]And G2532 every G3956 spirit G4151 that G3739 confesseth G3670 not G3361 that Jesus G2424 Christ G5547 is come G2064 in G1722 the flesh G4561 is G2076 not G3756 of G1537 God: G2316 and G2532 this G5124 is G2076 that spirit of antichrist, G500* whereof G3739 ye have heard G191 that G3754 it should come; G2064 and even G2532 now G3568 already G2235 is it G2076 in G1722 the world. G2889
* Note:
Strong's Number - G500
Greek: ἀντίχριστος
Transliteration: antichristos
Pronunciation: an-tee'-khris-tos
Definition: From G473 and G5547; an opponent of the Messiah:** - antichrist.
KJV Usage: antichrist (5x).
Occurs: 5
In verses: 4
** Note: the word "an" implies any number or amount of antichrists, having "that spirit of antichrist" can be opponents of the Messiah.

Therefore, there is NOT going to be a singular, head honcho being, who is called "The Antichrist", who will be greater than all other antichrists.
Because of the words "spirit of antichrist", we are being told that there will be many antichrists- plural.

 

[Earburner]

I am having trouble reconciling this:
Luk 6:35
But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.

And Ezekiel chapter 9.

Eze 9:3
And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed with linen, which had the writer's inkhorn by his side;
Eze 9:4
And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.
Eze 9:5
And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:
Eze 9:6
Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.
Eze 9:7
And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city.
Eze 9:8
And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem?
Eze 9:9
Then said he unto me, The iniquity of the house of Israel and Judah is exceeding great, and the land is full of blood, and the city full of perverseness: for they say, The LORD hath forsaken the earth, and the LORD seeth not.
Eze 9:10
And as for me also, mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity, but I will recompense their way upon their head.
Eze 9:11
And, behold, the man clothed with linen, which had the inkhorn by his side, reported the matter, saying, I have done as thou hast commanded me.

And:
Luk 18:16
But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.

And:
Mat 9:13
But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Little children, it is the last time... 1John 2:18

Ecc 3:1
To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
Ecc 3:2
A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
Ecc 3:3
A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
Ecc 3:4
A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
Ecc 3:5
A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
Ecc 3:6
A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
Ecc 3:7
A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
Ecc 3:8
A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.

Again:
Rev 20:4
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Eze 9:4
And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.
Eze 9:6
Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.

Reconcile?

Jas 3:12
Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.

Jhn 14:30 — Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

Jhn 12:31
Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
Jhn 16:11
Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
Luk 22:53
When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.
2Co 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Mal 3:6
For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

I think there is a lot we still do not understand. The OT is hard as stone. The NT is soft and easy to bare.
Men bring wars upon themselves through their greed and lust for power.

In one place, men are marked and spared. In another place men are marked and slaughtered.
Which one is false?

Reconcile?

Hugs

When God declares who shall be marked (by the "seal" of God), they are of God. Romans 8:9.

However, when the "Image of the beast" "causes" that all should be marked (by the 10H beast's identification of economic compliance), they who do comply, will be of satan. Rev. 13
[15] And he [2HB] had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, AND cause that as many as would not worship [comply with] the image of the beast should be killed.
[16] And he [the Image] causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
[17] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

 

[Ziggy]

When God declares who shall be marked (by the "seal" of God), they are of God. Romans 8:9.

However, when the "Image of the beast" "causes" that all should be marked (by the 10H beast's identification of economic compliance), they who do comply, will be of satan. Rev. 13
[15] And he [2HB] had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, AND cause that as many as would not worship [comply with] the image of the beast should be killed.
[16] And he [the Image] causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
[17] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

How is it that this 2HB had power to give life?
Thank You
Hugs

 

[Ziggy]

Rev 13:15
And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Rev 13:2
And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

The dragon gave him his power.... I thought the "power" of the dragon was death not life?
Where did the dragon get this power?

looking at "power"

Gen 32:28
And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.

prince of power....
Lev 26:19
And I will break the pride of your power; and I will make your heaven as iron, and your earth as brass:
Lev 26:20
And your strength shall be spent in vain: for your land shall not yield her increase, neither shall the trees of the land yield their fruits.
Lev 26:21
And if ye walk contrary unto me, and will not hearken unto me; I will bring seven times more plagues upon you according to your sins.

1Ch 29:11
Thine, O LORD, is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all that is in the heaven and in the earth is thine; thine is the kingdom, O LORD, and thou art exalted as head above all.

Rev 17:12
And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
Rev 17:13
These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

One hour:
Luk 22:53
When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.

power of darkness comes from?
Gen 1:2
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Gen 1:3
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Gen 1:4
And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

darkness: ignorance, hostility, void of understanding

who are the ten who are given power as kings? And what power does a king wield?
To make laws and decrees, to execute punishments...
And there are ten of these that give their power to the one.

They are confederate. In agreement against God.

Dan 7:23
Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
Dan 7:24
And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
Dan 7:25
And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
Dan 7:26
But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

Mar 13:14
But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

Dan 7:26
But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
Luk 4:5
And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
Luk 4:6
And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.
Luk 4:7
If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.

I wonder if the book of Revelation shouldn't be placed before the gospels. As if it is "standing" in a place where it aught not.

This is not to say that it doesn't relate to us today, but perhaps was also prophesied for Jesus' Day.

We still live under Rome spiritually speaking. This world system we have is getting more aggressive every day.
And most of the "Leaders" of the world are confederate with this New World Order.

The power given to Israel to lead people to the Holy Land was taken away and given to another.
The parable of the two sons.
Mat 21:28
But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard.
Mat 21:29
He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went.
Mat 21:30
And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I go, sir: and went not.
Mat 21:31
Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.
Mat 21:32
For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him.

So the first son represented by publicans and harlots, sinners, repented and returned to God.
The second son represented by the self righteous, the Pharisees, the "System" which said would go, did not.

I think the book of Revelation tells about the System Jesus was being born into at the time.
Israel/Old Jerusalem was given power to lead the people to spiritual liberty and the forgiveness of sins. Salvation.
But they became too bold and too prideful and they last the way.
And if you did not adhere to the "laws" if you did not receive this "mark" you would be killed.
At the same time there is Rome rising. The 2HB also with laws that could mark you for slaughter.
And these two at times were confederate. Rome chose who sat in the seats of the religious authorities.
But which one was giving the other the "power" to live?

Rome could of snuffed them out like a candle, but they kept them on because?????

We need to burn brighter. We are losing the light.
God always seems to show up at desperate times. I just hope things don't become too desperate.

Thank you for listening.
:)
Hugs

 

[Earburner]

How is it that this 2HB had power to give life?
Thank You
Hugs

Only God has the power and ability to create life. Knowing this, we all you should step back a click and realize that if a Beast system of self governance is revealed to give something that shall have life, then the type of life it shall receive will not be like that of a literal living creature of any kind, that is created by God.

So then let's look at the scriptures of
Rev. 13
[11] And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
[12] And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
[13] And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
[14] And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to THEM that dwell on the earth, that THEY should MAKE an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
[15] And he [2HB] had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Now, since the image of the 10HB can never be a literal living, breathing creature, that only God can "make", then we must discern just exactly what KIND of life that is given to the Image of what the people of the world have MADE.
Suggestions:
1. a robot.
2. a statue.
3. a holographic image.
4. a political power that "causes" laws and legislation over all people, such as the UN.

The 2HB, being an independent governing power of itself, is only capable of giving that which itself has, being that of political life to the Image, having the authority that it also should KILL people.

The answer to the above is: #4.

 

[Davy]

I'll say it again...

If one believes that ANY flesh-born man is already JUDGED and SENTENCED to perdition (destruction) in the future "lake of fire", then they do NOT believe in The GOD of The Bible.

The "false prophet" goes into perdition in the "lake of fire" on the day of Jesus' future return, as written in Revelation 19. That is PRIOR to God's Great White Throne Judgment.

The "lake of fire" is NOT the abode of the wicked called 'hell', if that is what some are wrongly thinking.

The future "lake of fire" is when the abode of hell, Satan, and the wicked, and death, all go into that "lake of fire" and is destroyed, and is at the future END of Christ's "thousand years" reign of Rev.20.

The reason why NONE of us do not KNOW who all will go into that future "lake of fire", except for Satan and his servants, is because ALL UNSAVED FLESH-BORN MUST FIRST BE JUDGED AT THE GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGEMENT. Only then... are those who still reject The Father and The Son are judged and sentenced to perish.

Because... of this, the "false prophet" MUST BE A ROLE THE PSEUDO-MESSIAH PLAYS THAT IS DESTROYED AT CHRIST'S COMING, JUST AS THE BEAST-KINGDOM ALSO IS DESTROYED AT CHRIST'S COMING.

 

[Earburner]

I'll say it again...

If one believes that ANY flesh-born man is already JUDGED and SENTENCED to perdition (destruction) in the future "lake of fire", then they do NOT believe in The GOD of The Bible.

The "false prophet" goes into perdition in the "lake of fire" on the day of Jesus' future return, as written in Revelation 19. That is PRIOR to God's Great White Throne Judgment.

The "lake of fire" is NOT the abode of the wicked called 'hell', if that is what some are wrongly thinking.

The future "lake of fire" is when the abode of hell, Satan, and the wicked, and death, all go into that "lake of fire" and is destroyed, and is at the future END of Christ's "thousand years" reign of Rev.20.

The reason why NONE of us do not KNOW who all will go into that future "lake of fire", except for Satan and his servants, is because ALL UNSAVED FLESH-BORN MUST FIRST BE JUDGED AT THE GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGEMENT. Only then... are those who still reject The Father and The Son are judged and sentenced to perish.

Because... of this, the "false prophet" MUST BE A ROLE THE PSEUDO-MESSIAH PLAYS THAT IS DESTROYED AT CHRIST'S COMING, JUST AS THE BEAST-KINGDOM ALSO IS DESTROYED AT CHRIST'S COMING.

God the Father has issued two judgments towards people.
1. Eternal death through Adam.
2. Eternal life through Jesus.
John 3:
[18] He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, BECAUSE he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Rom. 8:8-9
[8] So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
[9] But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

The words: "The Antichrist" will not be found strung together in the KJV.

In fact, when one studies KJV 2 Thes. 2:8 in comparison to the Textus Receptus Greek, they will discover that an error was made in the translation of the Greek into the English.
KJV English: [8] And then shall that Wicked [singular] be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
TR Greek: [8] And then shall the wicked [plural] be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

The context of KJV Thes. 2:3-10 is in the plural, and therefore altogether should be read and understood in the plural, and not in the singular.

By correctly transposing the word "that" for "the", as it is correctly found in the Greek, the plurality of the context allows the "w" of the word "wicked" to remain in the lower case, and not to purposely change it to the upper case "W" of the word "Wicked", which erroneously implies the singular.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

1 John 4:3
[3]And G2532 every G3956 spirit G4151 that G3739 confesseth G3670 not G3361 that Jesus G2424 Christ G5547 is come G2064 in G1722 the flesh G4561 is G2076 not G3756 of G1537 God: G2316 and G2532 this G5124 is G2076 that spirit of antichrist, G500* whereof G3739 ye have heard G191 that G3754 it should come; G2064 and even G2532 now G3568 already G2235 is it G2076 in G1722 the world. G2889
* Note:
Strong's Number - G500
Greek: ἀντίχριστος
Transliteration: antichristos
Pronunciation: an-tee'-khris-tos
Definition: From G473 and G5547; an opponent of the Messiah:** - antichrist.
KJV Usage: antichrist (5x).
Occurs: 5
In verses: 4
** Note: the word "an" implies any number or amount of antichrists, having "that spirit of antichrist" can be opponents of the Messiah.

Therefore, there is NOT going to be a singular, head honcho being, who is called "The Antichrist", who will be greater than all other antichrists.
Because of the words "spirit of antichrist", we are being told that there will be many antichrists- plural.

Wrong again! You are using a verse that describes the spirit of antichirst and not THE antichrist John spoke of!

There are many antiochrists running around and many people have the spirit of antichrist (belief and attitude) but there still is THE Antichrist, a unique special individual as Jesus, Paul< john wrote about in many places using many names otr describe HIM>

 

[Earburner]

Wrong again! You are using a verse that describes the spirit of antichirst and not THE antichrist John spoke of!

There are many antiochrists running around and many people have the spirit of antichrist (belief and attitude) but there still is THE Antichrist, a unique special individual as Jesus, Paul< john wrote about in many places using many names otr describe HIM>

Not wrong at all! "That spirit of antichrist" is plural.
"The man of sin", aka "the natural man", meaning in the plural, "the wicked", being all of the unsaved, the "condemned already", who do not have the Spirit of Christ, and therefore are "none of His".
Don't let "church-ianity" corrupt you!

 

[Davy]

God the Father has issued two judgments towards people.
1. Eternal death through Adam.
2. Eternal life through Jesus.
John 3:
[18] He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, BECAUSE he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Rom. 8:8-9
[8] So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
[9] But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

The words: "The Antichrist" will not be found strung together in the KJV.

In fact, when one studies KJV 2 Thes. 2:8 in comparison to the Textus Receptus Greek, they will discover that an error was made in the translation of the Greek into the English.
KJV English: [8] And then shall that Wicked [singular] be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
TR Greek: [8] And then shall the wicked [plural] be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

The context of KJV Thes. 2:3-10 is in the plural, and therefore altogether should be read and understood in the plural, and not in the singular.

By correctly transposing the word "that" for "the", as it is correctly found in the Greek, the plurality of the context allows the "w" of the word "wicked" to remain in the lower case, and not to purposely change it to the upper case "W" of the word "Wicked", which erroneously implies the singular.

Find me IN GOD'S WRITTEN WORD, where anyone other than Satan and his angels are already 'today' judged and sentenced to perish at the future "lake of fire" of Rev.20.

 

[Earburner]

Find me IN GOD'S WRITTEN WORD, where anyone other than Satan and his angels are already 'today' judged and sentenced to perish at the future "lake of fire" of Rev.20.

[10] And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where [the kingdom of] the beast and [the kingdom of] the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
[14] And death and hell [the graves of the unsaved] were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
[15] And [also] whosoever [is alive, and] was NOT found written in the book of life [who is Jesus] was cast into the lake of fire. Rom. 8:9.

The only ones to suffer eternal torment in the lake of fire is the Devil and his fallen angels. All else will burned up, including this earth.

 

[Davy]

[10] And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where [the kingdom of] the beast and [the kingdom of] the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
[14] And death and hell [the graves of the unsaved] were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
[15] And [also] whosoever [is alive, and] was NOT found written in the book of life [who is Jesus] was cast into the lake of fire. Rom. 8:9.

The only ones to suffer eternal torment in the lake of fire is the Devil and his fallen angels. All else will burned up, including this earth.

You failed to answer my question. All you did was just throw up Scripture as fodder which is about after the future Great White Throne Judgment to determine who will go into the "lake of fire", and won't only be Satan and his angels going into that future "lake of fire" either...

Rev 20:12-15
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
KJV


Now then, MY QUESTION AGAIN:

Show me in God's Word where any flesh born man TODAY IS ALREADY judged and sentenced to perish in the future "lake of fire"??

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Not wrong at all! "That spirit of antichrist" is plural.
"The man of sin", aka "the natural man", meaning in the plural, "the wicked", being all of the unsaved, the "condemned already", who do not have the Spirit of Christ, and therefore are "none of His".
Don't let "church-ianity" corrupt you!

Sorry, but take a look at the original Greek and you will see that "spirit of antichrist" is genitive singular masculine.

The man of sin is not the natural man of Romans 8. those are talking about two different things.

"Churchianity"? Sorry but if I let my theology be influenced by the common belief in the churches, I would be leaning more towards your stuff.

 

[Earburner]

You failed to answer my question. All you did was just throw up Scripture as fodder which is about after the future Great White Throne Judgment to determine who will go into the "lake of fire", and won't only be Satan and his angels going into that future "lake of fire" either...

Rev 20:12-15
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
KJV


Now then, MY QUESTION AGAIN:

Show me in God's Word where any flesh born man TODAY IS ALREADY judged and sentenced to perish in the future "lake of fire"??

I already did, in John 3:18 and Rom. 8:9.
But, since you don't seem to understand how both of God's judgments of eternal death and/or eternal life are carried out 100%, upon the day of one's own mortal death, I had to show it from Rev. 20.
Apparently you are not seeing it from there either.
Maybe 1 John 5:12-13 will help.

Edit: for example, Judas Iscarriot.
Mark 14[21] The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had never been born.

 

[Earburner]

Sorry, but take a look at the original Greek and you will see that "spirit of antichrist" is genitive singular masculine.

The man of sin is not the natural man of Romans 8. those are talking about two different things.

"Churchianity"? Sorry but if I let my theology be influenced by the common belief in the churches, I would be leaning more towards your stuff.

Church-ianity does not follow or promote that which I have revealed. They most assuredly do believe in a "one man band, miracle man", as you do.
There is no one singular person to come, that they and you love to call "THE Antichrist".

 

[Earburner]

Sorry, but take a look at the original Greek and you will see that "spirit of antichrist" is genitive singular masculine.

The man of sin is not the natural man of Romans 8. those are talking about two different things.

If "many antichrists", who are individuals, are grouped together in a room, how many will have "that spirit of antichrist"?
Ans. All of them. Each will have "that spirit of antichrist"

 

[Davy]

I already did, in John 3:18 and Rom. 8:9.

More fodder on you part, because John 3:18 does NOT tell us about anyone born in this world that will perish in the future "lake of fire". So that's STRIKE 1.

Nor does Romans 8:9 reveal anyone born in this world is already judged and sentenced to perish in that future "lake of fire". STRIKE 2.

Those Scriptures ONLY reveal there will be... some... that perish, but it DOES NOT show anyone born in this world having ALREADY been judged and sentenced to perish. The ONLY ones God's Word tells... us that are ALREADY judged and sentenced to perish in the future "lake of fire" is the devil and his angels. No one else has yet.

And by that... we KNOW not any born in this world will be... Judged and Sentenced to perish in the future "lake of fire" until AFTER God's Great White Throne Judgment at the END of Christ's future "thousand years" reign of Rev.20.

And I am certain... you well know this, but you are just being obstinate against The Word of God. STRIKE 3, YOU'RE OUT.

 

[amigo de christo]

i think islam is 10 horns.

The main warning from JESUS was beware of wolves that come in SHEEPS clothing .
The muslims dont claim CHRIST as HE IS
but i know many WITHIN christendom that DO claim Christ and yet present another go spell another jesus .
Folks keep looking to those without when they should remember WHO EVEN BETRAYED JESUS .
ONE of his followers . IT CAME FROM WITHIN , the betrayer of the lambs COMES FROM WITHIN .

 

[amigo de christo]

I am having trouble reconciling this:
Luk 6:35
But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.

And Ezekiel chapter 9.

Eze 9:3
And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed with linen, which had the writer's inkhorn by his side;
Eze 9:4
And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.
Eze 9:5
And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:
Eze 9:6
Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.
Eze 9:7
And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city.
Eze 9:8
And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem?
Eze 9:9
Then said he unto me, The iniquity of the house of Israel and Judah is exceeding great, and the land is full of blood, and the city full of perverseness: for they say, The LORD hath forsaken the earth, and the LORD seeth not.
Eze 9:10
And as for me also, mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity, but I will recompense their way upon their head.
Eze 9:11
And, behold, the man clothed with linen, which had the inkhorn by his side, reported the matter, saying, I have done as thou hast commanded me.

And:
Luk 18:16
But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.

And:
Mat 9:13
But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Little children, it is the last time... 1John 2:18

Ecc 3:1
To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
Ecc 3:2
A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
Ecc 3:3
A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
Ecc 3:4
A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
Ecc 3:5
A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
Ecc 3:6
A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
Ecc 3:7
A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
Ecc 3:8
A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.

Again:
Rev 20:4
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Eze 9:4
And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.
Eze 9:6
Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.

Reconcile?

Jas 3:12
Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.

Jhn 14:30 — Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

Jhn 12:31
Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
Jhn 16:11
Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
Luk 22:53
When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.
2Co 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Mal 3:6
For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

I think there is a lot we still do not understand. The OT is hard as stone. The NT is soft and easy to bare.
Men bring wars upon themselves through their greed and lust for power.

In one place, men are marked and spared. In another place men are marked and slaughtered.
Which one is false?

Reconcile?

Hugs

The ones that are marked for death by GOD are the false ones . GOD marks the lambs , he seals the lambs
But the lawless one marks the unstable and their loyalty is unto any image of GOD that allows and pratices lawlessness .
Beware for the spirit of lawlessness has long entered and transformed even churches from within .
YE shall know them by THEIR LOVE . Any love that contradicts the truth of GOD and would honor or accept sins
IS OF THE LAWLESS ONE . The lawless one who is and yet is not and yet is and has been of the seven
and has been in the garden of eden has not been sleeping . CLING TO CHRIST and march on in the LORD ziggy .

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Church-ianity does not follow or promote that which I have revealed. They most assuredly do believe in a "one man band, miracle man", as you do.
There is no one singular person to come, that they and you love to call "THE Antichrist".

YOu do not know churchianity very well . Teh man of sin being a single person is th eminority position in believing churches as well as luke warm and dead churches. Most of "churchianity " follows your line of thinking either in most or part.

Which you have revealed? do you fancy yourself a modern day Isaiah, or Joel or Ezekiel of Apostle JOhn?