Who Created God

[TigersPaw]

I decided to create this topic.
Atheist love this topic as well as it digs at the soul of the creators intent to create.
We do not know where God came from the Bible doesn't tell us this.
However it may not matter. I will wait and give my own theories later on.
This is not a topic to debate if God exists. This is one to look at how did God come to be?

 

[Holy999]

probably god is energy molecule mass eternal energy and his will in this dimension creates reality. step by step.

 

[Taken]

Who Created God

A created “thing” has a beginning.

God has no beginning, thus does not qualify as having been created.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

Pisteuo ~

God bless you.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Jay Ross]

Hello,

From my understanding of Genesis 1:1, and the meaning of H:7225, " בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית " I believe that this verse should be paraphrased as:

Genesis 1:1, First, God created the entities of the Heavens and the Earth.​

" בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית " is also found in these five verses: -

Englishman's Concordance​

bə·rê·šîṯ — 5 Occurrences​

Genesis 1:1
HEB: בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים
NAS: In the beginning God created
KJV: In the beginning God created
INT: in the beginning created God​

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Jeremiah 26:1
HEB: בְּרֵאשִׁ֗ית מַמְלְכ֛וּת יְהוֹיָקִ֥ים
NAS: In the beginning of the reign
KJV: In the beginning of the reign
INT: the beginning of the reign of Jehoiakim​

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Jeremiah 27:1
HEB: בְּרֵאשִׁ֗ית מַמְלֶ֛כֶת יְהוֹיָקִ֥ם
NAS: In the beginning of the reign
KJV: In the beginning of the reign
INT: the beginning of the reign of Jehoiakim​

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Jeremiah 28:1
HEB: בַּשָּׁנָ֣ה הַהִ֗יא בְּרֵאשִׁית֙ מַמְלֶ֙כֶת֙ צִדְקִיָּ֣ה
NAS: year, in the beginning of the reign
KJV: And it came to pass the same year, in the beginning of the reign
INT: year the same the beginning of the reign of Zedekiah​

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Jeremiah 49:34
HEB: אֶל־ עֵילָ֑ם בְּרֵאשִׁ֗ית מַלְכ֛וּת צִדְקִיָּ֥ה
NAS: Elam, at the beginning of the reign
KJV: against Elam in the beginning of the reign
INT: concerning Elam the beginning of the reign of Zedekiah​

and in each occurrence 'In the Beginning' can also be understood to have the meaning of "First".

In other words, the meaning of "first" for H:7225 indicates that God existed before he created "the Heavens and the Earth."

I believe that the "traditional" translations give the wrong context.

Shalom

 

[TigersPaw]

My opinion in the topic is:
We once thought the sun revolved around the earth, the world was flat.
We once had no idea why items floated, birds could fly and why a ball bounced.
My Granddaughter asked me how was God created?
I said God is.
She said is What?
I said God is because he is not within where we are, he is also not where he is either.
God is not present anywhere, yet is present everywhere.
I theory in our Universe to explain how God exists there is only one possible theory that can be shown.
Dark matter. We can not see where it is, yes we see that it is there. We can not measure it, smells or see it.
Yet we know it is there. It is said Gravity pushes DarkMatter, yet we can not see Dark Matter Move, we can only see other objects move.
In these forum we discuss God, and in my opinion we are horrible at explaining how great he is.
God doesn't exist, because he created all that does exist. Yet he didn't create what doesn't exist. Because God does not exist in a paradox. Yet that is where he is from. God Is, does not create a paradox either. But the paradox exist because he is.
If there was a existence of God as a creation himself, it would be simply " IS " .
So how is God, " IS "? Because " IS " is nothing, if not supported by all things around it that we use to identify it as existence.
In the English language, IS,.... well is nothing without something to show it exists. So God Is, shows clear he exist out side of existence and creation. Yes " IS " tells us how he exist. Yet..........he does not tell us that he was create, God IS.

 

[TheHC]

I decided to create this topic.
Atheist love this topic as well as it digs at the soul of the creators intent to create.
We do not know where God came from the Bible doesn't tell us this.
However it may not matter. I will wait and give my own theories later on.
This is not a topic to debate if God exists. This is one to look at how did God come to be?

Science, unwittingly I think, has found out how God can be eternal - having no beginning.
Through in-depth analyses of energy, scientists have discovered that energy “can neither be created nor destroyed”.

Fact or Fiction?: Energy Can Neither Be Created Nor Destroyed

Is energy always conserved, even in the case of the expanding universe?

www.scientificamerican.com

The law of conservation of energy, also known as the first law of thermodynamics, states this fundamental truth.
IOW, energy has always existed. In one form or another.

And what is God? “Dynamic energy”! Isaiah 40:26

 

[ProDeo]

I decided to create this topic.
Atheist love this topic as well as it digs at the soul of the creators intent to create.
We do not know where God came from the Bible doesn't tell us this.
However it may not matter. I will wait and give my own theories later on.
This is not a topic to debate if God exists. This is one to look at how did God come to be?

The question who created God is as stupid as the question - to whom is the bachelor married, tell that to atheists

 

[TigersPaw]

The question who created God is as stupid as the question - to whom is the bachelor married, tell that to atheists

Typical cowards response. God knows how weak you are, and so do I. Now go back in your basement the adults are talking here.

 

[ProDeo]

What ?!

 

[lforrest]

My opinion in the topic is:
We once thought the sun revolved around the earth, the world was flat.
We once had no idea why items floated, birds could fly and why a ball bounced.
My Granddaughter asked me how was God created?
I said God is.
She said is What?
I said God is because he is not within where we are, he is also not where he is either.
God is not present anywhere, yet is present everywhere.
I theory in our Universe to explain how God exists there is only one possible theory that can be shown.
Dark matter. We can not see where it is, yes we see that it is there. We can not measure it, smells or see it.
Yet we know it is there. It is said Gravity pushes DarkMatter, yet we can not see Dark Matter Move, we can only see other objects move.
In these forum we discuss God, and in my opinion we are horrible at explaining how great he is.
God doesn't exist, because he created all that does exist. Yet he didn't create what doesn't exist. Because God does not exist in a paradox. Yet that is where he is from. God Is, does not create a paradox either. But the paradox exist because he is.
If there was a existence of God as a creation himself, it would be simply " IS " .
So how is God, " IS "? Because " IS " is nothing, if not supported by all things around it that we use to identify it as existence.
In the English language, IS,.... well is nothing without something to show it exists. So God Is, shows clear he exist out side of existence and creation. Yes " IS " tells us how he exist. Yet..........he does not tell us that he was create, God IS.

God's timeless qualities are spoken of in the bible. When you remove time as a concept, linear causality doesn't make sense.

One example is the lamb who was slain from the foundation of the world. he was slain between 30 and 33AD, so how was he slain from the foundation of the world? If he had not been slain later he would not have been known as having been slain in timeless eternity. In timeless eternity things just 'are.'

The nature of God and even angels transcend human understanding. Who or what created God? It is a question that assumes God is subjected to natural laws in our universe. Rather it is better to think of God as our universe, and his creation has rules he spoke into existence to establish order, one of which way down the heigherarchy of rules is time and causality

 

[A Freeman]

Exodus 3:13-14
3:13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, [when] I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What [is] His name? what shall I say unto them?
3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and He said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, "I AM" hath sent me unto you.

The "I AM" (YHWH in Hebrew) is the "Self-Existing One", Who has no beginning or end.

Is not everything that has been brought into existence not the creation of His Mind (time, space/the physical universe, the angels/spirit-Beings, the stars, the worlds, etc.)?

 

[MatthewG]

Hello @TigersPaw,

All we have is evidence of Yahavahs existence to look upon. It’s faith that people believe that he exists to begin with. Whether he exists or doesn’t, people believe he does; faithfully. When it comes to who created God? It seems like there was a time before the beginning where God made gods in Heaven or something, I believe there is some related scripture found in the Old Testament somewhere. Those gods decided to leave him, I think. Perhaps those gods worshipped in Egypt; which God demonstrated power over them? I don’t know the whole of course, and it’s possible that I’m wrong.

 

[ProDeo]

God is uncreated, simple.

I remember a YouTube video, the high priest of atheism (Richard Dawkins) was interviewed about the existence of the universe and life by a knowledgeable Christian journalist who intellectually put him (Dawkins) in a corner and to save himself (Dawkins) said -- perhaps aliens created us -- on which the journalist replied -- and who created the aliens? -- Checkmate Dawkins.

 

[St. SteVen]

I decided to create this topic.
Atheist love this topic as well as it digs at the soul of the creators intent to create.
We do not know where God came from the Bible doesn't tell us this.
However it may not matter. I will wait and give my own theories later on.
This is not a topic to debate if God exists. This is one to look at how did God come to be?

Interesting topic.
It seems that humankind created God, many gods in fact.
In an attempt to understand where we came from and where we are going.
No matter the civilization, all we have to go on are their legends.

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[St. SteVen]

It seems that humankind created God, many gods in fact.
In an attempt to understand where we came from and where we are going.
No matter the civilization, all we have to go on are their legends.

Other questions might be:
- Where did God come from?
- What was He doing before doing this?
- What else is he doing?
- What will He do next?

Even the question, "Who created God?" has to end with an uncreated being.
If you could name a creator for God, then who created that creator?
And so on...

It seems that when I get dressed in the morning, I create myself. - LOL

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[Windmill Charge]

God is not part of this universe, he created it, john1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome.

Note, all things were made by him, it follows that God was not made.

 

[David in NJ]

probably god is energy molecule mass eternal energy and his will in this dimension creates reality. step by step.

Very true but even far more complex as THEIR's is INTELLEGENCE that is BEYOND our understanding

 

[Jericho]

I decided to create this topic.
Atheist love this topic as well as it digs at the soul of the creators intent to create.
We do not know where God came from the Bible doesn't tell us this.
However it may not matter. I will wait and give my own theories later on.
This is not a topic to debate if God exists. This is one to look at how did God come to be?

God exists outside of time in an eternal present. If there's no time, as we understand it, there can't be a beginning or an end. That's why God said He's the alpha (first) and omega (end) who knows the end from the beginning. It's very difficult for us to grasp the thought of an eternal being who has always existed because we live in time and have only ever known a linear existence. I don't believe it's something we can fully comprehend from our limited vantage. But I find it ironic that an atheist can't believe in an eternal god who has always existed but has no problem believing in an eternal universe.