Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men

[Dropship]

Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men?

“There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.” (Genesis 6:4)



So perhaps those ancient giants were intellectual giants who donated their super-DNA to improve the human race?
We could further speculate that all modern Christians and truthseekers can trace their bloodline back to them and are giants too, not afraid to stand tall like rocks in today's crooked world..:)

 

[Timtofly]

You’re rambling and it’s not making sense.

when I say genesis 1-11 is myth, that’s a genre. It’s not a literal historical account. It’s fiction. Fiction is not synonymous with false. I’ve said it a dozen times. A parable, a metaphors, symbolism and ect… none of it is lies.
Myth as a genre does not meat lie.
So yes I most certainly can believe in god and the Bible , including the newest Protestant version of the Bible, as being made up of scriptures inspired by Yahweh, and think that he did so through using myths.
I can for sure, say that genesis 6 refers to a fictional group of half human half angelic hybrids that’s hyperlinked to by later authors as symbolism for might men. True events, can be hyperlinked back to fictional ones as symbolism. I can also refer to these hybrids in this fictional story as their own species that’s speedster from the human or angelic species. I’m sure you’ve heard of other mythologies where this is what happens.

I’m not repeating myself again. The books of Enoch do a good job at digging into the mythology.

OK. Have fun with your ideology.

 

[BeyondET]

“There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.” (Genesis 6:4)
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So perhaps those ancient giants were intellectual giants who donated their super-DNA to improve the human race?
We could further speculate that all modern Christians and truthseekers can trace their bloodline back to them and are giants too, not afraid to stand tall like rocks in today's crooked world..:)
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The Nephilim are not the only ones in the bible, Anaqim, Rephaim, Emim, a few giant human races and they didnt take 5' tall women as wives lol.

Tubal Cain was a metalsmith did all facets of bronze and iron, people making harps, flutes, boats, Cain even built a city.
Technology was around even in the beginning it appears human giant tech probably

 

[Ronald Nolette]

If you cannot see what I posted over and over several times, a simple yes or no will never work. My point was about Genesis 2. How many times do I have to say I was not talking about the 6 days of creation?

Where does the Bible say the 7th day was a 24 hour day?

I believe Genesis 2 says the Day of Adonai was a 1,000 year time period just the same as the soon to come Day of Adonai.

YOu are a phony! A simple yes or no is what will suffice- you are just playing a dodge for whatever reason why you do not wish to answer. You can whine and howl you are not doing that, but God, you and I know you are.

where in teh bible does it say teh seventh day is 1,000 years? It doesn't. God did not tell Israel to take 1,000 years off in the commandment- He told them to take 1 day to rest because God took a day to rest! Th efact you dodge all this is very troublersome.

 

[Timtofly]

YOu are a phony! A simple yes or no is what will suffice- you are just playing a dodge for whatever reason why you do not wish to answer. You can whine and howl you are not doing that, but God, you and I know you are.

where in teh bible does it say teh seventh day is 1,000 years? It doesn't. God did not tell Israel to take 1,000 years off in the commandment- He told them to take 1 day to rest because God took a day to rest! Th efact you dodge all this is very troublersome.

Where in the Bible does it say the Day of Adonai is 24 hours?

 

[Dropship]

The Nephilim are not the only ones in the bible, Anaqim, Rephaim, Emim, a few giant human races and they didnt take 5' tall women as wives lol.
Tubal Cain was a metalsmith did all facets of bronze and iron, people making harps, flutes, boats, Cain even built a city.
Technology was around even in the beginning it appears human giant tech probably

Yes, giants mating with earth women would have been uncomfortable for the gals to say the least, that's why they must have contributed their DNA to the human gene pool in some other way.
They possibly also gave the human race some help by teaching them how to do stuff like you say, like inventing the wheel, spinning wool into clothing, and in modern times creating great new TV quiz show formats etc..:)

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Where in the Bible does it say the Day of Adonai is 24 hours?

Where does it say it is 1,000 Years? It compares Gods patienmce as saying a day is like a 1000 years, but nowhere will you find the bible declarinf a day of the Lord= 1,000 years.

 

[Truth7t7]

Where does it say it is 1,000 Years? It compares Gods patienmce as saying a day is like a 1000 years, but nowhere will you find the bible declarinf a day of the Lord= 1,000 years.

We Agree, no place does it state a day equals a thousand literal years

 

[Truth7t7]

Yes, giants mating with earth women would have been uncomfortable for the gals to say the least, that's why they must have contributed their DNA to the human gene pool in some other way.
They possibly also gave the human race some help by teaching them how to do stuff like you say, like inventing the wheel, spinning wool into clothing, and in modern times creating great new TV quiz show formats etc..:)

Do you believe these giants were human in the lineage of Adam and Eve?

 

[Timtofly]

Where does it say it is 1,000 Years? It compares Gods patienmce as saying a day is like a 1000 years, but nowhere will you find the bible declarinf a day of the Lord= 1,000 years.

The Holy Spirit is literally telling us not to be ignorant. A Day is with the Lord as 1,000 years. The future Day with the Lord on earth is a literal 1,000 year period. That is not taking a single verse out of context. 2 Peter 3:8 is comparing a symbolic phrase (with the Lord) to a literal (1,000 years) God is still a patient God. That is using Scripture to interpret Scripture. The third Scripture is found in Genesis 2. All the prophecy about the Day of the Lord, the Day with the Lord is dealing with a future 1,000 year Millennium with Jesus on the earth. Even the 4th Commandment is looking back at the beginning and is prophetic about that future Day with the Lord. That is not me just making things up. Others throughout history have pointed that out. Even the Psalmist declared that about the Lord in Psalms 90:4.

You avoided an answer from Scripture, so you have no proof the Day of the Lord is a single 24 hour period. You assume your theology without written proof from the Word. Peter is quoting Psalms 90:2-6

"Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God. Thou turnest man to destruction; and sayest, Return, ye children of men. For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night. Thou carriest them away as with a flood; they are as a sleep: in the morning they are like grass which groweth up. In the morning it flourisheth, and groweth up; in the evening it is cut down, and withereth."

There is literally nothing in there about God's patience. According to your logic, Peter is misquoting the Psalmist and talking about God's patience out of context.

The point is people dogmatically state 2 Peter 3:8 is not about time at all, and hypocritically state day means 24 hours, anyways. You realize that saying day in those verses has to mean a literal 24 hour period is an assumption and adding to God's Word? In fact declaring that time is not even relative to God, and to prove that "we will state" that "day" is a literal 24 hour period that does not concern God one bit, that is a lot of added assumption and personal opinion.

 

[Truth7t7]

The Holy Spirit is literally telling us not to be ignorant. A Day is with the Lord as 1,000 years. The future Day with the Lord on earth is a literal 1,000 year period. That is not taking a single verse out of context. 2 Peter 3:8 is comparing a symbolic phrase (with the Lord) to a literal (1,000 years) God is still a patient God. That is using Scripture to interpret Scripture. The third Scripture is found in Genesis 2. All the prophecy about the Day of the Lord, the Day with the Lord is dealing with a future 1,000 year Millennium with Jesus on the earth. Even the 4th Commandment is looking back at the beginning and is prophetic about that future Day with the Lord. That is not me just making things up. Others throughout history have pointed that out. Even the Psalmist declared that about the Lord in Psalms 90:4.

You avoided an answer from Scripture, so you have no proof the Day of the Lord is a single 24 hour period. You assume your theology without written proof from the Word. Peter is quoting Psalms 90:2-6

"Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God. Thou turnest man to destruction; and sayest, Return, ye children of men. For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night. Thou carriest them away as with a flood; they are as a sleep: in the morning they are like grass which groweth up. In the morning it flourisheth, and groweth up; in the evening it is cut down, and withereth."

There is literally nothing in there about God's patience. According to your logic, Peter is misquoting the Psalmist and talking about God's patience out of context.

The point is people dogmatically state 2 Peter 3:8 is not about time at all, and hypocritically state day means 24 hours, anyways. You realize that saying day in those verses has to mean a literal 24 hour period is an assumption and adding to God's Word? In fact declaring that time is not even relative to God, and to prove that "we will state" that "day" is a literal 24 hour period that does not concern God one bit, that is a lot of added assumption and personal opinion.

"No" the day of the Lord isn't a thousand literal years as you claim, scripture below states it will be quick like a thief in the night, in fire and destruction (The End)

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

 

[Timtofly]

We Agree, no place does it state a day equals a thousand literal years

That is not my point at all. Of course 1,000 years does not equal 24 hours. That is my point.

You prove your own point wrong and in error. You fail to attribute that Scripture to the Day of Adonai, that is the Day of the Lord. You only see it as 1,000 years equals 24 hours, just canceling each other out, turning God's Word into a mere mathematical equation.

 

[Timtofly]

No the day of the Lord isn't a thousand literal years as you claim, scripture below states it will be quick like a thief in the night, in fire and destruction (The End)

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

It starts out quick, just like any new millennium. Blink and a few days have passed before you realize the new millennium started.

Every new year, starts out as a single second, but still lasts 365 days. The single second start does not define the whole 365 days.

You cannot even dogmatically state the "day of the Lord" lasts 24 hours. Why even call it the day of the Lord? You should start calling it the "split second" of the Lord. That is how you literally define your theology. The Day of the Lord is figurative, not an actual 24 hours.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

The Holy Spirit is literally telling us not to be ignorant. A Day is with the Lord as 1,000 years. The future Day with the Lord on earth is a literal 1,000 year period. That is not taking a single verse out of context. 2 Peter 3:8 is comparing a symbolic phrase (with the Lord) to a literal (1,000 years) God is still a patient God. That is using Scripture to interpret Scripture. The third Scripture is found in Genesis 2. All the prophecy about the Day of the Lord, the Day with the Lord is dealing with a future 1,000 year Millennium with Jesus on the earth. Even the 4th Commandment is looking back at the beginning and is prophetic about that future Day with the Lord. That is not me just making things up. Others throughout history have pointed that out. Even the Psalmist declared that about the Lord in Psalms 90:4.

You avoided an answer from Scripture, so you have no proof the Day of the Lord is a single 24 hour period. You assume your theology without written proof from the Word. Peter is quoting Psalms 90:2-6

"Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God. Thou turnest man to destruction; and sayest, Return, ye children of men. For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night. Thou carriest them away as with a flood; they are as a sleep: in the morning they are like grass which groweth up. In the morning it flourisheth, and groweth up; in the evening it is cut down, and withereth."

There is literally nothing in there about God's patience. According to your logic, Peter is misquoting the Psalmist and talking about God's patience out of context.

The point is people dogmatically state 2 Peter 3:8 is not about time at all, and hypocritically state day means 24 hours, anyways. You realize that saying day in those verses has to mean a literal 24 hour period is an assumption and adding to God's Word? In fact declaring that time is not even relative to God, and to prove that "we will state" that "day" is a literal 24 hour period that does not concern God one bit, that is a lot of added assumption and personal opinion.

We are at an end here. I cannot argue against your foolishness anymore.

8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

You set aside all normal rules of grammar and understanding to reinterpret Scripture. YOu set aside sentence construction and normal rulles of grammar. Verse 9 isan idion or euphemism and not meant to be taken as a doctrine.

But as you insist the Day of Adonai is 1,000 human years-- then you have the day of the Lord in verse 10 lasting 1,000 years as well. UNless you toss aside consistency as well! So according to timtofly the destruction of the earth will take 1,000 years for it is a Day of Adonai! good luck with that.

 

[Truth7t7]

That is not my point at all. Of course 1,000 years does not equal 24 hours. That is my point.

You prove your own point wrong and in error. You fail to attribute that Scripture to the Day of Adonai, that is the Day of the Lord. You only see it as 1,000 years equals 24 hours, just canceling each other out, turning God's Word into a mere mathematical equation.

One day is a thousand years is nothing more than showing the "Human Mind" that God is outside of time, he's the Alpha/Omega, he sees the beginning and end, "Eternal" outside of our earthly time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

It starts out quick, just like any new millennium. Blink and a few days have passed before you realize the new millennium started.

Every new year, starts out as a single second, but still lasts 365 days. The single second start does not define the whole 365 days.

You cannot even dogmatically state the "day of the Lord" lasts 24 hours. Why even call it the day of the Lord? You should start calling it the "split second" of the Lord. That is how you literally define your theology. The Day of the Lord is figurative, not an actual 24 hours.

Well because you do not know how to read Scripture, you come up with all sorts of crazy ideas.

Do yu belong to a local assembly?

 

[Truth7t7]

It starts out quick, just like any new millennium. Blink and a few days have passed before you realize the new millennium started.

Every new year, starts out as a single second, but still lasts 365 days. The single second start does not define the whole 365 days.

You cannot even dogmatically state the "day of the Lord" lasts 24 hours. Why even call it the day of the Lord? You should start calling it the "split second" of the Lord. That is how you literally define your theology. The Day of the Lord is figurative, not an actual 24 hours.

The Day Of The Lord Is (The Last Day) The End, No More Days Will Follow This Last Day

 

[Timtofly]

We are at an end here. I cannot argue against your foolishness anymore.

8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

You set aside all normal rules of grammar and understanding to reinterpret Scripture. YOu set aside sentence construction and normal rulles of grammar. Verse 9 isan idion or euphemism and not meant to be taken as a doctrine.

But as you insist the Day of Adonai is 1,000 human years-- then you have the day of the Lord in verse 10 lasting 1,000 years as well. UNless you toss aside consistency as well! So according to timtofly the destruction of the earth will take 1,000 years for it is a Day of Adonai! good luck with that.

So you are not pre-mill?

I apologize for the misunderstanding.

As I pointed out to the Amil who agrees with you, the future Day of the Lord will last for 1,000 years. It starts out with Jesus cleaning up all the mess.

It is ridiculous for you to state it will take Jesus 1,000 years to destroy the evil in the world. I never posted that, nor ever will. You do realize that after the Second Coming, humans still wait for 1,000 years before the NHNE of Revelation 21? 2 Peter 3 has nothing in the chapter whatsoever to prove Amillenialism.

 

[Dropship]

Do you believe these giants were human in the lineage of Adam and Eve?

I'm not sure.
all we know is that God sent them to improve the gene pool of the human race..:)

 

[Truth7t7]

I'm not sure.
all we know is that God sent them to improve the gene pool of the human race..:)

You use the term (God sent them)?

From the human lineage of Adam and Eve?

From outer space?

From where in your opinion?