When Jesus Came out the Grave, he was Born Again.

[Truther]

Dan, even Passover was a made up word by Tynedale. It’s a made up English word just like Easter is a made up English word. Both words were used for the same event, the Jews version was unfulfilled than the Christians version was fulfilled. Passover represents an unfulfilled Jewish Feast, and Easter represents a fulfilled Christian feast. Remember, it is a feast day.
This is why Harrod thought it would offend the Christians and pleased the Jews by killing Peter at Easter. They would have him put to death at the time Christ was put to death. It would be during the Christian feast of the death of Christ.

 

[Truther]

That's because they are in error concerning passover.

No, Dan, you are not processing what I’m trying to tell you. This is another concept altogether of the word Easter. The king James translators were not at all referring to a pagan festival. They were talking about a feast of the death of Jesus found in first Corinthians 11.

 

[Truther]

Dan, Easter is a feast. It’s a commemorative feast that was explained in first Corinthians 11. It was practiced in first Corinthians 11. Paul talked about it in first Corinthians 11 and quoted Jesus at the last supper. Think about what I’m saying. He even said that those that despise this by bringing food for themselves and not sharing with anybody else would become sick or put to death early by God.

 

[Truther]

The King James translator specifically said the word Easter because they were trying to explain to their audience that this is speaking of a Christian feast. They were referring to first Corinthians chapter 11.

 

[Truther]

This is the Easter feast that Pual spoke about and the king James translators depicted. …

20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

21 For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken.

22 What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? what shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not.

23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:

24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.

25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.

26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.

27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep

 

[Truther]

In the first century church, the Jews had a feast called the Passover. It was about killing a lamb. In the same first century going on at the same exact time, the Christians had a feast which we referred to as an Easter feast. We should be doing an Easter feast today. It’s not a thing about a wafer and a little cup of grape juice, but there is an actual feast that we should be celebrating per The death of Jesus Christ. Christianity has turned this into a hybrid wafer ceremony.

 

[Truther]

That's because they are in error concerning passover.

The Lord has His own Word... Passover, as He does not adopt pagan word to describe things View attachment 55328

The Lord leads... He does not follow.

The KJV translators should have simply said Passover

But, if the king James translators would’ve used the word Passover, then it would’ve confuse the reader to think that it was talking about the Jewish celebrated feast and not the Christian celebrated feast. Get it?

 

[Truther]

The offense that was to make the Jews content was to kill Peter at the time of the Christian feast of the fulfilled Passover per the death of Jesus. Peter would’ve died in Jesus’ stead and insulted the Christians. Now, can you see why it would please the Jews?

 

[Truther]

You have to realize this one fact. The Passover feast continued for both Jews and Christians. They both had an extremely different view on fulfilled or unfulfilled. The translators tried their best to show their readers that there is a difference. That’s why they named the name Easter to the Christians view of the feast. It is a fulfilled view of the feast.

 

[Truther]

All of these anti King James version writers are making up stories that they were talking about a pagan feast that Harrod celebrated. It is ridiculous. All they are trying to do is cast doubt on your Bible.

 

[Davy]

Which is Who I have been talking about.... glad to see you have finally caught up! View attachment 55325

I don't know what Scripture you are referring to since you failed to refer tp it with your statement. I'm not sure which post of mine you are referring to.

Well, Jesus said on the Cross that God had forsaken Him, proving He was separated from God at that point in time.

Matthew 27:46 (also see Psalm 22)
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Jesus indicates that... the Father had forsaken Him, which is being separated from God (spiritual death).

Reckon Jesus mispoke, or somehow did not understand what He was saying? View attachment 55323

Try as one may, they cannot explain Matthew 27:46 and Psalm 22 away View attachment 55324

I don't 'explain away' Bible Scripture, I make it easier to understand the meaning of what is written.

Jesus was quoting from Psalms 22 when He said, "My God, my God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?" (Matt.27:46).

What is Psalms 22 about; have you not read it? Psalms 22, given through David about 1,000 years before Christ was crucified, included events of His crucifixion, even about the casting of lots for Jesus' clothing.

What then would be the REAL... purpose for Lord Jesus quoting Psalms 22 while upon His cross? JESUS WAS STILL TEACHING BY THAT QUOTE.

The unbelieving scribes and Pharisees especially, should have recognized His quoting Psalms 22:1, because they were supposed to be learned in the Scriptures. By Lord Jesus quoting that, He was confirming the prophecy that He is The Savior, The Messiah prophesied in God's prophets. He was teaching.

 

[Truther]

I don't know what Scripture you are referring to since you failed to refer tp it with your statement. I'm not sure which post of mine you are referring to.




I don't 'explain away' Bible Scripture, I make it easier to understand the meaning of what is written.

Jesus was quoting from Psalms 22 when He said, "My God, my God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?" (Matt.27:46).

What is Psalms 22 about; have you not read it? Psalms 22, given through David about 1,000 years before Christ was crucified, included events of His crucifixion, even about the casting of lots for Jesus' clothing.

What then would be the REAL... purpose for Lord Jesus quoting Psalms 22 while upon His cross? JESUS WAS STILL TEACHING BY THAT QUOTE.

The unbelieving scribes and Pharisees especially, should have recognized His quoting Psalms 22:1, because they were supposed to be learned in the Scriptures. By Lord Jesus quoting that, He was confirming the prophecy that He is The Savior, The Messiah prophesied in God's prophets. He was teaching.

Jesus was not quoting Psalm 22. Psalm 22 was quoting Jesus. This is an event that God already saw from the beginning of the world.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Easter is a feast. It’s a commemorative feast

Yes, it’s a commemorative feast for the pagan peoples who don't know or follow the Lord Jesus.

Those honoring the Lord Jesus celebrate Passover.

Tell yer pagan buddies I said howdy, and remind them to REPENT and get right with Jesus!

Psalms 22, given through David about 1,000 years before Christ was crucified, included events of His crucifixion, even about the casting of lots for Jesus' clothing.

Yes, foretelling what was going to happen.... that Jesus would be separated from God on the Cross as an offering for our sin.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

All of these anti King James version writers are making up stories that they were talking about a pagan feast that Harrod celebrated. It is ridiculous. All they are trying to do is cast doubt on your Bible.

It's funny to see people worshiping a bible translation... not funny in a good way
I guess you're going to tell us next that one goes to hell for not reading the KJV only right?

 

[Truther]

Yes, it’s a commemorative feast for the pagan peoples who don't know or follow the Lord Jesus.

Those honoring the Lord Jesus celebrate Passover.

Tell yer pagan buddies I said howdy, and remind them to REPENT and get right with Jesus! View attachment 55398





Yes, foretelling what was going to happen.... that Jesus would be separated from God on the Cross as an offering for our sin.

The modern Easter is a pagan ritual. Easter as described by the king James translators was a first century Christian feast found in 1 Corinthians 11. Before Jesus died he told them to do this feast. It is a pascha feast. You are thinking modern Easter. You’re stuck there. You can’t Open your mind even a little bit. You have been trained by Alexander Hislop. You misrepresent the king James translators on purpose and you don’t want to know the truth.

 

[Truther]

It's funny to see people worshiping a bible translation... not funny in a good way
I guess you're going to tell us next that one goes to hell for not reading the KJV only right? View attachment 55399

I don’t say that someone is going to hell for the Bible they choose to use. I don’t care if they use a cartoon Bible. That’s up to them. But you’re filling your head with misinformation. And I don’t think that’s a very good thing. The only people that will be lost And will need extreme grace are those that disobey baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of their sins. They will not be part of the first resurrection. Even if they don’t have a Bible as long as they’re baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, they’re batting 1000.

 

[Truther]

 

[Truther]

Lesson 5- Page 1

Happy new year

 

[bro.tan]

The commands of Jesus to obey the law in detail were to the Pharisees. Are you a Pharisee? Do you keep the law precisely? I thought you were maybe a gentile?

When your eye offended you did you pluck it out? When your hand offended you did did you cut it off? These are Jesus‘ commands. Did you obey them or dismiss them?

No I'm not a Gentile, but you asking the wrong questions. The question is How can one who is not of the lineage of Israel, become partakers of the covenant of God? Lets take a look in (Ephesians 2:11-22) let’s look at the 11th through 13th verses. "Wherefore remember, that ye being in the time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called uncircumcision by that which is called the circumcision in the flesh made by hands; (12th vs.) That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenant of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: (13th vs.) But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ." 9 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 and are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

"Here is the patience of the saints; here are they that keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus" (Revelation 14:12).

Paul said in Romans 2:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: 8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, 9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: 11 For there is no respect of persons with God. 12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; 13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

There more, the point is that there is an order in how God set up his priesthood, Jesus is the High priest, but Israel is still the priest of God to this day. Rejecting God's counsel will get you eternal life in the burning flames (lake of fire) with the scribes and Pharisees. "For I say unto you, that except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, Ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 5: 20).

 

[Truther]

No I'm not a Gentile, but you asking the wrong questions. The question is How can one who is not of the lineage of Israel, become partakers of the covenant of God? Lets take a look in (Ephesians 2:11-22) let’s look at the 11th through 13th verses. "Wherefore remember, that ye being in the time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called uncircumcision by that which is called the circumcision in the flesh made by hands; (12th vs.) That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenant of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: (13th vs.) But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ." 9 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 and are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

"Here is the patience of the saints; here are they that keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus" (Revelation 14:12).

Paul said in Romans 2:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: 8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, 9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: 11 For there is no respect of persons with God. 12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; 13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

There more, the point is that there is an order in how God set up his priesthood, Jesus is the High priest, but Israel is still the priest of God to this day. Rejecting God's counsel will get you eternal life in the burning flames (lake of fire) with the scribes and Pharisees. "For I say unto you, that except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, Ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 5: 20).

We don’t have any kind of a covenant with God. We have been adopted partially, and with a dark glass experience into God‘s future covenant with national Israel via Abraham, when he returns.
Jesus is coming to save them specifically. We are only included partially in a pre-millennial experience right now that will be fully implemented at the 2nd coming.