Davidpt
Well-Known Member
The thief in the night reference is 2000 some odd years before it happens, thus what they put forth they put forth with a vague understanding overall. Yes, some 2000 years later, at the Rapture, the DOTL will be LOCKED IN onto all those who miss the rapture. That is the thief in the night reference, it can not fit the DOTL because that will happen on 1260th day in the middle of the week, it can not happen at the 2nd coming because that comes on day 2520 exactly 1260 days after the DOTL begins and the Beast starts ruling by conquering. So, its not the DOTL per se that begins like a thief, all human eyes will see the Revelation 8 asteroid heading towards the earth.
This is not true, the AoD comes by way of the False Prophet who places the Beasts i mage in the temple. This happens 30 days before the 1260 middle of the week events at the 1290. When you get to heaven you will scratch your head, this all seems so simple now, the sad thing ole Fisherking tried to tell me this countless times, and I would not heed his points of emphasis.
God's Wrath is pre plane and pre told unto us in many scriptures. In Rev. 8 we see it is one asteroid that is spoken about in four phase. Trump #1 = Fire of the trees. Trump #2 = The Impact. Trump #3 is the Fallout or Wormwood of the fresh waters. Trump #4 is the Sun & Moon diming by 1/3 via all the smoke.
So, an Asteroid triggers the beginning of God's Wrath against mankind.
The A.C. is never accepted as the King of Israel as per their Messiah. Israel joins the E.U. and thus the President of the E.U. will be their President also, because they are in the E.U. in 1900 the President of the USA was not the President of Hawaii, after 1960, the President of the USA was also Hawaii's President because they joined the USA. Its the same thing. John 5:43 was fulfilled in 70 AD, its not about end times.
The Daily that is stopped is Jews worshiping Jesus. Gog and Magog is past by the time the A.C. becomes the Beast. You have mixed it up brother. You can not defile that which has not been cleansed, that means Israel repents before the DOTL falls.
You have conflated everything my friend.
One thing that is undeniable, the fact Matthew 24:29, for one proves it, the DOTL is immediately after great tribulation. Therefore, any interpretation that insists great tribulation follows the beginning of the DOTL is making Jesus out to be a liar per Matthew 24:29 since He is on record in this verse informing us that the DOTL follows immediately after great tribulation.
Who should we believe then? Jesus Himself? Or an interpreter that is contradicting what Jesus said?
Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
And what does the DOTL involve according to the OT? Does it not involve darkness? Does or does not what is recorded in Matthew 24:29 involve darkness as well? Is anyone going to argue and expected to be taken serious, that shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, that that does not involve darkness?
IMO, any interpretation that insists there is a rapture prior to great tribulation is bringing nothing but nonsense and confusion to the table by doing so. By the time we get to verse 29 in Matthew 24, great trib is already in the past at that point, and it is then the beginning of the DOTL.