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No, the 3000 at Pentecost(the original Acts 2:38 church), was there from the beginning.
The skippers of Acts 2:38(RCC) came hundreds of years later to stomp out the 3000 and Peter's former influence on future generations.
And they did a good job at deceiving the masses and forbidding mankind to obey Acts 2:38.
This was satan's strategy....he tried persecution out the gate for hundreds of years, but the blood of the martyrs became the seed of the church.
So, his new strategy was false doctrine and compromise via the RCC, which works unto this day.
No, if they are separate and/or distinct, they have individual divine nature's too.
We are separate and distinct with individual human nature's, similarly.
Add one portion of human nature to the 2nd person's divine nature and you get 4 natures, 3 God's and a human being in the Godhead...LOL
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This is precisely the type of idiotic and contradictory response I expected from you.
FIRST, you say that the Biblival teaching of the Trinity was an invention of the "evil" Catholic Church. I sahowed you from the writings of Tertullian and Theophilus of Antioch that they were using the term "Trinity" in the SECOND century.
THEN, you say that the "evil" Catholic Church cam around HUNDREDS of years later and perverted everything.
Soooo - WHICH is it, Einstein? Didn't anybody ever teach you how to debate logically?
Go back and do some homework . . .
PS - the Martyrs you spoke of were ALL Catholics.
Here is what ONE of them wrote on the way to his execution . . .
Ignatius of Antioch (disciple of the Apostle John)
Follow your bishop, every one of you, as obediently as Jesus Christ followed the Father. Obey your clergy too as you would the apostles; give your deacons the same reverence that you would to a command of God. Make sure that no step affecting the Church is ever taken by anyone without the bishop’s sanction. The sole Eucharist you should consider valid is one that is celebrated by the bishop himself, or by some person authorized by him. Where the bishop is to be seen, there let all his people be; just as, wherever Jesus Christ is present, there is the Catholic Church (Letter to the Smyrneans 8:2 [A.D. 107]).
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There are not individual nature's. If there were we wouldn't have Adam's sin nature. . That which is naturally human is natural to every individual human person. Same is true for divine nature.
What say You?
Jesus is worshipped!
Only God may be worshipped!
Matthew 4:10
Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
Matthew 2:11
And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh.
Matthew 8:2
And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.
Matthew 9:18
While he spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him, saying, My daughter is even now dead: but come and lay thy hand upon her, and she shall live.
Matthew 14:33
Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.
Matthew 15:25
Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
John 9:38
And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.
Jesus is worshipped!
Only God may be worshipped!
Matthew 4:10
Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
Matthew 2:11
And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh.
Matthew 8:2
And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.
Matthew 9:18
While he spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him, saying, My daughter is even now dead: but come and lay thy hand upon her, and she shall live.
Matthew 14:33
Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.
Matthew 15:25
Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
John 9:38
And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.
why are you deaf and blind?
matt 18:17 hear the church
1 Tim 3:15 church has the truth
Truth must be revealed by God, and in its fullness in the sacred deposit of faith by Christ to his church! Eph 4:5 Jude 1:3 and must be taught by the church, or proposed for our belief by the apostles!
Matt 28:19-20 Lk 1:4 Jn 20:21 acts 8:31 Rom 1:5 col 2:7 1 Tim 3:15
matt 18:17
Christ and His church are one! acts 9:4 Acts 5:32 Jn 15:1-5
Truth must be revealed by God thru Christ to His church (the apostles Jude 1:3) then must be proposed by the church, (Matt 28:19 gal 3:23) without error by the Holy Spirit! (Jn 16:13)
The evidence of true faith is humble subjection and obedience to Christ & His holy church!
The rule of faith for Christians is Jesus Christ Jn 14:6 and His church! Matt 18:17 acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15
True Christians cannot listen to the errors of excommunicated heretics, but we listen faithfully to Christ, in the bosom of holy mother church, the only ark of salvation!
1 pet 3:20-21 matt 18:17 matt 16:18-19 matt 28:19-20 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-23
Truth must be revealed by God thru Christ to His church (the apostles Jude 1:3) then must be proposed by the church, (Matt 28:19 gal 3:23) without error by the Holy Spirit! (Jn 16:13)
Christ and His church are one! (Acts 9:4 eph 5:31 Jn 15:1-5)
Rejection of the one true church or its teaching is rejection of Christ and God!
Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32 Jn 8:12 & Matt 5:14
Look, I can't help what the protestant RCC(that originally protested and ended Acts 2:38), and her sub protestant breakaway daughters did in the past.
All of you are protestants and have NO remission of sins, nor had any of you Acts 2:38 protesters in history had remission of sin.
All of you are either under the Law or died under the Law.
All of you have been in league with one purpose...to stop Acts 2:38 at all cost.
What a gang.
No, every being has a nature that dies with it.
There is no invisible nature connection between us.
We are individuals.
The original church was the 3000 that obeyed Peter per Acts 2:38 at Pentecost.
....which you are not part of, as an Acts skipper.
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In other words - you realize now that you got your foot stuck so far down your throat that you can't LIE your way out of the LIES that I caught you in back in post #368.
Next time - get your history straight and you won't be so publicly humiliated like this . . .
It must be horrible to realize you have never had your sins remitted by disobeying Acts 2:38, huh?
You need to fix it before it judges you.
The RCC will not be there to help you on that dreaded day.
Their day ends here...
14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.
15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,
16 And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!
17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,
18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!
19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.
20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.
21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.
22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;
23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
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It must be horrible to realize that you backed yourself into a corner with your idiotiuc LIES - which I exposed in post #368 for everyone to see.
Public humilliation CAN be redeeming.
Let's just hope you learned something from this . . .
Yes, the RCC started their own anarchist government to oppose and stomp out Acts 2:38.
A bunch of radicals.
I exposed you to the fact that every sin you have ever committed is still hanging over you for your disobedience to Acts 2:38.
No priest can con you into remission of sins in the black confessional box either.
Your sunk.
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