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[Bob Carabbio]

Just some Protestant ministers wearing vestments - or asYOU call them, "Dresses."
Not sure why it offends you.

It offends me because the garbage that they Claim to be "God's Word" is non-Biblical, Heretical, Spiritually inaccurate, and can easily doom their catholic adherants to HELL because they're not Born Again. You're "SPirit led College of Cardinals" couldn't even elect a real Catholic to be your "Pope".

You Don't present the REAL Gospel, preach "Salvation by Works", and have created a blasphemous "Blessed Virgin thing" to be your "Go to Gal" instead of praying to FATHER in Jesus' Name, as Jesus instructed you.

 

[n2thelight]

Psalm 40:7 "Then said I, "Lo, I come: In the volume of the book it is written of me,"

From cover to cover, the entire Word of God reflects the coming of the promised Messiah, Jesus Christ. Whatever you need to know about Christ is written within these pages. Our Heavenly Father hid nothing from those that want to study His book, and know all there is to know about the Messiah Jesus Christ. If you don't have Christ's thoughts and instruction through His Word, then how are you going to know what is required to please Him?

Psalm 40:8 "I delight to do Thy will, O my God: Yea, Thy law is within my heart."

Psalm 40:9 "I have preached righteousness in the great congregation: Lo, I have not refrained my lips, O Lord, Thou knowest."

Psalm 40:10 "I have not hid Thy righteousness within my Heart; I have declared Thy faithfulness and Thy salvation:"

Psalm 40:11 "Withhold not Thou Thy tender mercies from me, O Lord: Let Thy loving kindness and Thy truth continually preserve me."

Hebrews 10:6 "In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin Thou hast had no pleasure."

Burning an animal on an altar could please no one, but it was a shadow of something that would come later. It was a type of would happen when Christ willfully was sent to the cross to die. When they would put their animal on the altar, it meant that they had to take their best animal, and through their sacrifice it became a contribution to the Father.

Hebrews 10:7 "Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of Me) to do Thy will, O God."

Everything that Jesus did and said while on earth, was written in the Old Testament, and that why He said over and over, "Haven't you read...", "It is written...", and so on. Every detail was written about Jesus' coming, how His birth would be and where. All parts of His life, and even to the words that the High Priest that caused His death at the time of the crucifixion. How can you not believe in Christ when God so perfectly outlined the coming Messiah that He would send.


Anything outside of scripture however well intended , is a man made doctrine ,period !!

 

[theefaith]

Absolutely!!! I was saved in my bedroom when under Conviction of SIN I repented and cried out to God in the FAITH that He gifted.

Getting Born again doesn't require a "Priest" although If the priest is a Born Again Christian himself (some of 'em are), he could assist in the process.

impossible!

Christ is the only savior and he is high priest so there must be low priests of the same order of ministry

born again can only be by faith and baptism
Water and the spirit

 

[Truther]

And as I have had to educate you on SEVERAL occasions - "In the namr of" means, "By the Authority of".
Time for another linguistics lesson . . .

From Macmillan Dictionary:
1. REPRESENTING someone or something
Ex. - They said they came “in the name of peace.”

From Cambridge Dictionary:
1. REPRESENTING someone or something
Ex. - "Open up in the name of the law" before they broke the door down.

From Thesaurus.com:
“In the name of” synonyms
1. THROUGH
2. THROUGH the agency of
3. Under the AUTHORITY of

From english.stackesxhange.com:
What does “in the name of…” actually mean?

Putting all religious contentions aside for the sake of our language, the etymology of name offers a good place to start understanding:

Old English nama, noma "name, reputation,"
from Proto-Germanic *namon

(cognates: Old Saxon namo, Old Frisian nama, Old High German namo, German Name, Middle Dutch name, Dutch naam, Old Norse nafn, Gothic namo "name"),

from PIE *nomn- (cognates: Sanskrit nama; Avestan nama; Greek onoma, onyma; Latin nomen; Old Church Slavonic ime, genitive imene; Russian imya; Old Irish ainm; Old Welsh anu "name").

In all cultures, people of authority have always lent their reputation and their authority to their delegates. The founders and leaders of religious movements use the same delegation strategies as the founders and leaders of nations.
The English phrase in the name of simply asserts the reputation and authority of another person.

Here us an example from classic literature:
Victor Hugo's “Dramas” 1519, page 364:
“Richard Varney, in the name of God and Saint George we dub thee knight!”

So, you see, Einstein – what I have been telling you ALL ALONG is correct.
What Peter said in Acts 2:238 was simply to be Baptized by the AUTHORITY OF Jesus Christ.

So, the RCC(you) admittedly do not know what the name of the son is that Jesus was speaking of in Matt 28:19?

Okay, now you know exactly how the RCC started.....

 

[Truther]

Now, my faithless friuend - the BIBLE defines God quite clearlty . . .

The Father is God
Ephesians 4:6
One God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

Psalm 68:5
Father of the fatherless and protector of widows is God in his holy habitation.

Malachi 2:10
Have we not all one Father? Has not one God created us? Why then are we faithless to one another, profaning the covenant of our fathers?

Isaiah 63:16
For you are our Father, though Abraham does not know us, and Israel does not acknowledge us; you, O Lord, are our Father, our Redeemer from of old is your name.

2 Corinthians 1:3-4
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God.

John 3:16
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

John 8:41
You are doing the works your father did.” They said to him, “We were not born of sexual immorality. We have one Father—even God.”

1 Thessalonians 3:13
So that he may establish your hearts blameless in holiness before our God and Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus.


The Son is God
Isaiah 7:14
All right then, the Lord himself will give you the sign. Look! The virgin will conceive a child! She will give birth to a son and will call him Immanuel (which means 'God is with us').

Isaiah 9:6
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Matt. 4:7
Jesus said to him, “Again it is written, ‘You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.’”

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the word was God.

John 1:3
ALL things were made by HIM (Jesus); and without him was not ANY thing made that was made.

John 8:58
Jesus said unto them, “Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM.”

John 10:30
“I and the Father are one."

John 14:9
Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?

John 20:28
And Thomas answered and said unto him [Jesus], “My Lord and my God!”

2 Corinthians 4:4
...lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Philippians 2:6
...Who [Jesus], being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

Colossians 2:9
...For in him [Jesus] dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.

1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Hebrews 1:8
But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Titus 2:13
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ


The Holy Spirit is God
John 14:16-18
And I will pray the Father, and He will give you *ANOTHER Helper, that He may abide with you forever -- the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.
*This word in Greek means, “another of the SAME kind.”

Luke 12:10
And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.

2 Corinthians 3:17
Now the Lord IS the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

2 Corinthians 13:5
Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that JESUS CHRIST IS IN YOU?

John 14:23
Jesus replied: "If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him and WE will come to him and make OUR home with him.

Acts 5:3-4
But Peter said, "Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself? "While it remained, was it not your own? And after it was sold, was it not in your own control? Why have you conceived this thing in your heart? You have not lied to men but to GOD."

Rather, the Father(God) is inside the son(man), which the Spirit of the Father is AKA the Holy Ghost.....

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus...

4 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost ...

9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.


The Father, which is God, is a holy Spirit.

Since there is only one holy Spirit and not multiple holy Spirit's, the Father is the Holy Ghost.

The RCC teaches there are 3 Holy Ghosts(Spirits) in the Godhead....LOL

 

[BreadOfLife]

It offends me because the garbage that they Claim to be "God's Word" is non-Biblical, Heretical, Spiritually inaccurate, and can easily doom their catholic adherants to HELL because they're not Born Again. You're "SPirit led College of Cardinals" couldn't even elect a real Catholic to be your "Pope".
You Don't present the REAL Gospel, preach "Salvation by Works", and have created a blasphemous "Blessed Virgin thing" to be your "Go to Gal" instead of praying to FATHER in Jesus' Name, as Jesus instructed you.

Thanks for confirming that I was right back in post #329 when I referred to you as just “another ignorant anti-Catholic”. Because your rant above shows that you know nothing about the Catholic Church OR Biblical Christianity.

First of all – I destroyed your notion about Catholic priestly vestments by showing you that they are also worn by YOUR Protestant ministers. The very idea that YOU can judge WHO is being “doomed to hell” shows me that you don’t know the Scriptures that condemn judging a person’s soul (Matt. 7:1-5).
A Biblically-knowledgeable person would know that you may judge a person’s ACTIONS – but NOT their soul.

Your ”Salvation by works” idiocy also illustrates your abject ignorance of Catholic theology – as does your moronic understanding of Mary.

I’m always grateful when an uneducated anti-Catholic expose their ignorance in public like this.
It makes MY job that much easier . . .


PS - As to your other comment - can you tell me WHICH one of the tens of thousands of perpetually-splintering Protestant sects that ALL teach different doctrines based on the interpretational whims of their human founders teaches the "REAL Gospel"?
I'll wait right here for your answer.

 

[BreadOfLife]

So, the RCC(you) admittedly do not know what the name of the son is that Jesus was speaking of in Matt 28:19?
Okay, now you know exactly how the RCC started.....

There is no "RCC", Einstein.
The Catholic Church, however, started at Pentecost.

Ad jusr as Jesus commanded - we Baptize in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit (Matt. 29:19).

Rather, the Father(God) is inside the son(man), which the Spirit of the Father is AKA the Holy Ghost.....
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus...
4 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost ...
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

The Father, which is God, is a holy Spirit.
Since there is only one holy Spirit and not multiple holy Spirit's, the Father is the Holy Ghost.
The RCC teaches there are 3 Holy Ghosts(Spirits) in the Godhead....LOL

Poor, pathetic Einstein.

Someday, you'll understand the roles - the PERSONS of the Godhead - and it'll hit you like a ton of bricks.
Let's just hope it's NOT at your judgement . . .

Matt. 10:33
"...but whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven."

 

[Truther]

There is no "RCC", Einstein.
The Catholic Church, however, started at Pentecost.

Ad jusr as Jesus commanded - we Baptize in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit (Matt. 29:19).

Poor, pathetic Einstein.

Someday, you'll understand the roles - the PERSONS of the Godhead - and it'll hit you like a ton of bricks.
Let's just hope it's NOT at your judgement . . .

Matt. 10:33
"...but whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven."

The RCC which you are baptized into as a newborn infant, invented trin math that is impossible to calculate. (1+1+1=1).

This is ancient ignorance being passed down to it's ignorant future generations.

....all because she skipped Acts 2:38.

Thank God for Acts 2:38, which separates the truth seekers from the Acts skippers.

 

[BreadOfLife]

The RCC which you are baptized into as a newborn infant, invented trin math that is impossible to calculate. (1+1+1=1).
This is ancient ignorance being passed down to it's ignorant future generations.
....all because she skipped Acts 2:38.
Thank God for Acts 2:38, which separates the truth seekers from the Acts skippers.

Fitdy of all - NOTHING is impossible with God (Matt. 19:26, Luke 1:37).
Shame on you for your lack of faith in Him.

Secondly - as I told you before - it's not (1+1+1=1). Three Persons don't equal ONE Person.
It's 1+1+1=3 in 1. Three PERSONS, One GOD. Hopefoully, I won't have to repeat this again . . .

Finally - your insistance that Acts 2:38 is the ONLY binding verse n Scripture is your downfall.
The Bible is NOT your plaything - it's the inerrant written Word of God Himself. You don't cling to ONE verse and toss out all of the rest just to fit your perverted ideas.

So, until you're ready to discuss Acts 2:38 in light of ALL of the other verses regarding Baptism and the nature of God- NOBODY here will take you seriously . . .

 

[Truther]

Fitdy of all - NOTHING is impossible with God (Matt. 19:26, Luke 1:37).
Shame on you for your lack of faith in Him.

Secondly - as I told you before - it's not (1+1+1=1). Three Persons don't equal ONE Person.
It's 1+1+1=3 in 1. Three PERSONS, One GOD. Hopefoully, I won't have to repeat this again . . .

Finally - your insistance that Acts 2:38 is the ONLY binding verse n Scripture is your downfall.
The Bible is NOT your plaything - it's the inerrant written Word of God Himself. You don't cling to ONE verse and toss out all of the rest just to fit your perverted ideas.

So, until you're ready to discuss Acts 2:38 in light of ALL of the other verses regarding Baptism and the nature of God- NOBODY here will take you seriously . . .

Trin RCC math is "nothing is impossible...", LOL.

AKA..."God invented heavenly math and he can add 1+1+1=1 if He wants to".

Really, fella?

Is this the RCC view of God's intellect?

Also, yeah, Acts 2:38 is the verse that pivots on whether a person is a real Christian or a fake one.

Obey Acts 2:38, Catholic, Or else...

 

[BreadOfLife]

Trin RCC math is "nothing is impossible...", LOL.
AKA..."God invented heavenly math and he can add 1+1+1=1 if He wants to".

Really, fella?
Is this the RCC view of God's intellect?

Thanks for illustrating to everyone here that you can't tell the truth to save your life.

As I have repeatedly educated you and your faithless friends - it's not 1+1+1=1.
it's 1+1+1=3 in 1.

Also, yeah, Acts 2:38 is the verse that pivots on whether a person is a real Christian or a fake one.

Actually - the rejection of the very nature of God Himsself pretty much seals the deal when it comes to "FAKE Christianity" . . .

 

[Truther]

Thanks for illustrating to everyone here that you can't tell the truth to save your life.

As I have repeatedly educated you and your faithless friends - it's not 1+1+1=1.
it's 1+1+1=3 in 1.

Actually - the rejection of the very nature of God Himsself pretty much seals the deal when it comes to "FAKE Christianity" . . .

3 in 1 is ....1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 1.

Like I said, RCC math is wild.

 

[BreadOfLife]

3 in 1 is ....1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 1.

Like I said, RCC math is wild.

Wrong, Einsteins.
ONE more time . . .

Three Persons don't equal ONE Person. It's not 1+1+1=1 or 1/3+1/3+1/3=1.
It's 1+1+1=3 in 1. Three PERSONS in One GOD.

I didn't have this much trouble with my 2nd Grade CCD students.
I dib think I've ever conversed with somebody so dense . . .

 

[Philip James]

Believers were first called Christians at Antioch. Not Catholics.

Hi Cassandra,

Both perhaps. The first record of the use of 'catholic' to refer to the whole Church, everywhere is found in the writings of Ignatius, Bishop of Antioch circa 100 AD.

Ignatius of Antioch

Peace be with you!

 

[Truther]

Wrong, Einsteins.
ONE more time . . .

Three Persons don't equal ONE Person. It's not 1+1+1=1 or 1/3+1/3+1/3=1.
It's 1+1+1=3 in 1. Three PERSONS in One GOD.

I didn't have this much trouble with my 2nd Grade CCD students.
I dib think I've ever conversed with somebody so dense . . .

You have 3 separate and distinct persons(divine persons/divinities) attempting to equate them as 1 entity(divine entity).

This is 3 God's = 1 God, which is mathematically impossible.

Adding to your 3 God's is a human nature that has his own will as a 4th entity attached to the 2nd person of your multi-God entity.(totaling 4 mind sets)

...and they call all of this concoction "one".

The RCC did not consider math when they concocted this trinity idea up.

 

[BreadOfLife]

You have 3 separate and distinct persons(divine persons/divinities) attempting to equate them as 1 entity(divine entity).
This is 3 God's = 1 God, which is mathematically impossible.
Adding to your 3 God's is a human nature that has his own will as a 4th entity attached to the 2nd person of your multi-God entity.(totaling 4 mind sets)
...and they call all of this concoction "one".
The RCC did not consider math when they concocted this trinity idea up.

Funny - I have debated you in the past where YOU claimed that the Catholic Church was “invented” sometime after the FOURTH century.

The term “Trinity” in reference to God can be found in writings from the SECONS and early THIRD centuries from Theophilus of Antioch in his, Theophilus to Autolycus, Book II and Tertullian’s treatise, Against Praxeus.

So, NOW you have to decide which LIE to adhere to.
Do you adhere to your earlier lie about the Catholic Church being formed after the fourth century – OR, your current lie about the Catholic Church “inventing” the Trinity when it supposedly didn’t even exist?

Take your pick, Einstein . . .

 

[theefaith]

The RCC which you are baptized into as a newborn infant, invented trin math that is impossible to calculate. (1+1+1=1).

This is ancient ignorance being passed down to it's ignorant future generations.

....all because she skipped Acts 2:38.

Thank God for Acts 2:38, which separates the truth seekers from the Acts skippers.

you’re math is nuts
1 person plus 1 person plus 1 person cannot equal 1 nature!

1 person plus 1 person plus 1 person does equal 3 persons!

and there are 3 persons in one divine nature!

 

[Truther]

Funny - I have debated you in the past where YOU claimed that the Catholic Church was “invented” sometime after the FOURTH century.

The term “Trinity” in reference to God can be found in writings from the SECONS and early THIRD centuries from Theophilus of Antioch in his, Theophilus to Autolycus, Book II and Tertullian’s treatise, Against Praxeus.

So, NOW you have to decide which LIE to adhere to.
Do you adhere to your earlier lie about the Catholic Church being formed after the fourth century – OR, your current lie about the Catholic Church “inventing” the Trinity when it supposedly didn’t even exist?

Take your pick, Einstein . . .

The RCC adopted the heretical idea of the "trinity of God".

It is like Darwin adopted his ideas and radicalized them.

The official doctrine of the RCC became "3 persons in 1 God", AKA 3=1...LOL.

It was the final draft in the RCC doctrine of the trinity.

The idea evolved.

 

[Truther]

you’re math is nuts
1 person plus 1 person plus 1 person cannot equal 1 nature!

1 person plus 1 person plus 1 person does equal 3 persons!

and there are 3 persons in one divine nature!

No, silly.

1 person plus 1 person(with a separate human nature) plus 1 person is 3 persons with 4 natures.

3 separate and distinct persons with divine natures influencing them to be distinct, with the 2nd person having a separate human nature attachment.

Egad!

Gadzooks!

 

[BreadOfLife]

The RCC adopted the heretical idea of the "trinity of God".
It is like Darwin adopted his ideas and radicalized them.
The official doctrine of the RCC became "3 persons in 1 God", AKA 3=1...LOL.
It was the final draft in the RCC doctrine of the trinity.
The idea evolved.

You can't have it BOTH ways, Einstein.

Either the Catholic Church has been around since the beginning - or you CAN'T blame ANYTHING you disagree wuth PRIOR to the 4th century on the Catholic Church.
In the depths of your ignorance and dishonesty - you've painted yourself into a corner.

This is what happenes when you LIE as oftren as YOU do, Einstein . . .