Mary had numerous children with Joseph after Jesus was born.
They must have really talked her up, huh?
You have a scripture that says this?
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Mary had numerous children with Joseph after Jesus was born.
They must have really talked her up, huh?
You know Jesus meant "spiritual father".Matt 23:9
Call no man Father?
Is this an absolute requirement?
Or is Our Savior condemning pride and spiritual pride of the Pharisees?
God calls men father!
Ex 3:6 Moreover he said, I am the God of thy fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.
Jesus calls men father!
Jn 6:49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.
Mary calls men father!
Lk 1:55 As he spake to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his seed for ever.
Peter calls men father!
Acts 3:13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.
Acts 3:22 Moses said unto the fathers…
The stephen calls men father!
Acts 7 Stephen quotes the fathers over and over!
The Bible calls men father!
Luke 16:24
And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
Acts 3:13
The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.
Then there is spiritual fathers!
Spiritual Fathers have care for our souls!
Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
Jn 21:17 feed my sheep:
Heb 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they care for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.
1 Tim 1:2 Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.
Gal 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you
1 John 2
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.
That makes Peter, Paul and John spiritual fathers, pastors of our souls!
Isa 22 the administrator of the kingdom is called father, so the same for Peter, the apostles, and their successors!
Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20
Lk 10:16
He who hears you hears me...
John 13:20
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.
Jn 20:21 as my father sent me, so send in you. (The apostles) posses the same power mission and authority as Christ!
Peter, the apostles and their successors!
Eph 3: 14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
every family in heaven and on earth is named from the “Father.” We are fathers in the Father.
Acts 7:2; 22:1, 1 John 2:13 – elders of the Church are called “fathers.” Therefore, we should ask the question, “Why don’t Protestants call their pastors “father?”
1 Cor. 4:17 – Paul calls Bishop Timothy a beloved and faithful “child” in the Lord.
2 Cor. 12:14 – Paul describes his role as parent over his “children” the Corinthians.
Phil. 2:22 – Paul calls Timothy’s service to him as a son serves a “father.”
1 Thess. 2:11- Paul compares the Church elders’ ministry to the people like a father with his children.
1 Tim. 1:2,18; 2 Tim. 1:2-3 – Paul calls Timothy his true “child” in the faith and his son.
Titus 1:4 – Paul calls Titus his true “child” in a common faith. Priests are our spiritual fathers in the family of God.
Philemon 10 – Paul says he has become the “father” of Onesimus.
Heb. 12:7,9 – emphasizes our earthly “fathers.” But these are not just biological but also spiritual (the priests of the Church).
1 Peter 5:13 – Peter refers to himself as father by calling Mark his “son.”
1 John 2:1,1 John 2:13,14 – John calls the elders of the Church “fathers.”
Isa 22:21-22 the prime minister who administer the kingdom under the king in the line of david Lk 1:32-23 has the title father and hold the keys Matt 16:18
Paul was a mentor(father figure).Spiritual Fathers!
Heb 13:7 Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.
Heb 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they care for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.
1 Tim 1:2 Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.
Gal 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you
1 John 2
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.
You have a scripture that says this?
46 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.You have a scripture that says this?
Mary had numerous children with Joseph after Jesus was born.
They must have really talked her up, huh?
You know Jesus meant "spiritual father".
Paul was a mentor(father figure).
God is the only spiritual Father, because God is Spirit, not flesh.
46 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.
47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee....
55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?..
3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.
We don't drink, thanks but no thanks.Saint Patrick, pray for us!
Happy Saint Patrick’s day!
the apostle of Jesus Christ to Ireland!
Ireland was Catholic for a thousand years until the bloody British betrayed Christ in the 16th century revolt! (Reformation so called)
so where was Saint Patrick from?
46 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.Any proof of this?
Scripture perhaps?
God is my lone spiritual Father.so we’re not Allowed to have spiritual fathers?
no I don’t know any meaning, intent, or interpretation cos I only go by the Bible alone! Text alone!
And text has no intent, meaning or interpretation, that requires apostles
Your little hang up with Mary's virginity is unscriptural.how Does this make these brothers the children of Mary?
how many of the twelve sins of Jacob (Israel) all brothers had the same mother?
They had four mothers! Four!
Yet are all brothers!
they may be children of Joseph by a former marriage or cousins!
but never children of Mary!
scripture says only one is her child and He is God! Isa 7:14 Matt 1-16-23 lk 1:35
James is the son of zebedee, and the other James is the son of Alpheus not Joseph!
Matt 10:2-3
In Hebrew culture any close relative can be called brother or sister, lot was called Abraham’s brother but was his nephew.
Gen 12:5 and Abram took Sarai his wife, and Lot his brother's son..
Gen 13:8 And Abram said unto Lot, Let there be no strife, I pray thee, between me and thee, and between my herdsmen and thy herdsmen; for we are Brothers.
Jose’s, Simon Salome are children of another Mary!
Mk 15:40 There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome;
and scripture says forever!
No sex!
Lk 1:34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
NO SEX!
We don't drink, thanks but no thanks.
46 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.
47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee....
55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?..
3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.
God is my lone spiritual Father.
He will not play second fiddle to any man.
Your little hang up with Mary's virginity is unscriptural.
Hey, she lusted on Joseph enough to be engaged to him.
This is before her conception of Christ.
Your Mary was as human as the next woman.
This was God's reward to her for abstaining until after Christ was born....
46 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.
47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee....
55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?..
3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him...
Joseph was a good boy too, until....
25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name Jesus.
After Jesus was born, wooo wooo!
That's all the Irish Catholics like to do on st. Patricks day.I don’t either!
When did I say to drink?
drinking is no sin only drunkenness
That was before she was married fella, not after.not proof that they are children of Mary!
No answer!
how Does this make these brothers the children of Mary?
how many of the twelve sins of Jacob (Israel) all brothers had the same mother?
They had four mothers! Four!
Yet are all brothers!
they may be children of Joseph by a former marriage or cousins!
but never children of Mary!
scripture says only one is her child and He is God! Isa 7:14 Matt 1-16-23 lk 1:35
James is the son of zebedee, and the other James is the son of Alpheus not Joseph!
Matt 10:2-3
In Hebrew culture any close relative can be called brother or sister, lot was called Abraham’s brother but was his nephew.
Gen 12:5 and Abram took Sarai his wife, and Lot his brother's son..
Gen 13:8 And Abram said unto Lot, Let there be no strife, I pray thee, between me and thee, and between my herdsmen and thy herdsmen; for we are Brothers.
Jose’s, Simon Salome are children of another Mary!
Mk 15:40 There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome;
and scripture says forever!
No sex!
Lk 1:34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
NO SEX!