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amigo de christo
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Give it up thee faith . Some of us keep answering this and you seem to keep forgetting and asking it over and over again .
Now get that nose in the bible and start learning what the true apostels and JESUS himself taught .
Stop heeding the CC which has twisted some of those doctrines .
The pattern is easily seen and learned in that bible . The problem is THE CC cannot see this
nor the JW , nor many others . GO ye and learn the original doctrine in that bible well .
Do that . THEN we can talk . Till then you keep repeating the CC parrot .
amigo de christo
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The only apostels the CC has are false ones my friend .
Its the doctrine . You got to learn the doctrine my friend .
You dont do what the bible says , the CC sure dont do it , and yet you all say we dont do it .
Tell you what thee faith . Go back and learn the bible for yourself , put some good hours of reading it daily
Do it for a good bit of time . THEN you will see clearly who was the one who has been duped .
I mean we both claim to follow the pattern of Christ and the apostels . SO LEARN you THAT DOCTRINE .
THEN let us have a good conversation . THE CC , like many protestant churches , have duped down their folks my friend .
But how will you know this if you wont even take the simple advice i have been giving you , AND READ IT FOR YOURSELF .
Ill take that as a yes
please answer my questions
Show me from or in “the Bible alone”?
1) a list (not contents) of the Ten Commandments.
2) what things is Lk 1:49 referring to.
3) what Christ commanded his apostles in Matt 28:20
4) a list of scripture (books chapters) in scripture?
WHEN???
When did it become divine revelation?
When did it become the inspired word of God?
When it was Spoken by Christ to His apostles?
When it was taught by the apostles?
When it was Written down decades latter?
When it was canonized by the supreme Roman pontiff in 381?
When did it become the inspired word of God?
If only when written down (Bible alone) then when it was spoken it should have been rejected as mere human tradition or the tradition of men, and therefore they would not possess the truths revealed by God and could not write scripture!
If you believe the false doctrine of the “Bible alone is the only authority” then you must reject the authority of Christ and His apostles!
How can we know what is scripture?
How can we know what is not scripture?
How can we safeguard and protect scripture from errors?
Who has authority to teach scripture without error?
Who has authority to Authentically interpret scripture?
amigo de christo
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TILL you do what i am trying to help you to do . The conversation is pointless .
Now get in that bible and start reading and learning for yourself .
amigo de christo
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Till you get in the bible and learn that doctrine , the converastion is pointless .
Open it up . The pages are not that heavy to turn and read for yourself . Hurry . Do not look back .
amigo de christo
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These are your objections that came from what the CC told you the scripture meant . Lets keep it real my friend .
never said Mary was God!
All praise veneration of the divine mother redounds to God who created her and Christ the source of all graces!
lk 1:49
amigo de christo
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Never said you said she was . You have so many conversations going through your head
you dont even know who has said what to you .
I am the one that simply keeps telling you to read the bible for yourself and to pray TO GOD in JESUS NAME .
Not to saints , to mary or to angels .
You have way too many voices of so many different conversations running through your head .
Now . Take a rest . Open the bible and read it for hours daily , loving and embracing the pure and holy doctrine by
which you shall indeed grow wise unto salvation through faith in Christ . Open bible , read bible , love Truth .
I don’t have any such thing, I study scripture on my own
And I created these questions
then explain
2 John 1:12
Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, andspeak face to face, that our joy may be full.
Okay, here goes....
Hail Mary, full of grace, ketchup head and tomato face.
The was the best I could do.
And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
amen! It’s a start
A good tree!
Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation! Matt 1:21 Lk 2:30 Jesus is our salvation! This reflects the immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus!
Lk 1:30 Mary found our salvation!
Lk 1:38 consented to our salvation!
A good tree (immaculate conception) Lk 1:49 God has done this and it is marvelous in our eyes!
Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Matt 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
A sinner would be an evil tree with evil fruit, but the fruit of Mary is salvation!
Mary brings in the good fruits of our redemption and salvation!
So Mary CANNOT be a sinner or a bad tree!
Sacred womb of Mary!
Isa 7:14 Theotokos the “God bearer”!
Sacred womb!
Blessed fruit of her womb!
Matt 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
Matt 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Lk 1:42 And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.
A sinner cannot have a sacred womb and be blessed and have a blessed fruit of her womb!
Only a good tree, a holy & immaculate tree can bear the good fruit who is God and our redemption and salvation!
Matt 23:9
Call no man Father?
Is this an absolute requirement?
Or is Our Savior condemning pride and spiritual pride of the Pharisees?
God calls men father!
Ex 3:6 Moreover he said, I am the God of thy fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.
Jesus calls men father!
Jn 6:49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.
Mary calls men father!
Lk 1:55 As he spake to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his seed for ever.
Peter calls men father!
Acts 3:13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.
Acts 3:22 Moses said unto the fathers…
The stephen calls men father!
Acts 7 Stephen quotes the fathers over and over!
The Bible calls men father!
Luke 16:24
And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
Acts 3:13
The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.
Then there is spiritual fathers!
Spiritual Fathers have care for our souls!
Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
Jn 21:17 feed my sheep:
Heb 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they care for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.
1 Tim 1:2 Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.
Gal 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you
1 John 2
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.
That makes Peter, Paul and John spiritual fathers, pastors of our souls!
Isa 22 the administrator of the kingdom is called father, so the same for Peter, the apostles, and their successors!
Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20
Lk 10:16
He who hears you hears me...
John 13:20
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.
Jn 20:21 as my father sent me, so send in you. (The apostles) posses the same power mission and authority as Christ!
Peter, the apostles and their successors!
Eph 3: 14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
every family in heaven and on earth is named from the “Father.” We are fathers in the Father.
Acts 7:2; 22:1, 1 John 2:13 – elders of the Church are called “fathers.” Therefore, we should ask the question, “Why don’t Protestants call their pastors “father?”
1 Cor. 4:17 – Paul calls Bishop Timothy a beloved and faithful “child” in the Lord.
2 Cor. 12:14 – Paul describes his role as parent over his “children” the Corinthians.
Phil. 2:22 – Paul calls Timothy’s service to him as a son serves a “father.”
1 Thess. 2:11- Paul compares the Church elders’ ministry to the people like a father with his children.
1 Tim. 1:2,18; 2 Tim. 1:2-3 – Paul calls Timothy his true “child” in the faith and his son.
Titus 1:4 – Paul calls Titus his true “child” in a common faith. Priests are our spiritual fathers in the family of God.
Philemon 10 – Paul says he has become the “father” of Onesimus.
Heb. 12:7,9 – emphasizes our earthly “fathers.” But these are not just biological but also spiritual (the priests of the Church).
1 Peter 5:13 – Peter refers to himself as father by calling Mark his “son.”
1 John 2:1,1 John 2:13,14 – John calls the elders of the Church “fathers.”
Isa 22:21-22 the prime minister who administer the kingdom under the king in the line of david Lk 1:32-23 has the title father and hold the keys Matt 16:18
Mary had numerous children with Joseph after Jesus was born.
They must have really talked her up, huh?
Spiritual Fathers!
Heb 13:7 Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.
Heb 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they care for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.
1 Tim 1:2 Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.
Gal 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you
1 John 2
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.
Heb 13:7 Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.
Heb 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they care for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.
1 Tim 1:2 Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.
Gal 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you
1 John 2
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.
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