Gary Urban
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You have trouble staying on point, it shows in your answer, you offer nothing substantial, read it...I was showing From the Bible how Jesus Mind was different than yours so you present a mystery to hide behind...Don't get confused with the simplicity that is in Christ, The truth is easy to believe, But games aside the bible is spiritually discerned the natural man can't understand it, If you have the holy spirit you don't need man, it rules out the need for false teachers, Jesus real sheep will not follow the voice of another, you are free to teach from the bible tho, which I haven't seen as of yet
The mind of Christ is different from the mind of His creation .I am not confused as to the simplictiy of the gospel .
His mind reveals the mysteries hid from the lost
When we achieve this MIND.... we are then "walking in the Spirit", and this happens based on RIGHT BELIEVING.
Until a Believer achieves this revelation, they will sin and confess, and fail, and think that this is what they are supposed to do, which is the wrong mind (of the flesh) or the "natural mind"... and its a deceived mind which cannot receive the things of God.
When you meet a "christian" who thinks they can lose their salvation, then you are dealing with someone who has a "natural mind", which is deceived, and can't receive the things of God.
I would agree Christians cannot lose their salvation.But its not something we achieve. We walk as two in agreement of one God. What he achives working in us to both wil and to emnpwer We have no power to achieve .Just like the Son of man Jesus the power came from the father the mystery made known .