What Are we Getting Saved From?

[Reggie Belafonte]

Jesus said that this world is full of Delusions and deceptions.
We are to come out from such and into the Kingdom of God, that when one is truly born again = Saved in Christ Jesus.
Saved from the power and deceptions of Sin, one has wisdom to discern ? just like when one truly understands that Jesus was up against = Us ! our ignorance ? blighted as such and a cruse ! just like them who dealt with Jesus ? for they knew no better, like a Mob they were under deception of Religious fools ? For no one comes to the Father but through his only begotten Son. One has to be truly born again, by the Holy Spirit.
One has to abide in Christ Jesus because he is the wellspring there of.
Religion does not Save, only Christ Jesus Saves !

 

[Aunty Jane]

True. We are perfectly innocent. Just like Adam and Eve in the beginning.

How did Adam and Eve lose their innocence....and with what result for their children...?

After his sin with Bathsheba, King David said....
"For I was born a sinner — yes, from the moment my mother conceived me." (Psalm 51:5 NLT)
No one is "born innocent", since sin is in our flesh from conception. (Romans 3:23; Romans 5:12)

 

[Skovand1075]

ha well sure; only in the context in which you are implying, prolly not? Do you think "eternal" means "forever?" Can you Quote anything along the lines of "'Saved means that one goes to heaven after they have died, rather than hel, to spend forever with Yah?"

well, might be better to deal with one hairball at a time lol, but in this context i would ask why you think that occurs only after one has literally died? And yes, i get that it is worded in such a way that that is possible...even inferred, maybe. Great way to hide wisdom from the wise, i think

I never said anything about people going to heaven….. I said receive eternal life. I suggest looking up the work by OT professor Tim a Mackie , and the works by NT Wright, on this subject.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Sorry, I must have missed this.....

I used to believe that too, but if there is no part of us that survives death (no non-physical part, because all physical parts perish) then a resurrection would just be a clone of us and not actually us.

I have heard others say this, but in actuality, the resurrection of the body with a full restoration of the memories and personality traits, would still be you.

What if I were to tell you that every cell in your body is replaced every seven to ten years.....that process of cell renewal means that there is not a cell in your body that was there ten years ago....is that a clone of you? Or are you still you? God does not need a single molecule of the old body to create a new body and give it everything that made you who you were. If you recognise yourself, and others do too, how is it not *you*?

How do you understand the following verses (all from the WEB)?

Matthew 10:28

(28) Don’t be afraid of those who kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul. Rather, fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.

Gehenna is a place of eternal death....both body and any prospects for future life are “destroyed” in this place. It is a place from which no one returns. God determines who is sent there.
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Luke 23:46

(46) Jesus, crying with a loud voice, said, “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit!” Having said this, he breathed his last.

He breathed his last breath.....that is the spirit he entrusted to his God and Father. All prospects for his resurrection rested with the one who had the power to bring him back to life.
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Acts 7:59

(59) They stoned Stephen as he called out, saying, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!”

Stephen was experiencing a vision at the time he made that statement and was filled with God’s spirit....he was seeing his Lord Jesus and knowing that Christ had promised to resurrect the dead, he committed his future life prospects to the one he knew would restore him to life.

No Jew believed in an immortal soul that survived the death of the body....that was a pagan notion. Jews believed in resurrection of the body, in a restoration of life...not a continuation of it.​

Jesus began to teach them the heavenly nature of the Kingdom and the fact that he was going to heaven to prepare a place for his elect......but even as Jesus was ascending to heaven, they still did not understand that he was going to take them to heaven (Acts 1:6)......later, at Pentecost, the disciples received the promised Holy Spirit and with that anointing came a fuller understanding of their “heavenly calling”. (Hebrews 3:1)

 

[Bob Estey]

Its got nothing to do with what we know.....we are born "in sin" and defects in our mortal bodies can cause us to succumb to sickness and death before we even have a choice to choose right or wrong.....that is the power of sin. We have no control over when death overtakes us.

Since we know nothing, we will make mistakes, it would seem to me. God tries to guide us from the beginning, but sooner or later we will disobey - we all have done that.

 

[Blue Dragonfly's]

How did Adam and Eve lose their innocence....and with what result for their children...?

After his sin with Bathsheba, King David said....
"For I was born a sinner — yes, from the moment my mother conceived me." (Psalm 51:5 NLT)
No one is "born innocent", since sin is in our flesh from conception. (Romans 3:23; Romans 5:12)

We are born pure and perfectly innocent. The verses in Romans do not say sin is in our flesh from conception.

If that were true contraception would save potential sinners from coming to exist. And abortion clinics would be the first church. Removing sinful flesh manifest at conception so that the soul does not enter and is born condemned at conception.

By one man sin entered the world.Not the flesh at conception.

 

[bbyrd009]

Would you care to elaborate on this this “point of evidence” bbyrd?
How is the “best understanding” obtained, do you think?

i think it becomes apparent that the “death” A&E were warned of was spiritual death, not literal, and ones best understanding likely comes by studying the Bible for themselves first, without influence, as Paul says

Again, could you elaborate on why you believe this is impossible for procreators?

earth would get awfully crowded, Bible states plainly, more than one way, that we are “here today, gone tomorrow,” “assigned threescore and ten years,” etc

but it isnt going to matter, see, youve heard this before, and you will hear it again, and you either have some pat little sales pitch for each point, or you will just completely ignore the point entirely, like you do with any Scripture that does not fit with the jw profile, would you like to see an example?

 

[Blue Dragonfly's]

Sorry, I must have missed this.....


I have heard others say this, but in actuality, the resurrection of the body with a full restoration of the memories and personality traits, would still be you.

What if I were to tell you that every cell in your body is replaced every seven to ten years.....that process of cell renewal means that there is not a cell in your body that was there ten years ago....is that a clone of you? Or are you still you? God does not need a single molecule of the old body to create a new body and give it everything that made you who you were. If you recognise yourself, and others do too, how is it not *you*?



Matthew 10:28

(28) Don’t be afraid of those who kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul. Rather, fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.

Gehenna is a place of eternal death....both body and any prospects for future life are “destroyed” in this place. It is a place from which no one returns. God determines who is sent there.
​

Luke 23:46

(46) Jesus, crying with a loud voice, said, “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit!” Having said this, he breathed his last.

He breathed his last breath.....that is the spirit he entrusted to his God and Father. All prospects for his resurrection rested with the one who had the power to bring him back to life.
​

Acts 7:59

(59) They stoned Stephen as he called out, saying, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!”

Stephen was experiencing a vision at the time he made that statement and was filled with God’s spirit....he was seeing his Lord Jesus and knowing that Christ had promised to resurrect the dead, he committed his future life prospects to the one he knew would restore him to life.

No Jew believed in an immortal soul that survived the death of the body....that was a pagan notion. Jews believed in resurrection of the body, in a restoration of life...not a continuation of it.​

Jesus began to teach them the heavenly nature of the Kingdom and the fact that he was going to heaven to prepare a place for his elect......but even as Jesus was ascending to heaven, they still did not understand that he was going to take them to heaven (Acts 1:6)......later, at Pentecost, the disciples received the promised Holy Spirit and with that anointing came a fuller understanding of their “heavenly calling”. (Hebrews 3:1)

Correct me please if I misunderstood your post.
Are you saying our bodies are to be resurrected with all memories,etc... when Jesus makes his kingdom on earth?

Thank you for assisting my understanding in this.

 

[bbyrd009]

If God’s instruction was to “fill the earth” with their offspring, what do you suppose that God would do once that mandate was fulfilled? He gave us our procreative abilities in the first place in order to carry out the original assignment....so could he not then cease the procreative abilities and allow the humans to just do their job in the most idyllic of circumstances? Who could want more?
There are other options but at this point in time, would be mere speculation

yes aj, Yah could have done any number of things, but that is to all appearances not what He did, and many passages are being outright ignored there, which ive posted before and you ignore, and im not doing this again, ok? And if you want to understand why, you might go spend a day with thee faith lol, bless her heart.

you asked “what went wrong?” in the garden of Eden, and i suggested that maybe nothing went wrong at all, like a toddler sticking their hand in a fire, maybe; sure, they might be screaming, but nothing really went “wrong,” unless it is perceived a certain way. And to all appearances, at least right now, your perceptions are “truth,” right?

Everything you believe right now is “established fact” see, and it takes a few back-and-forths with you to realize that you really dont respond to other posts at all, except to maybe grab some term or concept from them that you can go off on another sermon with, and i dont mean to be accusing here ok, thats just what you do, a la thee faith, and as far as im concerned everyone is entitled to their beliefs anyway, ok? I know amazing Catholics, ex-Catholics are writing the best Christian mysticism going right now, and tbh i even occasionally get asked if i am jw, as i dont do xmas, etc

but ill tell you what scares me aj—for you i mean—and why i would never, ever become jw, nor would i stand idly by while someone like you proselytizes other seekers, is that you are now captured, see; you cannot change your mind, practically speaking, without being shunned, which is imo why you cannot have a back and forth conversation, as you are now committed to the sin of pride, even if it doesnt look like that at first, pride is what it is, “We are superior, we are holy, and if you disagree we cannot even talk to you” and so now you have an entire belief system based upon “speculation,” as if following “Jehovah” without even recognizing where that Fake Name derives from is not evidence enough?

I mean, is there any chance that you might one day leave the tree you are proverbially swinging from, and experience any other discipline? No, right? Then see, there will never be any chance that you could rationally contemplate many, many passages of Scripture, threescore and ten, that you might then evolve a more complete understanding that would lead to growth, and a changed mind, and i cant think of a better description of “in the grave” ok, although im sure you are comfortable enough, and again i am not here to convert you

 

[bbyrd009]

Gehenna is a place of eternal death....both body and any prospects for future life are “destroyed” in this place. It is a place from which no one returns. God determines who is sent there

Gehenna is a trash dump, and makes a great analogy for what we would now call “ghosting” people, or otherwise breaking off relationships bc the other party is not “holding up their end,” and you cannot Quote any of what you said up there, sorry. Not saying that it abs is not true, but it is conjecture. No one returns from Sheol i guess, but then that whacks your other beliefs right

He breathed his last breath.....that is the spirit he entrusted to his God and Father. All prospects for his resurrection rested with the one who had the power to bring him back to life

therefore he did not “breathe His least breath” at all, as Scripture plainly states, and being as how He will supposedly un-zombify at some point and literally come back to life, the entire passage becomes moot, also

Stephen was experiencing a vision at the time he made that statement and was filled with God’s spirit....he was seeing his Lord Jesus and knowing that Christ had promised to resurrect the dead, he committed his future life prospects to the one he knew would restore him to life

therefore Steven’s spirit will not “go back to God, Who gave it” like the Bible says, it will actually “go back and forth,” right?

pls take these rhetorically, just things to think about ok; adressing them would leas to a crisis of your “faith,” which is not what im…well, i guess that is ezackly what im trying to do lol, lead you to “wrestling with God,” and thence to becoming Israel, which right now you are prohibited from doing, i guess

see aunty, you are not currently allowed to even test everything, unless you are prepared to be outcast by your congregation, right? But i tell you that the day is going to come anyway, if you are truly seeking, and you might seek some testimony from former jw’s, those who have had the courage to change their minds, that they might move on to Jacob. Run while you still can imo, while you are young, and it is easier

 

[bbyrd009]

How did Adam and Eve lose their innocence....and with what result for their children...?

After his sin with Bathsheba, King David said....
"For I was born a sinner — yes, from the moment my mother conceived me." (Psalm 51:5 NLT)
No one is "born innocent", since sin is in our flesh from conception. (Romans 3:23; Romans 5:12)

since we will all transgress “from a young age,” sure, but see you are taking that too absolutely, at least imo, and there are several other ways to demonstrate that babies dont sin, i can think of like five Scriptural treatments for that, that you will not hear of course

 

[bbyrd009]

I never said anything about people going to heaven….. I said receive eternal life. I suggest looking up the work by OT professor Tim a Mackie , and the works by NT Wright, on this subject.

then my apologies, i guess there are many diff concepts of “eternal life” and i would have to ask you for a definition of yours, sigh. Professors and other gnostics who talk like “this is that, and that is this” i am not much interested in, wadr, but fwiw i have read those guys, and aion is not aidios, or iow eternal does not mean forever as they would like to believe, which is easily demonstrable, except to a believer of course. The cult of sol is a compelling concept though, yes. Evabody wanna be an immortal, huh

 

[bbyrd009]

but in actuality, the resurrection of the body with a full restoration of the memories and personality traits, would still be you

you might contemplate that that “you” that you are so focused on was entirely invented by “you” when “you” chose to separate yourself from One, and become what you are now convinced is the enduring part of “aunty jane,” even though it is just your mask, your “ego”

and there is a simple exercise for this, just write a page describing your “self” without physical descriptors, and distribute it to your friends, fellow jws even since that is all you are allowed i guess? and ask them to ID who the page is about. Now im writing on the fly, and may have missed some points, but this has been accomplished already, and generally speaking “you” will not even be recognized in the treatise; so then which “you” is going to be literally resurrected, do you think? The one you described, or the one they know?

 

[bbyrd009]

You know why i love religion? Bc it efficiently gathers all of those focused on themselves into one place, all the ones scared of dying, everyone seeking to become an immortal,
He who seeks to save his life will lose it

 

[Helen]

I have heard this before, but it does not correspond with what the Bible says about our beginnings.

The fact is, God had to wait for his free willed children to make their decisions before he could step in with a response. When Adam chose to side with his wife instead of his God, that decision is what prompted God's plan of action.

The "bride of Christ" was not chosen before "the creation of the world" at all.....
Ephesians 1:4...."as he chose us to be in union with him before the founding of the world..."
In Greek, this is how that verse reads....
"even as kathōs he chose eklegomai us hēmeis in en him autos before pro the creation katabolē of the world kosmos..."

"katabolē" means...

1. a throwing or laying down
   1. the injection or depositing of the virile semen in the womb
      
      
   2. of the seed of plants and animals
   
   from G2598; a deposition, i.e. founding; figuratively, conception:—conceive, foundation."

So this is talking about the conception of Adam's children.....the beginning of the human race.....those born with an ugly inheritance of sin and death from their first father.

And "kosmos" means....
"the inhabitants of the earth, men, the human family".

It does not mean the creation of the earth itself because God's purpose never included a "bride" for his son until the need arose to send him on a rescue mission for Adam's children. To assume that God planned for this all to happen as part of some strange scheme is ridiculous.....it means that God planned for man to fail and for sin to rob them of everything good that God had already given them....

There was no plan for "a bride for his son" when God created the planet......that was a contingency plan for later, after the human race was plunged into sin....not before.

We will agree to differ . I know JW’s believe very differently on so many things.

if you can’t see Gods revealed Plan in His word , from Genesis to Revelation, that’s very sad .

have a good day. ….H

 

[Aunty Jane]

We are born pure and perfectly innocent. The verses in Romans do not say sin is in our flesh from conception.

Having the Bible’s view of “sin” is where we can distinguish between the two forms of sin that the Bible speaks about. Sin entered the world through Adam and his wife.....how? By inheritance. How do we inherit something that is genetically transmitted? At least one parent has to have a faulty gene to give their children a 50% chance of inheriting it....but if both parents carry the defective gene, the children are 100% doomed to inherit it. This is the sin of imperfection...both of our first parents lost their perfection the day that they ate from the TKGE.....that is the sin that leads to ageing, ill health, and death from a multitude of causes. How many ways are there to die?

Does death from any of those causes feel “natural”? The word “sin” is an archery term that simply means to “miss the mark”. The sin with which we are born, causes us to miss the mark of our original bodily and spiritual perfection, regardless of whether we sin deliberately or not. Babies can die of cancer, SIDS, and birth defects....that is the result of sin in the flesh....it’s got nothing to do with disobeying God. This is the “sin” that leads us to commit wrongdoing, which is the other sin....as Paul said in Romans 7. It influences us to do what we hate.

If that were true contraception would save potential sinners from coming to exist.

LOL....I think it already does....accidentally, disguised as people not wanting children but still wanting to enjoy sex......no?

And abortion clinics would be the first church. Removing sinful flesh manifest at conception so that the soul does not enter and is born condemned at conception.

Well, that is a bit extreme....taking a life without God’s sanction is murder.
The “soul” is not something that “enters” a body. That is a false belief because the Bible never uses the word “soul” for a disembodied spirit, as I hope I explained before. The “soul” is the living, breathing creature....both man and animal. Souls die....they do not enter and exit a body. It is the breath that does that. We begin breathing at birth and we cease breathing at death.....oxygen is what keeps a “soul” alive. The word “spirit” in the Bible has a few different meanings, but universally, it refers, to.....that which is invisible to human sight and which gives evidence of force in motion. Such invisible force is capable of producing visible effects. The spirit has no personality.....it is not a conscious entity. The “soul” is the conscious entity and it breathes.

By one man sin entered the world. Not the flesh at conception.

Sin “entered the world” and spread to all mankind....how is it that there is ‘not one who does not sin’....if sin was something you did, and not something that is part of your being, there would be some who could avoid sinning.

Why did Jesus have to come into the world sinless in order to redeem mankind? Do you understand what redemption is?....how it works? It’s important to understand what sin is, before we can do something to combat it.

 

[Blue Dragonfly's]

Having the Bible’s view of “sin” is where we can distinguish between the two forms of sin that the Bible speaks about. Sin entered the world through Adam and his wife.....how? By inheritance. How do we inherit something that is genetically transmitted? At least one parent has to have a faulty gene to give their children a 50% chance of inheriting it....but if both parents carry the defective gene, the children are 100% doomed to inherit it. This is the sin of imperfection...both of our first parents lost their perfection the day that they ate from the TKGE.....that is the sin that leads to ageing, ill health, and death from a multitude of causes. How many ways are there to die?

Does death from any of those causes feel “natural”? The word “sin” is an archery term that simply means to “miss the mark”. The sin with which we are born, causes us to miss the mark of our original bodily and spiritual perfection, regardless of whether we sin deliberately or not. Babies can die of cancer, SIDS, and birth defects....that is the result of sin in the flesh....it’s got nothing to do with disobeying God. This is the “sin” that leads us to commit wrongdoing, which is the other sin....as Paul said in Romans 7. It influences us to do what we hate.


LOL....I think it already does....accidentally, disguised as people not wanting children but still wanting to enjoy sex......no?


Well, that is a bit extreme....taking a life without God’s sanction is murder.
The “soul” is not something that “enters” a body. That is a false belief because the Bible never uses the word “soul” for a disembodied spirit, as I hope I explained before. The “soul” is the living, breathing creature....both man and animal. Souls die....they do not enter and exit a body. It is the breath that does that. We begin breathing at birth and we cease breathing at death.....oxygen is what keeps a “soul” alive. The word “spirit in the Bible has a few different meanings, but universally, it refers, to.....that which is invisible to human sight and which gives evidence of force in motion. Such invisible force is capable of producing visible effects. The spirit has no personality.....it is not a conscious entity. The “soul” is the conscious entity and it breathes.


Sin “entered the world” and spread to all mankind....how is it that there is ‘not one who does not sin’....if sin was something you did, and not something that is part of your being, there would be some who could avoid sinning.

Why did Jesus have to come into the world sinless in order to redeem mankind? Do you understand what redemption is?....how it works? It’s important to understand what sin is, before we can do something to combat it.

. I do understand scripture,yes.

Thank you for your personal perspective.:)

May blessings and peace surround you.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Well that was quite the anti JW diatribe there bbyrd....do you feel better now?

I just love it when people accuse me of the very things they do themselves....what is your problem? You sound like you are only comfortable when you have no answers....or a bunch of possibilities that no one else has ever thought of.....but that's you....not me. The truth doesn't operate like that. Just because you are lost, doesn't mean everyone else has to be....that is the impression you give.

pls take these rhetorically, just things to think about ok; adressing them would leas to a crisis of your “faith,” which is not what im…well, i guess that is ezackly what im trying to do lol, lead you to “wrestling with God,” and thence to becoming Israel, which right now you are prohibited from doing, i guess

"Rhetorically" meaning that you have both finger in your ears, not wanting to hear anything said as truth because its not your truth....i get it...I really do....and "a crisis of faith" sounds more like you than me. I have no crisis and what I share is what I have learned over 50 years of careful study.
"Becoming Israel"??? you guess??? Maybe you have too many guesses and not enough truth?
You think I am "prohibited" from doing my own research? You have no idea.
If you don't want to hear it, put me on "ignore"....please.

"Wrestling with God" is apparently also what you feel the need to do.....I have no need to 'wrestle' because God has answered all my questions so satisfactorily, that I don't need to question more than I already have. (and believe me I question everything) I did all my serious questioning a very long time ago and when you find the truth, there is no need to question further.....faith means believing and not needing to find 'other' answers because there are no unanswered questions.....that is obviously your experience....but its not mine. A clear Bible truth doesn't alter....it can get clarified, but not really altered....except apparently by you. You sound completely lost...not to mention the fact that you post like an uneducated teenager...I was actually shocked to find that you were an adult. Is English not your first language?

see aunty, you are not currently allowed to even test everything, unless you are prepared to be outcast by your congregation, right? But i tell you that the day is going to come anyway, if you are truly seeking, and you might seek some testimony from former jw’s, those who have had the courage to change their minds, that they might move on to Jacob. Run while you still can imo, while you are young, and it is easier

That is probably the most ignorant thing I have heard you say here.....those who need their minds changed, never had the truth in their heart to begin with.
And it is clear to me that you have never had anything to do with JW's apart from what you have heard from ex's or other ignorant people.....but that's OK...it happened to Jesus too, and he told us to expect the same. (John 15:18-21) Imagine that....you are fulfilling prophesy....

 

[keithr]

Skovand1075 said:
what’s the purpose of the white throne judgement?
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but in this context i would ask why you think that occurs only after one has literally died?

Perhaps because of Hebrews 9:27-28 (WEB):

(27) Inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once, and after this, judgment,
(28) so Christ also, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, without sin, to those who are eagerly waiting for him for salvation.​

 

[keithr]

I have heard others say this, but in actuality, the resurrection of the body with a full restoration of the memories and personality traits, would still be you.

What if I were to tell you that every cell in your body is replaced every seven to ten years.....that process of cell renewal means that there is not a cell in your body that was there ten years ago....is that a clone of you? Or are you still you? God does not need a single molecule of the old body to create a new body and give it everything that made you who you were. If you recognise yourself, and others do too, how is it not *you*?

I believe that who we are is not just physical flesh and bones. We are our personality, character, memories, reasoning powers, etc.. That is not a physical thing. People who suffer from dementia can loose all their memories, intelligence, etc.. I saw it happen to my father, whose mind seemed to go in reverse, so that he degenerated back into a small child like person, unable to communicate. Who he was had disappeared. Will he be resurrected as that baby like person, having no significant personality and no memories of his former life. I hope not!

Some people liken us to a computer. The body is like the computer hardware, and the mind, who we really are, is like the software. The software is not physical; it has no mass. The computer without the software cannot function, but the software can be copied and put into other computers, and they will all perform the same and seem to be identical - clones. If the original computer hardware is destroyed, the other computers will nevertheless seem to be the same to us (some perhaps may have better hardware, but they will still function the same). Which one of those multiple computers is the real original computer?

Paul wrote, 2 Corinthians 5:1-8 (WEB):

(1) For we know that if the earthly house of our tent is dissolved, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal, in the heavens.
(2) For most certainly in this we groan, longing to be clothed with our habitation which is from heaven;
(3) if so be that being clothed we will not be found naked.
(4) For indeed we who are in this tent do groan, being burdened; not that we desire to be unclothed, but that we desire to be clothed, that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life.
(5) Now he who made us for this very thing is God, who also gave to us the down payment of the Spirit.
(6) Therefore we are always confident and know that while we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord;
(7) for we walk by faith, not by sight.
(8) We are courageous, I say, and are willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be at home with the Lord.​

So for Christians, although our human body will eventually be dissolved (perished), God will (in the resurrection) give us a spirit being body, similar to Jesus' current body, and we will live forever in heaven with him. He seems to be saying that we are clothed with a physical human body, that we can be unclothed (dead, unconscious and without a body), and that we will be clothed with an immortal spirit body. That sounds like what we actually are can exist even when the physcial body dies, but when the body dies who/what we are exists in an unconscious state, described by Jesus as a sleep. It could remain like that, it could be made conscious again and given a new body (physical or spiritual), or God can permanently destroy it.

In verse 2 above, the word translated habitation (or house) is oiketerion, which is the same word used in Jude 1:6 (KJV):

(6) And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.​

This is refering to the angels mentioned in Genesis 6:2 (WEB):

(2) God’s sons saw that men’s daughters were beautiful, and they took any that they wanted for themselves as wives.​

These angels left their heavenly position and came down to the earth, leaving their spirit body "house" or "habitation" and taking on a physical human body (male). It seems that angels too can be clothed with a spiritual or physical body. Demons too want to take possesion of human bodies (or dwelling place). So it seems reasonable to me to suppose that we too are similar to the angels (after all, we are made a little lower than the angels - Psalms 8:5, and Jesus also was made a little lower than the angels when he was made a man - Hebrews 2:9), so that the essence of who we are is not physcial, but spiritual. That's my best guess. :)

Matthew 10:28

(28) Don’t be afraid of those who kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul. Rather, fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.

Gehenna is a place of eternal death....both body and any prospects for future life are “destroyed” in this place. It is a place from which no one returns. God determines who is sent there.​

My point was that there is a distinction between body and soul, and only God can destroy the soul, but the body can be killed much more easily.