what about transgender ? what if you were born as transgender

[Holy999]

of course our glorified bodies will be perfect but what about now . do you support trans ?

 

[MA2444]

Ick. No. Do you think that God makes mistakes when He creates people?

 

[Holy999]

Ick. No. Do you think that God makes mistakes when He creates people?

well...........

 

[MA2444]

Romans 1:20
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:.../KJV

People choose of their own free will to be trans or gay. Here is the proof. All of creation (that's all the boys & girls too) can clearly see and understand God and His power and Godhead within themselves. They have no excuse. So it has to be the transformers choice to be a transformer.

I was born this way....Liar!! Every one of them.

 

[Wrangler]

Gender affirming is sex denying. God made sex. Satan invented transgender or the other 57 genders apart from what God made.

 

[MA2444]

Gender affirming is sex denying. God made sex. Satan invented transgender or the other 57 genders apart from what God made.

Exactly. So lifting the tail of the dog to check it's gender is still valid! We dont have to...ask the dog, Lol.

Even male dogs that have been neutered have a coin purse. Dont matter what you cut off it's still male.

 

[St. SteVen]

Gender affirming is sex denying. God made sex. Satan invented transgender or the other 57 genders apart from what God made.

That's the problem. Christians make this a B+W issue. It isn't.
Gender dysphoria is real. Real people with real issues.

Unethical treatment of LGBTQ humans / Understanding LGBTQ - 101

I'm still trying to help Christians understand this COMPLEX issue that they have reduced to a knee-jerk reaction. Notice the term "LGBTQ humans" in the topic title. I need to remind Christians that these people are human. - Sigh. :( Because they are typically treated by Christians as subhuman...

www.christianityboard.com

WWJD with LGBTQ?

Christians tend to treat LGBTQ as if it is a singular thing. It's not. It's a very complex subject that the church has, for the most part, swept under the rug. Those who have stepped up to be inclusive have taken the heat for it. And there is even a broad spectrum of how inclusion can play out...

www.christianityboard.com

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[MatthewG]

Isn't there a saying "Only God can judge me?" Someone invited me to go like a page on Instagram called "Gaysagainstgrooming" if there are gay people out there trying to protect children from getting groomed.... The person who invited me is someone who goes by "ifightforkids" and he had decoys and finds child predators and gets them arrested or at least make them known to the local police.

Do you support it?

 

[Wrangler]

That's the problem. Christians make this a B+W issue. It isn't.

It most certainly is a B + W issue. Right and wrong always is.

Gender dysphoria is real.

Another poster was hysterical in claiming gender dysphoria is NOT transgenderism.

Experts have pointed out that a 10,000+% increase in diagnosis over the last few years is a social contagion not a psychological problem.

 

[MA2444]

That's the problem. Christians make this a B+W issue. It isn't.
Gender dysphoria is real. Real people with real issues.

If you stood a naked man and a naked woman in front of you and set about determining their gender, it is a B-W issue!

They're evil spirits Steven. Prolly a spirit of Depravity, or a spirit of Homosexuality, or a spirit of Sexual Immorality, or a combination of them! Perhaps after the evil spirit has been there for awhie that a mental illness with the body would come from it. Is that gender dydphoria that you speak of.
Hey we can give you a pill that makes you feel like a girl? But scripture says no.

Romans 1:20
20 For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God..../NLT

So when they say that they are confused, they are lying. It's as simple as that.

Or have I misinterpreted Romans 1:20? (Lol)

 

[MA2444]

Isn't there a saying "Only God can judge me?" Someone invited me to go like a page on Instagram called "Gaysagainstgrooming" if there are gay people out there trying to protect children from getting groomed.... The person who invited me is someone who goes by "ifightforkids" and he had decoys and finds child predators and gets them arrested or at least make them known to the local police.

Do you support it?

That's a fair question. I do not think that I would support it. Gays know it is a choice and this is the grand age of Deception, so they could be using the Ifightforkids thing as a smoke screen for their activities? I dont know but I do know that they could easily be lying.

So I think the prudent choice is to stay away from those people and wait and see on Judgment day if they was lying or not. Geez they could try to make me a gay sympathizer or something!

 

[MA2444]

Romans 1:20
20 For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God..../NLT

Romans 1:20 tells us that every person knows within themseves the truth. It is too obvious to not see. Everybody knows the difference between right and wrong. Every person has a conscience which speaks to them constantly.

So Gaydom is an actual choice. No doubt about it. Yuck anyway!

Gaydom is a slap in the face of all women. And a slap in the face to God Himself. (Genesis 1:31) and God saw that it was very Good.

I was born gay...Lol! Liar!

 

[MatthewG]

Isn't there a saying "Only God can judge me?" Someone invited me to go like a page on Instagram called "Gaysagainstgrooming" if there are gay people out there trying to protect children from getting groomed.... The person who invited me is someone who goes by "ifightforkids" and he had decoys and finds child predators and gets them arrested or at least make them known to the local police.

Do you support it?

Anything that supports helping those who can not help themselves. And to keep them away from abuse, I definitely support those missions. For sure.


This would be more of a ethic - morality - comment I suppose.

That's a fair question. I do not think that I would support it. Gays know it is a choice and this is the grand age of Deception, so they could be using the Ifightforkids thing as a smoke screen for their activities? I dont know but I do know that they could easily be lying.

So I think the prudent choice is to stay away from those people and wait and see on Judgment day if they was lying or not. Geez they could try to make me a gay sympathizer or something!

I would support anything that helps get away people from Child and abusing them. I know the guy who runs "Ifightforkids,"

(recent catch) they been doing this for 5 years now, arrest in 49 states

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No doubt people can lie, Idk so much about the whole "Gaysagainstgrooming" however... you know people, will look down on people just for cussing, or using drugs, etc... there is no perfect human being on the planet that is all I know.

I am definitely for anyone out there helping out those who are vulnerable, even if DHR gets involved and helps get those children away from the Parents or people even foster parents who are abusive to those children.

 

[St. SteVen]

It most certainly is a B + W issue. Right and wrong always is.

Being born as a person with a female brain in a male body is a sin? (or vice versa) Since when?
Was this a choice? But there you are "Right or wrong" = B+W issue.

Another poster was hysterical in claiming gender dysphoria is NOT transgenderism.

This is a volatile issue. I'm glad that we are discussing it.

Experts have pointed out that a 10,000+% increase in diagnosis over the last few years is a social contagion not a psychological problem.

That seems to be an exaggeration, but there is currently an atmosphere to bring this out in the open.
Admittedly there is a social aspect driving this that is rather disturbing. It's not "cool" to be okay with your birth gender.
I agree that is a problem. Is the church helping or hurting?

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[JohnDB]

When someone decides they are Trans but have had to endure sexual assault they are not transgender but instead are suffering from gender dysforia as a result of the sexual assault. Such is in the news today with the Nashville shooter's manifesto being released by the FBI.

The girl had been adopted at an early age by her parents. She later received ADHD medication from a psychiatrist because in TN that is THE ONLY way those types of medications can be prescribed.

Then as her parents are wealthy professionals they sent her to a private school in Nashville where she did well until a school administrator began sexually assaulting her on a regular basis. When the girl told her parents they went to the school....who then did nothing and her parents continued to send her to that school. Where the pedophile continued to assault her.
Years later when more children told of this same pedophile assaulting them the school was about to fire him when he left for another state to be yet another school administrator.

The girl was unsuccessfully sent to therapy.

And this was the result.

So, no...she wasn't Trans. She was abused horribly and everyone failed this little girl in the worst ways imaginable.

 

[Windmill Charge]

Gender confusion is common among pre teens, it's part of the massive changes taking place in their bodies, but it is also something they they do grow out of.
See this study:- Development of Gender Non-Contentedness During Adolescence and Early Adulthood - Archives of Sexual Behavior

How should we respond to lgtb? With love, understanding and with the truth.
The truth that we are All sinners in need of a saviour. By not emphasising their particular sin, by by teaching that All sexual activity outside of marriage is sinful.
That a teenaged boy and girl having sex as part of a date is every bit as sinful as two gays having sex, that church leaders having extra marital affairs is because of the multiple betrayals is even worse than two gays having sex.

That we All need to repent of our personal sins and submit to biblical morality.

 

[Wrangler]

Being born as a person with a female brain in a male body is a sin? (or vice versa) Since when?

I didn't say sin. I said right and wrong.

The idea that a brain of one sex is in the body of another sex is the premise that I reject. It's absurd on its face.

 

[Wrangler]

That seems to be an exaggeration, but there is currently an atmosphere to bring this out in the open.

No. 10,000+% increase is NOT an exaggeration. Check the numbers.

And it is far worse than "an atmosphere to bring this out in the open;" it is an agenda, an attention seeking agenda. Watch youtube vids of young people regretting making irreversible sex changes. If gender is a social construct, why does it take surgery to correct?

Is the church helping or hurting?

It depends on what side of the aisle you are standing on.

 

[St. SteVen]

St. SteVen said:
Being born as a person with a female brain in a male body is a sin? (or vice versa) Since when?

I didn't say sin. I said right and wrong.

Wrong-doing isn't sin?

The idea that a brain of one sex is in the body of another sex is the premise that I reject. It's absurd on its face.

Hormones effect brain activity.
A body with high testosterone levels give a person a "male" brain.
A body with high estrogen levels give a person a "female" brain.

Is see men with female mannerisms and women with male mannerisms all the time.
I account it to hormone levels. Imagine what that might do to a person's sex drive?
Opposites attract.

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[Wrangler]

Wrong-doing isn't sin?

Dude! Open your mind.

Being metaphysically wrong is not being morally wrong. A 5 yo getting 2+2 wrong is not morally wrong.