WAS PETER ACCURSED?

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Here is the other Bible verse most often asserted to refute there being a gospel preached by Paul and another by Peter. If Peter was preaching another gospel, then he was accursed.

Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Paul was cursing anyone who perverted the gospel of Christ that he was preaching.

Paul went up to Jerusalem.

Galatians 2:2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain.
2:3 But neither Titus, who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised:
2:4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:
2:5 To whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.

The false brethren above were perverting the gospel of Christ, that Paul was preaching, by adding works of the law, saying circumcision was necessary.

Galatians 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
2:9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

When those of reputation, which included James, Cephas, and John acknowledged that Peter was preaching his gospel to the Jews and Paul was preaching his to the gentiles. James, Cephas, and John gave Paul their approval.

There was no antagonism between Peter and Paul over their preaching different gospels. There was however, by each, a recognition of the necessity of separation of their ministries. Paul did not curse Peter for preaching another gospel. Peter's gospel was not conflicting with Paul's gospel, nor perverting it.

In fact, the ministries of Peter and Paul were already set apart. Paul determined not to go into Peter's influence (2 Corinthians 10:14-16)

Acts 15:1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
15:2 When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.

The verse above may be the same time period as the account in Galatians.

Acts 15:3 And being brought on their way by the church, they passed through Phenice and Samaria, declaring the conversion of the Gentiles: and they caused great joy unto all the brethren.
15:4 And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.
15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
15:6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.

Peter was in attendance at this council, and as can be seen below, spoke against requiring that the Gentiles be circumcised. Peter was not adding the works of the law to salvation unto eternal life. Peter preached works that accompanied salvation; baptism for the remission of sins and to receive the Holy Ghost to be prepared to enter the Kingdom on earth.
Acts 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the LORD Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

By the way Peter was not speaking of the same grace as Paul in verse 11 above. Peter was saying that the gentiles were not saved by having to keep the law, but by faith, just as they were, by God's grace (Acts 15:9 Exodus 33:19)

After the council Paul went to Antioch.

15:35 Paul also and Barnabas continued in Antioch, teaching and preaching the word of the Lord, with many others also.

The account below may be the same time frame as Acts 15:35 above.

Galatians 2:11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
2:12 For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.

Paul blamed Peter for allowing the believing Jews, who were also zealous for the law, to deter Peter from holding to the truth, and the position he held on this matter. Peter feared being chastised by these Jews. Paul did not curse Peter, he rebuked him.

Acts 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:

Paul taught from the law and the prophets; he upheld and believed all that are written.

From the law and the prophets, Paul would have recognized that God promised a prophetic Kingdom on earth, wherein, Israel would be kings and priests, and rule and reign with Christ.

Exodus 19:6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel

Deuteronomy 30:4 If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the LORD thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee:
30:5 And the LORD thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers.

Jeremiah 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.

Peter was preaching the gospel of the circumcision; he was preaching that Jesus was Lord and Christ; he was preaching that Jesus was crucified and rose again; he was preaching that Christ's resurrection assured the fulfilling of His return to establish His Kingdom on earth to believing Israel.

Below, Peter was preaching.

Acts 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Paul, knowing that Peter was an Apostle in whom God was working, and knowing the law and prophets, would have been in complete accord with Peter's gospel and God's prophetic program for Israel.

Peter was not accursed. Peter never preached his gospel to those whose believed Paul's gospel and Paul never preached Peter's gospel.
 

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Paul cannot claim Peter,a man who walked and spoke with Jesus, was acursed for spreading the Gospel.

Paul was acursed. Not Peter.
 

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Newbies are in a particularly vulnerable position. Jesus points out in his explanation of the parable of the sower:

”The seed is the word of God. Those beside the road are those who have heard; then the devil comes and takes away the word from their heart, so that they will not believe and be saved.”

(Luke 8:11-12, NASB)

”The sower sows the word. These are the ones who are beside the road where the word is sown; and when they hear, immediately Satan comes and takes away the word which has been sown in them.”

(Mark 4:14-15)

”When anyone hears the word of the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and sbatches away what has been sown in his heart. This is the one on whom seed was sown on the road.”

(Matthew 13:19)

The word of God -> the word -> the word of the kingdom -> is the seed of immortality. It is the devil, not Paul, nor any of the other apostles - and certainly not God nor the Messiah - who doesn’t want anyone to hear the Messiah preaching the gospel of God (Mark 1:14-15).
 

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It must be made perfectly clear to newbies that neither Peter nor Paul were / are accursed.
 

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Sure. Many have known this for quite awhile.



1 Corinthians 5:1-6
Cant access your link You will have to tell me if you care too

As far as 1 Corinthians 5:1-6

[1Co 5:5 KJV] 5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

This is saying the offending person is to be removed among them
Below are supporting verses
[1Co 5:2, 9, 11, 13 KJV] 2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you. ... 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: ... 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. ... 13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
 

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As far as 1 Corinthians 5:1-6

[1Co 5:5 KJV] 5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

This is saying the offending person is to be removed among them
Below are supporting verses
[1Co 5:2, 9, 11, 13 KJV] 2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you. ... 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: ... 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. ... 13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
Jesus spoke of His second coming and how it would occur.

Jesus ascended in His glorified body to Heaven.

Prior to this He told us He saw Lucifer fall like lightening to Earth.

Jesus would not,did not,return to Earth in an immitation of Lucifer a second time falling like a light on the road to Damascus.

Jesus warned us there would be those who would come in his name,saying they had seen Him, and had performed as proof of this signs and wonders. And Jesus said,don't believe them.

Paul's own testimony tells us he was not in Christ. He was in the flesh.

He also contradicts Jesus teachings in many cases.

And,he cursed the Apostles of Christ should they,anyone,bring a different gospel than HIS gospel.

He referred to his teachings at least 12 times as, his gospel.

If we follow Paul we are lost. We are Pauline. Not Christian.

Paul claimed Jesus did not send him to Baptize.

Jews knew ritual washing in readiness for Messiahs arrival.
Paul even boasted he was glad he did not Baptize some people.
Of course.
Think. Would Jesus tell his Apostles to not Baptize?
 
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I dont get this please elaborate
From the Link.

Paul Encountered Satan - Not Christ - on the Road to Damascus​


"Excellent brother.... There it is in Luke 10: 18 as you have brought to our attention. The answer is in the Word. Can't emphasize enough how much of a load you've lifted from me by exposing the anti-Mashiach Shaul of Tarsus. It is much clearer to see the Gospels of our Adon Immanuel with the letters of Shaul out of the way.

Praise the Mighty One of Yisra'el for giving you the spirit of discernment."

Todah, R. Albanese

The evidence is overwhelmingly obvious when you know THE TRUTH and understand THE SPOKEN WORD OF GOD. If the Son of God describes Satan, it appears like Satan, and deceives like Satan - common sense tells you IT IS SATAN.

The Messiah describes Satan CLEARLY FOR ALL TO IDENTIFY HIM - anyone with an ounce of common sense should know CHRIST WOULD NEVER APPEAR IN THE SAME WAY AS SATAN, secondly, Christ certainly WOULD NOT break His own Word or that of the Prophets to arrive more than twice to earth, and third, He would NOT appear contrary as prophesied descending from the clouds with power and great glory” (Matthew 24:30) that “every eye will see Him (Revelation 1:7) upon His 2nd Coming.



CHRIST WARNED THAT SATAN WAS COMING SOON AFTER HIM...

"I don't have much more time to talk to you, because the ruler of this world approaches..." John 14:30

Note: This is PRECISELY what happened IMMEDIATELY AFTER Christ's 4 Gospels after His ascencion to heaven with the deceiving Satan who deceived and manipulated the troubled Pharisee Paul to teach a Lawless doctrine - COMPLETELY CONTRARY to that of Christ's Law-keeping Gospel to enter the Kingom of Heaven and in so doing, DECEIVE THE WHOLE WORLD..



CHRIST DESCRIBES SATAN AS A LIGHT FROM HEAVEN

16 "Whoever listens to you listens to Me; whoever rejects you rejects Me; and whoever rejects Me rejects the One who sent Me.” 17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name. 18 And He said unto them, I BEHELD SATAN AS LIGHTning FALL FROM HEAVEN." Luke 10:16-18

Note: This is PRECISELY how Satan appeared to Paul.



HOW DOES PAUL DESCRIBE SATAN?

"And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into AN ANGEL OF LIGHT" 2 Corinthians." 11:14

Note: This is PRECISELY what Paul saw on the road to Damascus



WHAT DOES PAUL DESCRIBE SEEING ON THE ROAD TO DAMASCUS?

Version 1:

"[Saul] was approaching Damascus, suddenly A LIGHT FROM HEAVEN FLASHED around him. " Acts 9:3

Version 2:

"While I was…approaching Damascus… A GREAT LIGHT FROM HEAVEN suddenly SHONE about me." Acts 22:6

Version 3:

"I was traveling to Damascus…A LIGHT FROM HEAVEN, brighter than the sun, SHINING around me and my companions." Acts 26:12

In every one of Paul's 3 contradictory versions, ONE thing remains constant - he saw A SHINING LIGHT FROM HEAVEN - describing PRECISELY how Christ describes Satan (Luke 10:18), how the Prophet Isaiah describes Satan (Isaiah 14:12) and how Paul himself describes Satan (2 Corinthians 11:14)



Lucifer (/ˈluːsɪfər/;[1][2][3] loo-sif-ər) is the King James Version rendering of the Hebrew word הֵילֵל in Isaiah 14:12. This word, transliterated hêlêl[4] or heylel,[5] occurs once in the Hebrew Bible[4] and according to the KJV-based Strong's Concordance means "SHINING ONE, LIGHT-bearer".[5] Lucifer - Wikipedia

For those who claim that the description of the Messiah in Revelation 22:16 and Lucifer's in Isaiah 14:12 are the same are either ignorant or unfamiliar with Hebrew & Greek linguistics. The description of the Messiah in Revelation 22:16 is the following: Revelation 22:16 Lexicon: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star." and Lucifers is: Isaiah 14:12 Lexicon: "How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations! THEY ARE CLEARLY NOT THE SAME.



MANY WILL COME IN MY NAME

Christ warned repeatedly that "many will come in my name claiming I am the Messiah" or "I am He" (Luke 21:8, Mark 13:6, Matthew 24:5) - this is PRECISELY what Satan claimed to Paul - coming in the name of "Jesus the Nazarene". Satan was literally the first of many false, deceiving Jesus Christs (Messiahs) who have followed since.



A WORLD DECEIVED

Christianity's foundation that one is "saved by grace" and that the Law (Torah) is a curse and "nailed to the cross" - something Christ NEVER preached - is based on the single, contradictory testimony of a known saint-persecutor, deceiver, and schizophrenic Pharisee hypocrite named Paul (AntiChristPaul.com) who quite clearly and obviously encountered Satan and not Christ who does not and will not return after His ascension to Heaven UNTIL His 2nd Coming in bodily form in great glory for ALL THE WORLD TO SEE - and NOT like Satan as a light to just one fork-tongued Pharisee.

It was Satan who instructed Paul to contradict and teach THE OPPOSITE OF CHRIST's GOSPEL to keep His Law in order to deny billions the Kingdom of Heaven - which is why Christ casts out Satan WHO DECEIVES THE WHOLE WORLD - ONLY Christianity and ALL its cults spread throughout the entire world as no other religion and whose influence is unmatched as no other event or movement in ALL of mankind's history fits this description - NONE:

"And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." Revelation 12:9

The evidence is overwhelmingly obvious and logical for those who are Called - the deceiving, bi-polar hypocrite Pharisee encountered Satan and not the Son of God on the road to Damascus - this clearly explains why Paul would teach a Lawless gospel COMPLETELY CONTRARY to the Word of the Father, the Law of Moses, the Prophets, the Psalms and Christ's Law-keeping Gospel to enter the Kingdom of Heaven - after all, this was why He was sent by His Father:

"But he replied, "I must preach the Good News of the Kingdom of God in other towns, too, because that is why I was sent." Luke 4:43



BOTTOM LINE:

Face it Christians - YOU'VE BEEN DECEIVED BY SATAN and his false apostle Paul who got you to DENY & REJECT the very Word of God to keep His Law to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

Here's far more evidence further proving ALL of the above:

AntiChrisPaul.com

ChristianityisAntiChrist.com

TheGodReligion.com

TheNazareneCode.com



A GREAT AWAKENING HAS BEGUN

Let this TRUTH speak to your heart, mind, and soul - START TODAY to become one of God's Chosen & Set-Apart ones - keep His Law (Torah) as He commanded you to do to join Him and His Father in the Kingdom of Heaven - Visit TheGodReligion.com

 

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Let this TRUTH speak to your heart, mind, and soul - START TODAY to become one of God's Chosen & Set-Apart ones - keep His Law (Torah) as He commanded you to do to join Him and His Father in the Kingdom of Heaven - Visit TheGodReligion.com
I will only say that Satan is said to be cast out as lighting not lightening itself....not light as in Damascus

In my opinion Satan would like nothing better than get rid of Paul....he would like us to be blinded to the mystery revealed to Paul
[1Co 2:7-8 KJV] 7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, [even] the hidden [wisdom], which God ordained before the world unto our glory: 8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known [it], they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

He would like us to be blinded to Paul's gospel
[2Co 4:4 KJV] 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

He would like us to be ignorant that the body of Christ will supplant him and his angels in heavenly places
[2Co 4:4 KJV] 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
 

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I will only say that Satan is said to be cast out as lighting not lightening itself....not light as in Damascus

In my opinion Satan would like nothing better than get rid of Paul....he would like us to be blinded to the mystery revealed to Paul
[1Co 2:7-8 KJV] 7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, [even] the hidden [wisdom], which God ordained before the world unto our glory: 8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known [it], they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

He would like us to be blinded to Paul's gospel
[2Co 4:4 KJV] 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

He would like us to be ignorant that the body of Christ will supplant him and his angels in heavenly places
[2Co 4:4 KJV] 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
On my view Christ warned against Paul's arrival. Paul even fulfilled much of what Jesus said would be said by those we were not to believe and that would come after Jesus had ascended.

Implying by their arrival that Jesus left before He was finished in His Earthly mission.

Even Revelation shows us Jesus warning again against Saul-Paul. Revelation 2:2
(Acts 23:6)

The lightening equivocation does not change the fact Jesus did not ascend as a light. He would not make a second coming in the Damascus road and appear to a murderer Pharisee.
 

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I dont get the problem with Jesus of Nazareth being some sort of thing to condemn Paul for saying

John 18:4 Jesus therefore, knowing all things that should come upon him, went forth, and said unto them, Whom seek ye?

John 18:5 They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus saith unto them, I am he. And Judas also, which betrayed him, stood with them.

John 18:6 As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground.

Same here

Acts 22:6 And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.

Acts 22:7 And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

Acts 22:7 And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.

Peter calls him Jesus Christ of Nazareth

Acts 3:6 Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.

Thats why Paul says

Acts 26:9 I verily thought with myself, that I ought to do many things contrary to the name of Jesus of Nazareth.


Earlier the same thing

Acts 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

Philip in

John 1:45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.
 

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Pepper you keep pounding on him in this right here

Christ warned repeatedly that "many will come in my name claiming I am the Messiah" or "I am He" (Luke 21:8, Mark 13:6, Matthew 24:5)

Trying to connect it to Paul being deceived by Satan, for example here

- this is PRECISELY what Satan claimed to Paul - coming in the name of "Jesus the Nazarene". Satan was literally the first of many false, deceiving Jesus Christs (Messiahs) who have followed since.

When Jesus asked them in John 18:4 saying,

Whom seek ye?

John 18:5 They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth.

Jesus saith unto them, I am he.

Not Satan
 
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Jesus was transfigured before Peter, James and John, and this is what they saw

Mat 17:2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.

After this experience

Mat 17:9 And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead.

It was a vision

Likewise does Paul tells us what ocurred here (at mid-day) or sixth hour

Acts 26:13 At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me.

And Paul ends it with

Acts 26:19 Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision:

It was a vision
 

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On my view Christ warned against Paul's arrival. Paul even fulfilled much of what Jesus said would be said by those we were not to believe and that would come after Jesus had ascended.

Implying by their arrival that Jesus left before He was finished in His Earthly mission.

Even Revelation shows us Jesus warning again against Saul-Paul. Revelation 2:2
(Acts 23:6)

The lightening equivocation does not change the fact Jesus did not ascend as a light. He would not make a second coming in the Damascus road and appear to a murderer Pharisee.
If I get this right you are saying that all Paul said was of the devil
If so please consider this verse
[2Pe 3:15-16 KJV] 15 And account [that] the longsuffering of our Lord [is] salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16 As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
Peter said what Paul wrote was scripture....it cant be that scripture is of the devil
What does God say about all of scripture?
[2Ti 3:16 KJV] 16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Given by inspiration of God
 

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If I get this right you are saying that all Paul said was of the devil
If so please consider this verse
[2Pe 3:15-16 KJV] 15 And account [that] the longsuffering of our Lord [is] salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16 As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
Peter said what Paul wrote was scripture....it cant be that scripture is of the devil
What does God say about all of scripture?
[2Ti 3:16 KJV] 16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Given by inspiration of God

Supposedly Luke (of the gospel of Luke) which is the first treatise and the book of Acts (Acts 1:1) wrote deceptively of the vision of both Paul and Ananias (Acts 9:11) who was told of what Paul saw (in his vision) before they came together. But these are all deceived (rolls eyes). And Paul testifying that it was "Jesus of Nazareth" in Acts 22:7 who appeared to him is yet another form of deception (of Satan ofcourse) when it was Jesus himself went out to those who were looking for him and asked them who they were looking for.

Jesus asked them in John 18:4

Whom seek ye?

John 18:5 They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth.

Jesus saith unto them, I am he.

Thats in the book of John and so now John has gotta be deceived to (writing a false witness of the account).

And yet the one apostle Jesus looked at and actually addressed Satan through tells us that Paul is a beloved brother, so I am waiting for some more twists and turns in this story as it seems to write itself as it goesclfh