Was Adam Imparted Free Will From The Beginning Of Creation?

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amigo de christo

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FOR every man be as guilty as Adam , FOR EVERY MAN HAS SINNED
FOR Every woman be as guilty as EVE , for EVERY WOMAN has SINNED .
BUT NOT JESUS . HE NEVER SINNED .
HE came out of GLORY to take on the form on mankind .
TO LIVE PERFECTLY , TO FULLFILL THE PERFECT RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD that NO MAN COULD , NO WOMAN COULD .
THEN PAID THE PRICE OF OUR SINS SO that ALL WHO DO BELIEVE COULD BE SAVED .
WANT ETERNAL LIFE
WANT SALVATION
WANT TO BE MADE RIGHTEOUS
COUNTED JUST ,
THEN RUN TO CHRIST . HE ALONE . HE ALONE IS THE ONLY NAME THAT SAVES .
Budda and good works saveth none FOR ALL HAVE SINNED
Muslim religoin and good works SAVETH NONE , FOR ALL HAVE SINNED and come SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD .
ATHEISM and good works SAVETH NONE . FOR ALL HAVE SINNED and come SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD
HINDUSIM and good works SAVETH NONE , FOR ALL HAVE SINNED and COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD .
SO DONT BUY THIS ALL INCLUSIVE RELIGOIN . FOR ALL HAVE SINNED , NONE IS GOOD , NONE IS RIGHTEOUSNESS
AND ALL HAVE FALLEN and DO FALL SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD .
THERE is but one name that saves , any other GRAVES .
BELIEVE YE IN CHRIST JESUS . AND IT BETTER BE THE BIBLICAL CHRIST . cause i got news
any other jesus , CANNOT SAVE .
NO MAN CAN PERSAUDE ME OTHERWISE . I SHUN the all inclusive lie to HELL . I POINT TO CHRIST AND HE ALONE .
 

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DO NOTICE that same excuse didnt work on GOD EITHER .
THE SERPENT , HE BEGULIED ME and I DID EAT .
DID GOD THEN EXCUSE EVE . NOPE .
What does "begulied" mean? If you are going to quote your beloved KJV -- how can you understand early 17th Century Engyshe? -- it says, "And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat." By golly, clarity is important, particularly when quoting God's word.
 

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What does "begulied" mean? If you are going to quote your beloved KJV -- how can you understand early 17th Century Engyshe? -- it says, "And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat." By golly, clarity is important, particularly when quoting God's word.
Believe it or not jim . MOST FOLKS KNOW what it means . DECIEVED , TRICKED , ETC . But since apparently you dont
well there it is . As i said and wrote above . YOU FIND FAULT and complain non stop .
TOLERANCE , where is the so called tolerance now jim . EXACTLY .
ITS not my english , or lack thereof you despise . ITS THE TRUTH I bring .
 

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Believe it or not jim . MOST FOLKS KNOW what it means . DECIEVED , TRICKED , ETC . But since apparently you dont
well there it is . As i said and wrote above . YOU FIND FAULT and complain non stop .
TOLERANCE , where is the so called tolerance now jim . EXACTLY .
ITS not my english , or lack thereof you despise . ITS THE TRUTH I bring .
Yes, the issue is not spelling but doctrine. Who is teaching the Word of God?
 
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amigo de christo

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Yes, the issue is not spelling but doctrine. Who is teaching the Word of God?
Oh i know my friend . I know . He comes after any and all who wont and dont adopt his beloved
all inclusive liberal social gospel stuff . Anyone who dares to correct sin within the church,
WELL to be fair i should say CERTAIN PC SINS . JIM COMES AFTER LIKE A RAGING BULL .
How dare ye tell the church that homosexuality or abortion is sin sayeth the jim .
 

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FOR every man be as guilty as Adam , FOR EVERY MAN HAS SINNED
FOR Every woman be as guilty as EVE , for EVERY WOMAN has SINNED .
BUT NOT JESUS . HE NEVER SINNED .
HE came out of GLORY to take on the form on mankind .
TO LIVE PERFECTLY , TO FULLFILL THE PERFECT RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD that NO MAN COULD , NO WOMAN COULD .
THEN PAID THE PRICE OF OUR SINS SO that ALL WHO DO BELIEVE COULD BE SAVED .
WANT ETERNAL LIFE
WANT SALVATION
WANT TO BE MADE RIGHTEOUS
COUNTED JUST ,
THEN RUN TO CHRIST . HE ALONE . HE ALONE IS THE ONLY NAME THAT SAVES .
Budda and good works saveth none FOR ALL HAVE SINNED
Muslim religoin and good works SAVETH NONE , FOR ALL HAVE SINNED and come SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD .
ATHEISM and good works SAVETH NONE . FOR ALL HAVE SINNED and come SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD
HINDUSIM and good works SAVETH NONE , FOR ALL HAVE SINNED and COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD .
SO DONT BUY THIS ALL INCLUSIVE RELIGOIN . FOR ALL HAVE SINNED , NONE IS GOOD , NONE IS RIGHTEOUSNESS
AND ALL HAVE FALLEN and DO FALL SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD .
THERE is but one name that saves , any other GRAVES .
BELIEVE YE IN CHRIST JESUS . AND IT BETTER BE THE BIBLICAL CHRIST . cause i got news
any other jesus , CANNOT SAVE .
NO MAN CAN PERSAUDE ME OTHERWISE . I SHUN the all inclusive lie to HELL . I POINT TO CHRIST AND HE ALONE .
Nice going, amigo! Very few grammatical mistakes,

That isn't the case with your (mis)interpretation of Scripture. Here is the section of Romans in context...

Romans 3:21-26, "But now, apart from the law, the righteousness of God has been disclosed and is attested by the Law and the Prophets, the righteousness of God through the faith of Jesus Christ[d] for all who believe. For there is no distinction, since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God; they are now justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God put forward as a sacrifice of atonement by his blood, effective through faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over the sins previously committed; it was to demonstrate at the present time his own righteousness, so that he is righteous and he justifies the one who has the faith of Jesus."
 

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@amigo de christo .......Hallelujah and Praise Jesus!!.....
FOR every man be as guilty as Adam , FOR EVERY MAN HAS SINNED
FOR Every woman be as guilty as EVE , for EVERY WOMAN has SINNED .
BUT NOT JESUS . HE NEVER SINNED .
HE came out of GLORY to take on the form on mankind .
TO LIVE PERFECTLY , TO FULLFILL THE PERFECT RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD that NO MAN COULD , NO WOMAN COULD .
THEN PAID THE PRICE OF OUR SINS SO that ALL WHO DO BELIEVE COULD BE SAVED .
WANT ETERNAL LIFE
WANT SALVATION
WANT TO BE MADE RIGHTEOUS
COUNTED JUST ,
THEN RUN TO CHRIST . HE ALONE . HE ALONE IS THE ONLY NAME THAT SAVES .
Budda and good works saveth none FOR ALL HAVE SINNED
Muslim religoin and good works SAVETH NONE , FOR ALL HAVE SINNED and come SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD .
ATHEISM and good works SAVETH NONE . FOR ALL HAVE SINNED and come SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD
HINDUSIM and good works SAVETH NONE , FOR ALL HAVE SINNED and COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD .
SO DONT BUY THIS ALL INCLUSIVE RELIGOIN . FOR ALL HAVE SINNED , NONE IS GOOD , NONE IS RIGHTEOUSNESS
AND ALL HAVE FALLEN and DO FALL SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD .
THERE is but one name that saves , any other GRAVES .
BELIEVE YE IN CHRIST JESUS . AND IT BETTER BE THE BIBLICAL CHRIST . cause i got news
any other jesus , CANNOT SAVE .
NO MAN CAN PERSAUDE ME OTHERWISE . I SHUN the all inclusive lie to HELL . I POINT TO CHRIST AND HE ALONE .
 
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Nice going, amigo! Very few grammatical mistakes,

That isn't the case with your (mis)interpretation of Scripture. Here is the section of Romans in context...

Romans 3:21-26, "But now, apart from the law, the righteousness of God has been disclosed and is attested by the Law and the Prophets, the righteousness of God through the faith of Jesus Christ[d] for all who believe. For there is no distinction, since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God; they are now justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God put forward as a sacrifice of atonement by his blood, effective through faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over the sins previously committed; it was to demonstrate at the present time his own righteousness, so that he is righteous and he justifies the one who has the faith of Jesus."
Yep . I know that . ITS those who try and imply MUSLIMS and OTHER RELIGOINS
are serving the same GOD we do that have no UNDERSTANDING at alll jim .
KNOW anyone like that do ya .
IF EVEN the unbeliving jews were told by JESUS ye are of your FATHER the DEVIL .
want on earth makes you think the muslims who preach another jesus , dont even BELIEVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST
OR THE SON OF GOD , FOLLOWS GOD JIM . YOU have bought a LIE big time .
ITS ME who continually points to JESUS CHRIST .
 

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Men have the freedom to do whatever they like... or so they believe. If and when they choose anything other than God they are moving in the wrong direction whether they see it or not:

Jos 24:15And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

Joshua was given to understand the only two real choices that any man has always had: Serve God or not.

Jeremiah tells us how it is for the man who is essentially directing or trying to direct his own way:

Jer 10:23O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Man may be going what he calls his own way, but not in God. If it is not in or for God is not against God? Consider these verses:


Ro 8:31What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

Lu 9:49And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us.
Lu 9:50And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.

We do choose Him, but if we are not serious in our direction toward Him will He ever choose us? Choosing Him is ultimately meaningless if He does not choose us!

Jesus chose 12 disciples who would be apostles, but there was one who...

Joh 17:12While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

God has, I believe, foreknowledge, of man's choice, but man makes his choice to let God lead the way or not... If God is not leading, look out!
 
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Oh i know my friend . I know . He comes after any and all who wont and dont adopt his beloved
all inclusive liberal social gospel stuff . Anyone who dares to correct sin within the church,
WELL to be fair i should say CERTAIN PC SINS . JIM COMES AFTER LIKE A RAGING BULL .
How dare ye tell the church that homosexuality or abortion is sin sayeth the jim .
You keep spouting about the "all inclusive liberal social gospel" but have never defined what that is. It's just catchy jargon and self-glorification but really means nothing.

And I never said "How dare ye tell the church that homosexuality or abortion is sin". That is a total lie (even if it was written correctly). Remember, Ananias died when he lied. You're lucky you escaped!
 

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What makes you think that just cause some muslims can do good things they must have the love of GOD in them JIM .
WHEN EVEN JESUS TOLD the JEWS . THE JEWS , YE HAVE NOT THE LOVE OF GOD IN YOU .
IF YOU LOVED GOD YOU WOULD HAVE LOVED ME . BELIEVED ON HIM .
JIM , stop believing the lie that muslims serve or know the same GOD we do .
IS it cause they claim MOSES .
WELL , lets examine that jim .
JESUS told the jews , HAD YOU BELIEVED MOSES YOU WOULD HAVE BELEIVED ME .
IF YOU cant believe HIS writings HOW WILL YOU BELIEVE ME .
THE MUSLIMS DONT KNOW GOD JIM . EVEN the jews who had torah , YET BELEIVED NOT ON CHRIST
DIDNT really know MOSES , TORAH , the very prophets they thought they did .
THEY DIDNT EVEN KNOW THE VERY GOD they claimed to KNOW JIM . JESUS TOLD THEM THAT .
SO stop making excuse for the lie that says MUSLIMS KNOW OUR GOD . THEY DONT . THEY DO NOT .
 
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