Understanding Bible Prophecy of the End Time

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Jude Thaddeus

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Careful research and honest analysis. Just as I would expect from a Catholic.

I'm not aware of any "moral mess" affecting the Anglican communion that comes within a mile of approaching the moral mess that Catholic pedophile priests have left in their wake.
Sooo, you wanna play rough? Playing the sex abuse card always backfires, a handy bat used when losing a debate.
But honestly, I don't see what that has to do with Chadwick. Are you suggesting that Chadwick was not a competent historian because (a) he was Anglican, and (b) Anglicans are morally messed up?
No, because (a) Chadwick is biased and his quote is full of holes and (b) Anglicans dropped the bomb at the Lambeth conference, 1930, the first non-Catholic church to give the green light on contraception.
Yes, I am aware. But I suspect that for every Anglican cleric crossing the Tiber, we can find a Catholic cleric crossing the Thames.
Such a suspicion is easily dismantled. We can start with ANGLICAN bishop, later Cardinal J.H. Newman. There were/are so many Anglicans crossing the Tiber, the Church had to accommodate the large numbers with the Anglican Ordinate. You guys lost whole diocese and many bishops.
 

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I'm not aware of any "moral mess" affecting the Anglican communion that comes within a mile of approaching the moral mess that Catholic pedophile priests have left in their wake.
Had a casual reader of the published reports and resolutions been unfamiliar with the proceedings of the 1930 conference – which the English press covered at length – she or he may have been surprised to discover that the same subcommittee which warned of the moral and national dangers associated with birth control also submitted a resolution to the conference in favor of contraception.
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MEDIA BLACKOUT ON CLERGY ABUSE DATA​

Bill Donohue
Whenever there is a whiff of bad news about the Catholic Church, the mainstream media never miss a beat in reporting it. But when there is good news, they go mute. The latest example is the news about the almost complete eradication of clergy sexual abuse. Not one secular media outlet in the United States ran a story on this issue.

Every year, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) issues an annual report on clergy sexual abuse. The audit is prepared by StoneBridge Business Partners, which works in cooperation with the National Review Board for the Protection of Children and Young People, a lay advisory board established by the USCCB.

The 2023 report, which covered allegations made between July 1, 2022 and June 30, 2023, found that there were 1,308 allegations involving 17 current year minors. Four of the allegations were made by males and 11 by females; 2 were listed as unknown. Of the 17, only 3 were substantiated.

During this period, there were 47,987 members of the clergy. This means that 0.006 percent of them had a substantiated case of sexual abuse made against him by a minor. (In the previous year’s report, there were 7 substantiated cases.)

Of the accused, 91 percent are either dead or have been kicked out of ministry.
If there had been a sharp uptick in the number of cases, it would be all over the news. Such a story would have been picked up by the Associated Press, the Los Angeles Times, the New York Times, the Washington Post, NPR, PBS, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC—and every left-wing internet and social media site. But because this problem has all been wiped out, practically no one knows anything about it.

The fact that more females than males are making these allegations suggests that the crackdown on homosexuals in the priesthood has worked. They are responsible for 8-in-10 cases of the sexual abuse of minors (only a very small percentage of these offenses have ever been committed by pedophiles). For more detail on this see my book, The Truth about Clergy Sexual Abuse: Clarifying the Facts and the Causes.

Congratulations to the bishops for implementing the necessary reforms. And shame on journalists and the talking heads for the total media blackout. There is no other organization in the nation where adults regularly interact with minors that has a better record on this issue than the Catholic Church.
 

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Sooo, you wanna play rough? Playing the sex abuse card always backfires, a handy bat used when losing a debate.
I am surprised you see this as a debate that can be won or lost. This isn't a contest, is it? If you think you need to "win," and that I am "losing" by responding in kind to your "moral mess" comment -- immediately followed by my noting that it has no relevance to our discussion -- we are both wasting our time. Nobody wins or loses in an online "debate." I'm here for honest discussion, not to establish some kind of intellectual victory over an anonymous person I will never meet.

(a) Chadwick is biased and his quote is full of holes and (b) Anglicans dropped the bomb at the Lambeth conference, 1930, the first non-Catholic church to give the green light on contraception.
(a) Is every non-Catholic historian biased against the Catholic position, and is no Catholic historian biased in favor of the Catholic position? I accuse nobody of intellectual dishonesty based solely on their denomination. Are you going to point out Chadwick's holes, or simply rely on bias? (b) The Catholic declaration that contraception is sinful is ignored even by many Catholics. 4. Very few Americans see contraception as morally wrong
 

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The Catholic declaration that contraception is sinful is ignored even by many Catholics.
Yes, I am aware of that. The Church doesn't expect couples to pump out babies one after another. It's not a simplistic issue. That's why the Church proclaimed Humanae Vitae, which is the MAIN REASON the world hates us so much. It's all about sex, isn't it?

TO THE CLERGY AND FAITHFUL OF THE WHOLE CATHOLIC WORLD, AND TO ALL MEN OF GOOD WILL,
ON THE REGULATION OF BIRTH

Exodus 23:25-26; Deut. 7:13-14 – God promises blessings which include no miscarriages or barrenness. Children are blessings from God, and married couples must always be open to God’s plan for new life with every act of marital intimacy.

Psalm 127:3-5 – children are a gift of favor from God and blessed is a full quiver. Married couples must always be open to God’s precious gift of life. Contraception, which shows a disregard for human life, has lead to the great evils of abortion, euthanasia, and infanticide.

Mal. 2:14 – marriage is not a contract (which is a mere exchange of property or services). It is a covenant, which means a supernatural exchange of persons. Just as God is three in one, so are a husband and wife, who become one flesh and bring forth new life, three in one. Marital love is a reflection of the Blessed Trinity.

Rom.1:26-27 – sexual acts without the possibility of procreation is sinful. Self-giving love is life-giving love, or the love is a lie. The unitive and procreative elements of marital love can never be divided, or the marital love is also divided, and God is left out of the marriage.

Eph. 5:25 – Paul instructs husbands to love their wives as Christ loved the Church, by giving his entire body to her and holding nothing back. With contraception, husbands tell their wives, I love you except your fertility, and you can have me except for my fertility. This love is a lie because it is self-centered, and not self-giving and life-giving.

Natural Family Planning is safe, effective and doesn't override God's moral laws.

Rev. 9:21; 21:8; 22:15; Gal. 5:20 – these verses mention the word “sorcery.” The Greek word is “pharmakeia” which includes abortifacient potions such as birth control pills. These pharmakeia are mortally sinful. Moreover, chemical contraception does not necessarily prevent conception, but may actually kill the child in the womb after conception has occurred (by preventing the baby from attaching to the uterine wall). Contraception is a lie that has deceived millions, but the Church is holding her arms open wide to welcome back her children who have strayed from the truth.

we are both wasting our time.
Agreed.
 
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Careful research and honest analysis. Just as I would expect from a Catholic.

I'm not aware of any "moral mess" affecting the Anglican communion that comes within a mile of approaching the moral mess that Catholic pedophile priests have left in their wake. But honestly, I don't see what that has to do with Chadwick. Are you suggesting that Chadwick was not a competent historian because (a) he was Anglican, and (b) Anglicans are morally messed up?


Yes, I am aware. But I suspect that for every Anglican cleric crossing the Tiber, we can find a Catholic cleric crossing the Thames.


Cute!
Every religion serving the trinity God created by Catholicism are up the creek without a paddle.
 

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Every religion serving the trinity God created by Catholicism are up the creek without a paddle.
So, the NWT is "up the creek without a paddle"! It declares Jesus God and Hell fire EVERLASTING! JW's don't even believe their own bible. They follow Satan's Governing Body to Hell fire!
 
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The principle defence of Catholicism against the charges of being the antichrist of Scripture is based on Scripture, as it should be, and specifically on the declaration by the apostle John that the antichrist, not necessarily by confession, but by practise and teaching, deny that the Son came in the flesh. While there were some who at one time taught that Jesus was a ghost, and not a physical person, such a belief was easily proven wrong, did not deceive more than a few people, was relatively short lived, and a long long way from what the apostle must have been alluding to when he said that the antichrist would deny that Jesus came in the flesh. He was not talking about physicality.
The Bible speaks of spiritual matters. The antichrist is a religious entity, and therefore flesh was intended as a spiritual quality, not physical. It's the only way the prophecy makes any sense.
“There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. ”
Romans 8:1 KJV
Here, as in other places in the writings of the NT authors, flesh is described as being a spiritual quality in contrast to the spirit, not physical. Further on in that 8th chapter of Romans, Paul further explains. ..
“2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. ”
Romans 8:3-7 KJV
Note the bold portions above. The flesh that Paul is talking about, as can be clearly seen especially in verses 5 and 7, is a mindset. It a spiritual attitude. A state of nature, not physical presence, as Catholics like to suggest. In verse 3, Paul says that Jesus came in the likeness of sinful flesh. He came with a human fallen nature, but He never, not in thought of deed, succumb to that fallen nature by sinning. He was filled with the holy Spirit from birth, overcame human nature through His intimate connection with His Father, that we also may overcome through our intimate connection with Jesus. Christ in us, the hope of glory.
So how does that relate to John's message concerning antichrist? Have you ever heard of the "immaculate conception"? That does not apply to Jesus. It spoke to Mary, who according to the teachings of Catholicism, was born without sin, in order to give birth to a Son without sin. In other words, Jesus dogs not come in the flesh of fallen humanity, but in a state of perfection on account of His mother. He didn't come as the second Adam as a Son of David in the flesh, but He came as Adam was before the fall. At least according to Rome. So the Catholic church doesn't believe Jesus came in the flesh, but of course that doesn't prove the Catholic Church is the antichrist, that's just one of many criteria that the Bible gives as clues to accurately identify the antichrist. Hobie details some of the others above.
 

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So, the NWT is "up the creek without a paddle"! It declares Jesus God and Hell fire EVERLASTING! JW's don't even believe their own bible. They follow Satan's Governing Body to Hell fire!
Only in your twisted thoughts. You know 100% fact-JW,s do NOT teach what you say.
 

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Only in your twisted thoughts. You know 100% fact-JW,s do NOT teach what you say.
The Christian Bible is "twisted thoughts" to JW's! All you have to offer is Governing Body lies leading JW's to Hell fire! Maybe Christians can pull you from the EVERLASTING fire. Maybe.
 
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Second Thessalonians chapter 2

Son of perdition is Satan. He comes 6th Trump to Jerusalem, as false Christ.

Revelation chapter 17

This is one world religious system. False Messiah leads one world religious system. Its false religion. Many churches are affiliated with world church of council. Most shepherds will lead there congregation to Satan as antichrist.

Teaching rapture. Its false doctrine. Replacing passover with easter, its heathen.

Most Christians are bibillcy illiterate. Its the shepherd's fault. Not noushing the congregation. Won't teach repentance. Won't teach revelation or old testament. Lie about garden of Eden.

Prophet hosea warns us not to go to Beth aven. Means house of nothing. They teach tradition of men and false doctrine. I'm not knocking churches down.

Ezekiel chapter 34

God is angry with the shepherds. Teaching traditions of men and false doctrine. Day of vengeance is coming. Shepherds go into pit during milliumum with Satan.
Jeremiah chapter 25
God will put stop to the fake shepherds.

Matthew chapter 24

We're at war and rumors of wars. We're in 5th Trump.

Satan as false Messiah comes 6th Trump.

Not too far down the road, false Messiah will come.