Uncommon Understanding

[Karl Peters]

This should be common understanding, but because understanding comes from His mouth (Prov 2:6) and not from leaning on our own understanding which is what we commonly do, seeking Him and listening to Him for understanding is the uncommon thing.

The common understanding is based on the physical or worldly realm we live in, yet there is a spiritual or heavenly realm around us also. And since God is spirit, the spiritual realm exerts the greater power.

Many people say they understand this, but if they truly did understand this they would practice seeking our Lord Jesus Christ and what He has to say. They would practice listening to Him, the KING OF KINGS. They would thus be aware that there are more with us, who look to Him, than against us. And so also they would be more aware that there are some (spirits) that are against Him also. Thus, there spiritual discernment would increase. And if a person truly understands this, a day could not go by without seeking first the Kingdom of God in all areas of their lives. Yet that is not the common understanding even though it should be.


Mat 7:13,14 “Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.
“For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.

To enter in, you must seek Jesus Christ and listen to Him via His Holy Spirit. His sheep hear His voice and He is the way. And it is from that seeking Him and listening to Him what gives you the understanding you must have!

Prov 2:6 For the LORD gives wisdom;
From His mouth come knowledge and understanding.

Prov 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart
And do not lean on your own understanding.

Jn 14:6 Jesus *said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.

Jn 10:7 So Jesus said to them again, “Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep.
Jn 10:9 “I am the door; if anyone enters through Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.

Jn 10: 27,28 “My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me;
and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand.

I was coming back from a storage unit of mine when the Lord told me to stop and get some food at a particular fast-food restaurant that was on the way home. He said He had something to tell me, and the above is what He told me. He asked there to share the teaching on the forum. If we listen to Him; He can give us fast food (quick teachings) during the day. But is that the common understanding?

 

[Windmill Charge]

He can give us fast food (quick teachings) during the day. But is that the common understanding?

Fast food is not for a regular.ar diet, it is for the young who want a quick meal.
Rather than as Paul advises to eat a balanced diet see hebrews 5 :For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. 13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. 14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

In modern english;- But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil.

 

[Taken]

This should be common understanding, but because understanding comes from His mouth (Prov 2:6) and not from leaning on our own understanding which is what we commonly do, seeking Him and listening to Him for understanding is the uncommon thing.

The common understanding is based on the physical or worldly realm we live in, yet there is a spiritual or heavenly realm around us also. And since God is spirit, the spiritual realm exerts the greater power.

Many people say they understand this, but if they truly did understand this they would practice seeking our Lord Jesus Christ and what He has to say. They would practice listening to Him, the KING OF KINGS. They would thus be aware that there are more with us, who look to Him, than against us. And so also they would be more aware that there are some (spirits) that are against Him also. Thus, there spiritual discernment would increase. And if a person truly understands this, a day could not go by without seeking first the Kingdom of God in all areas of their lives. Yet that is not the common understanding even though it should be.


Mat 7:13,14 “Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.
“For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.

To enter in, you must seek Jesus Christ and listen to Him via His Holy Spirit. His sheep hear His voice and He is the way. And it is from that seeking Him and listening to Him what gives you the understanding you must have!

Prov 2:6 For the LORD gives wisdom;
From His mouth come knowledge and understanding.

Prov 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart
And do not lean on your own understanding.

Jn 14:6 Jesus *said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.

Jn 10:7 So Jesus said to them again, “Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep.
Jn 10:9 “I am the door; if anyone enters through Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.

Jn 10: 27,28 “My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me;
and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand.

I was coming back from a storage unit of mine when the Lord told me to stop and get some food at a particular fast-food restaurant that was on the way home. He said He had something to tell me, and the above is what He told me. He asked there to share the teaching on the forum. If we listen to Him; He can give us fast food (quick teachings) during the day. But is that the common understanding?

Yes…Broad difference between Gods Understanding and Mans.

Yes…Gods speaks to us Spiritually, Spirit to spirit.

Yes…We Glorify God when we yield to His Spirit.

Yes…there is a CAVEAT…when a man is Doing, Acting on behalf of God, to serve another……(in Deed or sharing Gods Word)…
WHICH IS:
Always giving GOD the Credit, the Glory…for what you are able to do for an other….
BY expressly saying it is BY, through, of God…you are ABLE to help, aid, assist an other.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Karl Peters]

Fast food is not for a regular.ar diet, it is for the young who want a quick meal.
Rather than as Paul advises to eat a balanced diet see hebrews 5 :For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. 13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. 14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

In modern english;- But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil.

The above is a good example of leaning on our own understanding, instead of quickly seeking the Lord!!

Too often we use our understanding of the Bible instead of taking our thoughts captive to Him for understanding - meaning we take parts of the Bible we think about and leaned on our understanding of the Bible, as opposed to actually listening to the Lord!!

So let's take an actually look at the verses you refer to.

Heb 5: 14 But solid food is for the mature, who because of practice have their senses trained to discern good and evil.

In the above verse what is supposed to be practiced?? The quick 'out of context' answer is "our senses"

Now if you add the context of that section, we find it is talking about our spiritual senses and primarily our spiritually hearing the Lord our God!

Heb 5:9-13 And having been made perfect, He became to all those who obey Him the source of eternal salvation,
being designated by God as a high priest according to the order of Melchizedek.
Concerning him we have much to say, and it is hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing.
For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you have need again for someone to teach you the elementary principles of the oracles of God, and you have come to need milk and not solid food.
For everyone who partakes only of milk is not accustomed to the word of righteousness, for he is an infant.

So from the above verses we find that this all is about obeying Him - our high priest Jesus Christ according to the order of Melchizedek.

Now it should be obvious that to obey Him you have to listen to Him, but if a person is dull of hearing (have not been practicing hearing Him), as pointed out above, then they are not even qualified to teach!! And so then again they have need of someone to teach them the elementary principles of the -- "oracles of God"!

Now to be an oracle of God you have to hear from God!! That is the basic principle of the oracles of God!! And we (all Christians) have the command "Hear, O Israel" - or as His Father put it "This is My Son in whom I am well-pleased; Listen to Him".

So we are talking about actually hearing Jesus Christ via the Holy Spirit, or food for your spiritual body? Or perhaps Windmill Charge didn't quickly spend time with the Lord before commenting? So we might spend time with Him in the morning and get a good breakfast, but lunch on a busy day might mean fast food with Him.

Instructions are instructions - that is to say if the Lord tells you to go do something, you do that. So what if He has you to quickly stop and get milk for the children, do you not do it? So, if we find a group that has a children in it - those who do not take all thoughts captive to Jesus Christ to get instruction, and the Lord needs to get milk to them (spiritually speaking).

Or did we not read "you have need again for someone to teach you the elementary principles of the oracles of God, and you have come to need milk and not solid food". ??

If you have not yet figured out what the Lord was doing with me - He had me quickly stop during my day to pick up milk (spiritually speaking) and give it to His children - this forum. To do that I have to be able to pick up His voice throughout the day, and not just in the morning when I sit down with Him.

The sad part is how many still need milk - that ability to hear Him though out their day. Indeed, it is common that His children have to be told to listen to Him, and still they don't seek Him first, and take all thoughts captive to Him so they might have understood of what is happening around them. Indeed, if Windmill Charge, had taken his thoughts captive to Jesus Christ before commenting - that is to say if he had quickly gotten a word from the Lord before posting (some fast-food) then he would not have leaned on his own understanding!

These verses in the OP were missed:

Prov 2:6 For the LORD gives wisdom;
From His mouth come knowledge and understanding.

Prov 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart
And do not lean on your own understanding.

 

[Karl Peters]

Yes…Broad difference between Gods Understanding and Mans.

Yes…Gods speaks to us Spiritually, Spirit to spirit.

Yes…We Glorify God when we yield to His Spirit.

Yes…there is a CAVEAT…when a man is Doing, Acting on behalf of God, to serve another……(in Deed or sharing Gods Word)…
WHICH IS:
Always giving GOD the Credit, the Glory…for what you are able to do for an other….
BY expressly saying it is BY, through, of God…you are ABLE to help, aid, assist an other.

Glory to God,
Taken

I really like the above post.

"WHICH IS:
Always giving GOD the Credit, the Glory"

Is very important, and is the very thing that evil spirits hate!! But others (like Taken) - those with the Holy Spirit - rejoice when the Lord gets the credit, because they understand!

So the part of the OP that usually gets people to respond is:

when the Lord told me

 

[Taken]

I really like the above post.

"WHICH IS:
Always giving GOD the Credit, the Glory"

Is very important, and is the very thing that evil spirits hate!! But others (like Taken) - those with the Holy Spirit - rejoice when the Lord gets the credit, because they understand!

So the part of the OP that usually gets people to respond is:

Ya…I know… It is an INSTANT reaction…according to the MIND, as IF you HEARD the Lords voice in your EARS…

Which is NOT the case…It is rather the Lord speaking from His Spirit to your spirit in your heart…not your MIND.

I continually ASK the Lord for His guidance, His direction, His protection, His blessings, His Knowledge, His Understanding…etc.

AND WAIT…for His response…It may be instant…it may be days…it may be months…
When the Answer comes….and it is not a phone call, text, or audible in my ears….it is in my spirit…and an ah ha…moment.

It is phenomenal….to ask…then months later…pulling weeds, mending a fence, doing laundry, or whatever…and the answer comes…which immediately takes me back to the Scriptures I was studying….and wanted His further knowledge and understanding…

Wonderfully weird…:-)

God bless you.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Karl Peters]

Ya…I know… It is an INSTANT reaction…according to the MIND, as IF you HEARD the Lords voice in your EARS…

Which is NOT the case…It is rather the Lord speaking from His Spirit to your spirit in your heart…not your MIND.

I continually ASK the Lord for His guidance, His direction, His protection, His blessings, His Knowledge, His Understanding…etc.

AND WAIT…for His response…It may be instant…it may be days…it may be months…
When the Answer comes….and it is not a phone call, text, or audible in my ears….it is in my spirit…and an ah ha…moment.

It is phenomenal….to ask…then months later…pulling weeds, mending a fence, doing laundry, or whatever…and the answer comes…which immediately takes me back to the Scriptures I was studying….and wanted His further knowledge and understanding…

Wonderfully weird…:-)

God bless you.

Glory to God,
Taken

Again, I really like the above post.

The Lord does not always give us the information or answer we want and when we want it. Sometimes it is better for Him to wait and set up circumstances, and timing, and increases knowledge, and get anxiety out of us, before He can give us the answer in the way He needs!!!


There is something written about waiting on the Lord, and we want the quick answer.

Ps 1413:7 Answer me quickly, O LORD, my spirit fails;
Do not hide Your face from me,
Or I will become like those who go down to the pit.

The above verse is how we tend to feel and pray for. But that does not mean it is the best and right thing to do. Still we need to also realize that He is not slow to answer.

Is 63:24 “It will also come to pass that before they call, I will answer; and while they are still speaking, I will hear.

The problems with actually hearing an answer, is sometimes with what we ask and what we can believe for.

We need to believe that He might tell us to wait on the answer! That in itself is an answer, like a father might want to give his young son something the son wants, but the son is not ready for it. We have to remember that He is both always with us and is not rude, and also that His ways are not our ways, and His thoughts not our thoughts.

We should and will get and answer when we call on Him, but the answer could be 'no', 'not now', 'you have more to learn first', and those types of little answers that we don't want to hear from Him. So, the "we don't want to hear from Him" part often gets in our way even when we don't realize it.

What I have learned to do is change up the question when I am not hearing from Him, because I know that He is there and is not rude. Thus it occurs to me that problem is not in Him, but in me. So I change the question to something easier to believe for, and hear from Him about, so I make that connection with Him. Then once I again get into a conversation with Him I can reapproach the question I wanted answer, and I often ask Him if He wants me to wait for the answer or if the answer is 'no'. Then sometimes I can pick up more information on it from Him. And sometimes the answer is 'yes', and He is telling me now, but I was just too anxious and so my faith to hear Him had gotten blown in the wind.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I was coming back from a storage unit of mine when the Lord told me to stop and get some food at a particular fast-food restaurant that was on the way home. He said He had something to tell me, and the above is what He told me. He asked there to share the teaching on the forum. If we listen to Him; He can give us fast food (quick teachings) during the day. But is that the common understanding?

His Word is our understanding. As it is written. the Holy Spirit empowers us to believe it. The bible is not some mystic book that has a "common understanding" as you say and then some "deeper hidden understanding" reserved for the few who reach some level of mystic capability.

 

[Taken]

Again, I really like the above post.

The Lord does not always give us the information or answer we want and when we want it. Sometimes it is better for Him to wait and set up circumstances, and timing, and increases knowledge, and get anxiety out of us, before He can give us the answer in the way He needs!!!

There is something written about waiting on the Lord, and we want the quick answer.

Ps 1413:7 Answer me quickly, O LORD, my spirit fails;
Do not hide Your face from me,
Or I will become like those who go down to the pit.

The above verse is how we tend to feel and pray for. But that does not mean it is the best and right thing to do. Still we need to also realize that He is not slow to answer.

Is 63:24 “It will also come to pass that before they call, I will answer; and while they are still speaking, I will hear.

The problems with actually hearing an answer, is sometimes with what we ask and what we can believe for.

We need to believe that He might tell us to wait on the answer! That in itself is an answer, like a father might want to give his young son something the son wants, but the son is not ready for it. We have to remember that He is both always with us and is not rude, and also that His ways are not our ways, and His thoughts not our thoughts.

We should and will get and answer when we call on Him, but the answer could be 'no', 'not now', 'you have more to learn first', and those types of little answers that we don't want to hear from Him. So, the "we don't want to hear from Him" part often gets in our way even when we don't realize it.

What I have learned to do is change up the question when I am not hearing from Him, because I know that He is there and is not rude. Thus it occurs to me that problem is not in Him, but in me. So I change the question to something easier to believe for, and hear from Him about, so I make that connection with Him. Then once I again get into a conversation with Him I can reapproach the question I wanted answer, and I often ask Him if He wants me to wait for the answer or if the answer is 'no'. Then sometimes I can pick up more information on it from Him. And sometimes the answer is 'yes', and He is telling me now, but I was just too anxious and so my faith to hear Him had gotten blown in the wind.

I do not ask twice…I know He already knows what I’m thinking, what I’m asking…

I have this “imaginary” shelf…That holds the unanswered questions …. That disappears from the shelf once answered. Lol

Yes…somethings we ask for would not at that time OR perhaps ever, be beneficial “good” for us to have….So it may be a no go.
God IS LOVE and LOVE is always doing what is right and good…

Like your commentary!

God bless you.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[marks]

Now if you add the context of that section, we find it is talking about our spiritual senses and primarily our spiritually hearing the Lord our God!

Actually that passage is saying,

hebrews 5 :For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. 13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. 14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

The first principles, and what we then go on to learn, milk and meat. "those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern good and evil, that is, when you use what you've learned, your senses become exercised so that you know what you are looking at, whether it be good or evil.

Yes, of course, we listen to our Master, just the same, there is no need to misuse Scripture. That's His Word also, you realize.

Much love!

 

[Karl Peters]

Actually that passage is saying,

hebrews 5 :For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. 13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. 14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

The first principles, and what we then go on to learn, milk and meat. "those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern good and evil, that is, when you use what you've learned, your senses become exercised so that you know what you are looking at, whether it be good or evil.

Yes, of course, we listen to our Master, just the same, there is no need to misuse Scripture. That's His Word also, you realize.

Much love!

Your "Master"???? So the Scripture, according to you is His Word?

Have you not even read in the Scriptures that Jesus Christ is Lord? And have you not read that He, Jesus Christ, is the Word of God? And have you not read that that we are not saying in our heart that He is either dead of in a far-off place called heaven, because the Word of God we preach is near us, and found in our mouth and heart?? So not in a book, but He is in us!!

Your understanding, while all too common, is that of the Jews to whom Jesus said:

Jn 5:39,40 You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me;
and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.

Rev 19:13 He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.

Jn 1:1,2 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
He was in the beginning with God.

Rom 10:5-8 For Moses writes that the man who practices the righteousness which is based on law shall live by that righteousness
But the righteousness based on faith speaks as follows: “DO NOT SAY IN YOUR HEART, ‘WHO WILL ASCEND INTO HEAVEN?’ (that is, to bring Christ down),
or ‘WHO WILL DESCEND INTO THE ABYSS?’ (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).”
But what does it say? “THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART”—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,

So you are calling the Scriptures your master, as opposed to calling Jesus Christ you Lord, and where does that come from?

1 Cor 12:2,3 You know that when you were pagans, you were led astray to the mute idols, however you were led.
Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus is accursed”; and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

You are making an idol out of your Bible and are saying in your heart that Jesus Christ is either dead of far off in heaven, so you think your understanding and your own reasoning of what you read in the Bible is God speaking to you; therefore you preach a word that is not found in your mouth and heart, so not from the Holy Spirit who hooks you up with Jesus Christ, so that you and He will talk together!! You are just exactly like those religious Jews who were searching the Scriptures thinking that was God speaking to them. Did you not ever read:

Is 1:18 “Come now, and let us reason together,”
Says the LORD,
“Though your sins are as scarlet,
They will be as white as snow;
Though they are red like crimson,
They will be like wool.

The above is the "reason of use" in Heb 5 that you quoted and "because of practice" that the New American Standard version (because we are making an exchange in American and not some Old English language) that I quoted means. That is to say if you actually did practice seeking Jesus Christ and practice hearing from Him, then you would get know Him, but your thinking that knowing the Scriptures is your knowing Him, causes you to not seek HIm, and not hear from Him, and has caused you to be "dull of hearing: so that you are unqualified to teach!! And you again have need to someone to be sent to you to teach you the elementary (or first principles of the oracles of God) which is that He is there to be heard from!!!! Oracles of God must first hear from Him!!!

But you are of the more common understanding, which sadly is dis-belief that God will talk to us. And that goes back to the snake of old whose first recorded words in the Bible were, "Did God really say.."!!

You can't separate good from evil, and that shows because your are still buying into that "Did God really say..." concept spread by that snake to this day! You need to listen to the Holy Spirit who says"

Heb 3:7,8 Therefore, just as the Holy Spirit says,
“TODAY IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE,
DO NOT HARDEN YOUR HEARTS AS WHEN THEY PROVOKED ME,
AS IN THE DAY OF TRIAL IN THE WILDERNESS,

and also:

Heb 3:10,11 “THEREFORE I WAS ANGRY WITH THIS GENERATION,
AND SAID, ‘THEY ALWAYS GO ASTRAY IN THEIR HEART,
AND THEY DID NOT KNOW MY WAYS’;
AS I SWORE IN MY WRATH,
‘THEY SHALL NOT ENTER MY REST.’”

If you have not been hearing that small voice of His TODAY, then you are not practicing hearing from Him and ‘THEY SHALL NOT ENTER MY REST.’” will describe you!!!

Still it is written, and He insisted to me:

Heb 3:13 But encourage one another day after day, as long as it is still called “Today,” so that none of you will be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin.

So I am encouraging you Today to seek Him and Listen to Him, by believing that He is with you Today to be heard from!!

Ask Him how He feels about you, and listen in your heart for the answer. Then start reasoning with Him personally. Reason with Him about you work, your life, and the things in your life. He will talk to you about all of it because He is there for you to talk to and get to know personally. That will result in the practice of using your spiritual senses, especially you spiritual ears, to communicate back and forth with Him. But if you don't believe in Him, then how are you going to get to heaven. Your searching the Scriptures will not help you if you don't and won't believe in Him who is near you to talk to you!!

 

[marks]

Have you not even read in the Scriptures that Jesus Christ is Lord?

You don't have any real knowledge of me, only your false presumptions which you state as fact. Your whole post is your fiction of me. It's absurd, and you should know that.

Your derision for others puts the lie to your testimony. Listening to you, I don't have any reason to think you actually hear from God.

Much love!

 

[marks]

I just realized, I corrected you on a passage, that's why your unhinged rant.

Not a good sign.

Much love!

 

[Karl Peters]

I just realized, I corrected you on a passage, that's why your unhinged rant.

Not a good sign.

Much love!

I have much love, and His name is Jesus Christ. God is love.

What you think, according to your own understanding, is that you are fine by leaning on your own understanding of the Bible. So you won't accept the reroof that God has for you, which would mean that you actually have to listen to Jesus Christ, and do it Today.

So you called me pointing that out to you a 'rant', and think I don't have love, even for you - when in fact He loves you sooo much that He instructs me to write to you, so that you might come to know Him personally and get the salvation of God which comes through Him.

In a nut shell - I am trying to save you from hell by pointing you to Him. but you own incorrect conclusions get in your way and keeps you from actually knowing Him. So you don't know Him, who is love, and try to be smart and wind up being accusatory. Frankly, you don't know what spirit you are off, so you don't recognize the work of God, when confronted with it. The word of God is that all should come to know Him, and I don't apologize for doing the work He has asked me to do, because it means salvation for anyone who will believe in Him.

I wonder what you think if these verses from Malachi?

Mal 2:1-3“And now this commandment is for you, O priests.
“If you do not listen, and if you do not take it to heart to give honor to My name,” says the LORD of hosts, “then I will send the curse upon you and I will curse your blessings; and indeed, I have cursed them already, because you are not taking it to heart.
“Behold, I am going to rebuke your offspring, and I will spread refuse on your faces, the refuse of your feasts; and you will be taken away with it.

Was that from Malachi listening to the word of the Lord, and if so was he then right to write " I will curse your blessings; and indeed, I have cursed them already, because you are not taking it to heart.
“Behold, I am going to rebuke your offspring, and I will spread refuse on your faces, the refuse of your feasts; and you will be taken away with it." to those priest who did not listen to the Lord and did not honor His name?

Again, Rev 19:3 Rev 19:13 He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.

Yet you wrote,

misuse Scripture. That's His Word also, you realize

No I don't realize the Scriptures are His Word, because He is the Word of God and that is His name. So do you honor His name by calling Him the Scriptures? And you certainly are not listening to Him, because you think your reading the Book is practicing using your spiritual senses. You don't even know the difference between reading and hearing, and so you reject hearing Him, and any corresponding testimony.

Perhaps you think this is another 'rant', but did you not read in that same place in Hebrews this?

Heb 5:11 Concerning him we have much to say, and it is hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing.

It should be extremely easy to just tell someone to listen to Jesus Christ, because as the Great I AM, He is always there to be heard from. But for the dull of hearing, the concept of listening to Him with our spiritual ears is almost impossible to understand. So with great patience, reproof, and correction, we are asked to preach the Word of God - and that meaning Jesus Christ because that is His name! The Word of God is Jesus (God's salvation).


2 Tim 4:2 preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction.

My posts are long, not because I 'rant' like you think, but because you are dull of hearing and so I need to preach Jesus Christ and Him wanting you to listen to Him - so I preach with " reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction.", because " we have much to say, and it is hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing." And if mean life eternal to you, or hell to you if you don't believe in Him.

 

[marks]

is that you are fine by leaning on your own understanding of the Bible.

Like I said, you don't have a clue what you are talking about. So don't think I'm going to be impressed by your vain speech.

Much love!

 

[marks]

He instructs me to write to you,

If this were true, your words would be true, but they are false. Others may be fooled. Let's put it this way. I can tell you, you are blue-green, and others can't see you, but you yourself know it's not so.

Just like this.

Much love!

 

[Karl Peters]

Of course you don't think He instructs me to write and tell people to listen to Him, but that is because you are not listening to Him. So you reject Him talking to people, and the bad part is that you reject if for you. So you read the Bible and use your own interpretation, and thus think the reading it is practicing hearing from Him. And so the orderly lines in the Bible are the word of God to you because you don't listen to Him.

Perhaps these verses could get you re-think you position and decide to seek Him by faith?

Is 28: 12,13 He who said to them, “Here is rest, give rest to the weary,”
And, “Here is repose,” but they would not listen.
So the word of the LORD to them will be,
“Order on order, order on order,
Line on line, line on line,
A little here, a little there,”
That they may go and stumble backward, be broken, snared and taken captive.

In the above verse we find that when a person will not listen to the Lord, then the orderly, lines of text, that they read a little here and there, become the word of the Lord to them. And that is set up that way so they will go stumbling backward, be broken, snared and taken captive by the enemies of God.

Now if you had been listening to Him, He the Teacher would have pointed this out to you, just like He pointed it out to Isaiah so Isaiah could write what he did, on behalf of the Lord and to get people to actually turn to the Lord and listen to Him. But Isaiah's writings about what the Lord was telling him did not help the Pharisees and Sadducees when the Lord was standing in the flesh in front of them. They always reject Him, and so we read:

Jn 3: 9-11 Nicodemus said to Him, “How can these things be?”
Jesus answered and said to him, “Are you the teacher of Israel and do not understand these things?
“Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak of what we know and testify of what we have seen, and you do not accept our testimony.

And so it is that you reject the testimony about Him giving instructions to us personally, and have to go back to leaning on your own understanding of those orderly lines in the Bible you read a little here and there. But that is not what it mean by practicing using your senses. We have spiritual ears to hear with, and spiritual eyes to see with, but to some it is written:

Jn 12:40 “HE HAS BLINDED THEIR EYES AND HE HARDENED THEIR HEART, SO THAT THEY WOULD NOT SEE WITH THEIR EYES AND PERCEIVE WITH THEIR HEART, AND BE CONVERTED AND I HEAL THEM.”

Still, I will preach the good news to you as instructed.

Rev 3:19 - 22 Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline; therefore be zealous and repent.
‘Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me.
‘He who overcomes, I will grant to him to sit down with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.
‘He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’”

Even though He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so they can not see with their spiritual eyes and perceive the Word of God who is near them, He will still reprove and discipline them because He loves them. And if they are not practice listening to Him, then the reproof has to be passed on to someone else to give them the milk of the gospel. That is to say, He is standing there at the door to your heart and if you repent and get zealous for Him, then perhaps you can open up to Him, because He has been and is standing there trying to speak to you. So you can open up to Him, and hear Him tell you something like this testimony I gave in the OP:

I was coming back from a storage unit of mine when the Lord told me to stop and get some food at a particular fast-food restaurant that was on the way home. He said He had something to tell me, and the above is what He told me. He asked there to share the teaching on the forum. If we listen to Him; He can give us fast food (quick teachings) during the day. But is that the common understanding?

 

[marks]

Of course you don't think He instructs me to write and tell people to listen to Him, but that is because you are not listening to Him.

Actually, it's because you speak falsely. If your words were from the Lord, they would be true. All you are doing here is making up strings of lies to impugn someone who has corrected you on a small matter, apparently you can't stand that, and are going off in all directions with nonsense.

This tells me everything I need to know. Your words are false. That's all there is to it.

Much love!

 

[Windmill Charge]

above is a good example of leaning on our own understanding, instead of quickly seeking the Lord

You may prefer fast food, I prefer to chew my way through the meat of the bible.
Don't get me wrong I misunderstand, make mistakes, but I seek to learn through them.

Fast food has a limited benefit and an over dependence on it is unhealthy.

 

[CC7799]

Proverbs chapter 1 .

Some people are not diligent and sincere about seeking God. Some churches are business or social functions. Its lip service.

James chapter 1. Be doers of the word, not hearers only deceiving your own selves.

Its doers of God's word that God bless and protection.

Mark chapter 3. Its those who do of God.

Hosea chapter 6. Don't go to Beth aven. God's word isn't taught there. God is not present in spiritual whore houses who teach tradition of men and false doctrine.


Shepherds are to be focused on noushing the congregation. Not building projects or social activities.

Amy wonder why many congregations are spiritually dead.

Never heard of the 3 earth ages.
Don't understand seals and trumps of revelation.
Don't know who kenites are.
Weren't taught parable of fig tree.

Is this rubbing in. Shepherds are to blame for the spiritual conditions of Christian people.

Bethel means house of God
Beth aven means House of nothing.

We understand thiis.