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LoL. Are you being serious? Maybe you are. Someone visited the holy land and brought us back a rock from the land. I doubt that rock is holy.
Two different mindsets about peace.... Palestinians and Israelis interviewed
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Most people would not consider it sacred ground but its the ground that Jesus walked on Its the Land that God the Father chose from the very beginning.Eden would of had to of been on God's holy land. Yes I am a fool for Christ like Paul but like him I know I am not its just the way I will be perceived for believing and it will get worse and worse as I stick to the bible and the faith.Have at me that's ok.Its the price you have to pay today for faith.
No I don't believe the ground has special properties or its blessed some how I would just like to have a little bit people collect much crazier stuff.
No I don't believe the ground has special properties or its blessed some how I would just like to have a little bit people collect much crazier stuff.
Did you watch the video of interviews with Palestinians? It's in the first post....the top video is Jews being interviewed. The bottom video is the Palestinians being interviewed.
The Palestinians are not willing to compromise because they don't want to live with the Jews.... Palestinians want all of the land. (In the Hamas charter, it says Jews should be eradicated from the earth.). The Jews want peace and are willing to compromise.
Palestinians have been taught to hate and kill Jews. Even as small children, they are indoctrinated to think this way, at home and in their schools. Young boys are given military training.
They need Jesus...so do the Jews. But at least the Jews are willing to compromise.
Watch this young girl.... she's brainwashed. Willing to become a martyr and die because she hates Jews.
And please watch this short video, it's important.
No, we don't. I don't support the following. Please watch this brief video to see what Palestinian children are taught about Jews. Sounds like ethnic cleansing to me.
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It took me a while to think about your reply. I assume you were replying to my laughing at your wanting to have a piece of the promised land (Israel)kept in a bottle? Personally, I thought what you said was brilliant. I laughed not to make fun of you but happy for what your comment exposed. At first I thought you’d said it intentionally to make us stop to think about what you claim as the promised land. I saw it similar to the holy water, priest covet as they only can anoint whom they choose with their coveted bottles of “holy water”… where they control and have in their possession the holy water.
If I could share something with you, you may laugh too. You are the bottle that contains a piece of the Promised Land. A treasure in an earthen vessel. See, I’m not laughing but I am confused how no one wants to hear that they are the “blessed” of God, a treasure held in bottles. The power not of men, but of God. That is not desired to be heard though, but instead we crave something of “a precious keep sake”. You may say …you are not that promised land in a bottle, but consider the parable of the ground and what is the ground? The heart. The mind. It is this heart, this mind which is to “be you transformed by the renewing of your mind”.
If that doesn’t cause you any pause in wishing you had possession of a bottle containing a treasure …think of this. You said it’s Holy ground where Jesus walked during His days in the flesh. Jesus Christ also walked in Paul. “not I, but Christ Lives in me” and others, and even those today whom “not I, but Christ Lives in me” …we are not talking dirt in a bottle. You said it is holy ground because It’s the path of where Jesus Christ has walked. Wouldn’t that holy pathway be “the Way”, where He said “I am the way.” He spoke of that which has nothing to do with dirt kept in a bottle? I’m not trying to minimize where Jesus Christ walked or walks…but trying to tell you: where Jesus Christ feet have walked(travelled) is closer to you than you think. (Imo). It’s you, I believe. And not something you can’t ever possess or have as a keep (safe)sake.
You said “Its the Land that God the Father chose from the very beginning.”
Ephesians 2:20-22 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; [21] In whom all the building fitly framed together grows unto an holy temple in the Lord: [22] In whom you also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
Mark 4:8-9 And other fell on good ground, and did yield fruit that sprang up and increased; and brought forth, some thirty, and some sixty, and some an hundred. [9] And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
What is “good ground”?
I am well aware of my faith what the bible says and and how my salvation is found.You have the right to disagree with me.
As I have said hundreds of time Salvation is found by faith in the death and resurrection of Christ.
As I have said hundreds of time Salvation is found by faith in the death and resurrection of Christ.
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And yet, Netanyahu and the US partnered together to allow this "attack" that killed many Israelis to give an excuse to bomb and murder Palestinians and take the land ....for America .... NOT for Israel. Trump will take Gaza for himself, possibly for Baron Trump's new luxury real estate venture. Just watch ...
Everything is about money today.
The same three temptation that Satan tried to tempt Christ with are being offered to the world and many have accepted Satan's path forward as the way blinded by Satan. Try to deny that it is not what you want wealth power and security.Its what President Trump is offering and Christians have aligned with him.
The same three temptation that Satan tried to tempt Christ with are being offered to the world and many have accepted Satan's path forward as the way blinded by Satan. Try to deny that it is not what you want wealth power and security.Its what President Trump is offering and Christians have aligned with him.
Back to the original topic. It's not about the land.... it's about the eradication of Jews.
See what this Muslim doctor says. Short video.
See what this Muslim doctor says. Short video.
Ritajanice
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So it’s all about religion and not land....they want to eradicate the Jews, WOW!..that was a bit of an eye opener...The Muslims it sounds as if by “ force” they want the Jews to convert to Muslim....?
Force is not of God....it’s Of the human race, it’s to do with control and pride....if I see a person trying to force me to look at things their way, I will either ignore/ laugh or run from them....speaking from my own experience..
God showed me a while back...” do not force your will onto anyone”..
Actually with fundamentalist Muslims, they want Islam to be worldwide. Islam teaches the rest of us are infidels....even to be killed.
Did you watch the videos in post one? Muslims being interviewed were adamant that they aren't willing to compromise with the Jews for peace. They have a hatred for the Jews.
Whereas, in the video of Jews being interviewed, they are willing to compromise and want peace.
The videos aren't too long and they are interesting.
Ritajanice
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Oh my word....that is not of God, is it Sis?....I never knew they had such hatred for Jews...sounds like they have been brainwashed and conditioned to hate Jews @Debp ..from a young age would you say?
Therefore God Loving and forgiving people......
I only watched the last vid, I will watch the other vids later.
Check this thread out. I posted a few short videos of Palestinian children and how they are taught to hate Jews.
Gaza summer camps training children to be terrorists
Brainwashing the Palestinian children. Short video.
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That was true back then, but I think it's a bit more to it than that. One on hand, it's spiritual. It's the only explanation why the world is so obsessed about a tiny piece of land (Israel) and a small ethnic minority (the Jews). On the other hand, the Bible says of Ishmael, "his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers. (Gen 16:12)” At it's core, it's an intergenerational family feud that has gone on for thousands of years between the children of Jacob and the children of Ismael.
I'm not sure why Gaza (There is no Palestine) would be considered holy land as it's always been the land of Israel's enemies (the Philistines). Symbolically, we might call it the holy land, but God's presence left the Temple during Ezekiel 10-11. At a future time it will be concreted as holy, but for now, there's a lot of unholy people living in it.
Not quite. The land previously belonged to the Ottoman empire, but they lost it after World War 1. The British gained control of it until the British Mandate expired. At that point, it was basically up for grabs. The Jews and Arabs fought a war over it, the Jews won, and the rest is history.
After the Arab-Israeli War, many of the Palestinians (really just Arabs) went to Gaza, which was controlled by Egypt at the time, and the West Bank, which was annexed by Jordan at the time. Others went to neighboring countries. Jordan has the largest ex-Palestinian population and makes up 50-60% of their population.
Really, there was no reason why those living in Gaza couldn't have become as prosperous as the Palestinians\Arabs that are Israeli citizens, but they put all their time and resources into fighting Israel. Israel had unilaterally withdrawn from Gaza in 2005, even forcibly removing their own citizens, with the end-goal of creating of a Palestinian state. But the Palestinians then elected Hamas who almost immediately fired a barrage of rockets into Israel. Since then, there have been several conflicts and wars that culminated in the October 1st attack that ended any chance of a Palestinian state in Gaza. The truth of the matter is the Palestinians in Gaza have been used as political pawns by the enemies of Israel to be a thorn in their side. That is why none of the neighboring Muslim states want to take them in.
Behold
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Short video. This Israeli Jewish man goes undercover while talking to a Palestinian woman to get her views. He does reveal he's Jewish after awhile.
A multitude of Palestinians interviewed. Only the old men at the 8 minute mark seemed to be ok with a two State solution. But then the man said "do you want me to go to jail?"
The anti-Israel activist refuses to admit what Hamas did on Oct 7 was a war crime. Short video.
Hidden In Him
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When you watch these videos you can see how Armageddon is being set up. He promised thousands of years ago that He would return Israel to their land, and He knew what the reaction of the Palestinians would be. It was given to the Israelis by God Himself long before the Arabs ever controlled it, but they don't honor the God of the Jews and His intentions. So it in effect is a war between the YHWH and Allah, and there is no peace between those two gods. One is the Creator of Heaven and earth, and the other is merely a demonic spirit.
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