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That's what is happening to Putin right now in Ukraine. They are trying to sweep across Ukraine and having a very hard time of it because urban warfare favors the defender. How ready is his positions? We may be in for big surprise boys, let's go slow...(Lol)
Russians in quite a pickle economically.
Makes for the question, is this war worth it?

 
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I follow that theory. Park a few submarines offshore and lob missiles into the interior. Meanwhile Guerilla Teams cause chaos in the interior. One thing disrupts the idea. The Red Dawn model challenges the capability of Guerilla Forces. I harken back to the dinner conversation between two Admirals following WW11. The American Admiral stated that he was confused. The Japanese had disabled the US Navy .....The California Coast was wide open. The Japanese Admiral responded "We knew every American home had a gun. The owners knew how to fir those guns. Behind every other blade of grass was a gun with an owner that was capable of defeating our troops."

I hadn't fired a gun in over ten years. I found a box of ammo in a closet, pulled the .357 Mag from the box. Went to the indoor firing range two miles from the house. Paid for range time .....Put five in the black, at 50 yards, packed up and went home. Guy wanted me to buy a membership. Told him. "I learned in Wyoming. For me it's like hitting golf balls or riding a bike. The gun stays loaded in the house now."

Not for me it isn't, this whole its "like riding a bike, you just never forget it". Well, I totally forgot and back in my Millitary days I could dissssemble my M16 and put it back together well within the time required and could shoot that thing and my 38 but none of that really come back to me.

A few years ago my husband bought an AR15, a shot gun and 9Mil and some other, and tried that shot gun and couldnt hear for a week and that thing almost dislocated my shoulder (How wimpy I am?). Not only that, although I never trained on a 9MIl but on a 38 (which should be no big deal I thought) well, I did not have enough strength in my hands to either disable the safety or slide the top back on it (My husband laughs at meclfh ) I feel pretty pathetic right now. I need to figure out how to fake it because I obviously cannot count on my strength or memory of old skills clfh
 
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Not for me it isn't, this whole its "like riding a bike, you just never forget it". Well, I totally forgot and back in my Millitary days I could dissssemble my M16 and put it back together well within the time required and could shoot that thing and my 38 but none of that really come back to me.

A few years ago my husband bought an AR15, a shot gun and 9Mil and some other, and tried that shot gun and couldnt hear for a week and that thing almost dislocated my shoulder (How wimpy I am?). Not only that, although I never trained on a 9MIl but on a 38 (which should be no big deal I thought) well, I did not have enough strength in my hands to either disable the safety or slide the top back on it (My husband laughs at meclfh ) I feel pretty pathetic right now. I need to figure out how to fake it because I obviously cannot count on my strength or memory of old skills clfh
Don't feel bad, the same happened to my wife. We got a co2 bb pistol to shoot at rodents in our garden. My wife couldn't pull the trigger and thought the trigger was broke. I took it and rapid fired it with no problem.
 
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Not for me it isn't, this whole its "like riding a bike, you just never forget it". Well, I totally forgot and back in my Millitary days I could dissssemble my M16 and put it back together well within the time required and could shoot that thing and my 38 but none of that really come back to me.

A few years ago my husband bought an AR15, a shot gun and 9Mil and some other, and tried that shot gun and couldnt hear for a week and that thing almost dislocated my shoulder (How wimpy I am?). Not only that, although I never trained on a 9MIl but on a 38 (which should be no big deal I thought) well, I did not have enough strength in my hands to either disable the safety or slide the top back on it (My husband laughs at meclfh ) I feel pretty pathetic right now. I need to figure out how to fake it because I obviously cannot count on my strength or memory of old skills clfh
What i say to one i say to all . We in a whole new army now sister .
I too used to be in the marines many , many moons ago in a time where the internet was but a blink in the making .
a time when cell phones were still massive clunkers .
Why do i bring this up . because i was in anti terroism and later back in infantry .
THEY are fooling all of us sister . When big ol lists are made on the internet
that say HELP support etc , who would be willing to sign this petetion to suceed from the union .
ITS ALL GETTING ROUTED TO A DATA base . WE all being decieved and both sides play the game .
Did you know i graduated at the top of my anti terroism class .
OH I say that not to boast but to say this rather , NOW i am on a potential terroist list myself .
And make no mistake a whole lot more are on it too . fear not man
but understand that our betrayer and our betrayal comes soon .
Even now some have been teaching their churches about the dangers of what THEY cliam is fundamentalism .
Even throwing out phrases like those who preach the gospel aint even true christains .
And the number one on that so called potential terror list they have . TAKE a guess who it was .
Was it the deadly dangerous muslim extremist . NO mam, they came in at number seven .
IT WAS THE EVANGELICAL BIBLICAL ONE . we are gonna be betrayed and sooner than later .
THE churches have been groomed for this hour and they too already merge under a lie
and with other religoins . SOON anything and anyone that did not conform to what THE NEW LOVE and NEW GOD
of inclustivity , THEY GONNA be rounded up . WE will be seen as dangers
AND do remember my sister , that PRO LONGED detention
IT applies to ANYTHING and ANYONE considered EVEN A POTENTIAL TERROIST . that is right .
EVEN if you done nothing , YOU can be rounded up and held without trial till THEY DETERMINE whether its okay
for you to return to society . its coming down the pipe line . SOON many evenwithin christendom
WILL BETRAY US . butfear it not . fear not man . WE have the LORD and WITH US HE IS TO THE END and through it all .
 
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Too funny! clfh Thanks Rockerduck
Letus remember our weapons are spiritual .
What is and what is coming will get worse . but many will see it as a time of what they think
is enlightment and a time of coming peace and peace pacts . the worse the churches fall into the false love inclusive trap
the more they gonna think ITS AN AWAKENING and will never see it for the STRONG DELUSOIN IT WAS AND IS .
A time of great trouble is building , an hour of great betrayal is at the door .
We must not fear what man can do to us . Let none be moved . stay the glorious course in CHRIST
and do not conform . DO all to help others to see the truth . Never buy a lie .
 

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What i say to one i say to all . We in a whole new army now sister .
I too used to be in the marines many , many moons ago in a time where the internet was but a blink in the making .
a time when cell phones were still massive clunkers .
Why do i bring this up . because i was in anti terroism and later back in infantry .
THEY are fooling all of us sister . When big ol lists are made on the internet
that say HELP support etc , who would be willing to sign this petetion to suceed from the union .
ITS ALL GETTING ROUTED TO A DATA base . WE all being decieved and both sides play the game .
Did you know i graduated at the top of my anti terroism class .
OH I say that not to boast but to say this rather , NOW i am on a potential terroist list myself .
And make no mistake a whole lot more are on it too . fear not man
but understand that our betrayer and our betrayal comes soon .
Even now some have been teaching their churches about the dangers of what THEY cliam is fundamentalism .
Even throwing out phrases like those who preach the gospel aint even true christains .
And the number one on that so called potential terror list they have . TAKE a guess who it was .
Was it the deadly dangerous muslim extremist . NO mam, they came in at number seven .
IT WAS THE EVANGELICAL BIBLICAL ONE . we are gonna be betrayed and sooner than later .
THE churches have been groomed for this hour and they too already merge under a lie
and with other religoins . SOON anything and anyone that did not conform to what THE NEW LOVE and NEW GOD
of inclustivity , THEY GONNA be rounded up . WE will be seen as dangers
AND do remember my sister , that PRO LONGED detention
IT applies to ANYTHING and ANYONE considered EVEN A POTENTIAL TERROIST . that is right .
EVEN if you done nothing , YOU can be rounded up and held without trial till THEY DETERMINE whether its okay
for you to return to society . its coming down the pipe line . SOON many evenwithin christendom
WILL BETRAY US . butfear it not . fear not man . WE have the LORD and WITH US HE IS TO THE END and through it all .
Yeah I know they are data mining on forums and elsewhere, I have said so much before, but why do you say that because I shared I was in the millitary or that I can't shoot to save my life now?clfh

What threat can I possibly pose?
(Ok, I know, I know the grandma's on January 6th were not spared)

Whatever the LORD's will is, you gotta go with it
 

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Not for me it isn't, this whole its "like riding a bike, you just never forget it". Well, I totally forgot and back in my Millitary days I could dissssemble my M16 and put it back together well within the time required and could shoot that thing and my 38 but none of that really come back to me.

A few years ago my husband bought an AR15, a shot gun and 9Mil and some other, and tried that shot gun and couldnt hear for a week and that thing almost dislocated my shoulder (How wimpy I am?). Not only that, although I never trained on a 9MIl but on a 38 (which should be no big deal I thought) well, I did not have enough strength in my hands to either disable the safety or slide the top back on it (My husband laughs at meclfh ) I feel pretty pathetic right now. I need to figure out how to fake it because I obviously cannot count on my strength or memory of old skills clfh

Shooting good is not like riding a bike for most people. It's not something that you remember instinctively. You have to practice to stay good.

What that man meant was, close enough for government work (Lol) so he went back home feeling good at his group at 50 yards.
Now don't no one attack me for this I'm being somewhat facetious but...I took what he said as code talk for he got a 6" grouping at 50 yards, which wont win any championships but it'll get you our of trouble with a man that you engage.

But I'd bet money that it wasnt no 2" group that he shot. 6" at 50 yards. works for war, so perhaps he was smart to save his ammo at this point? But I'd sure be starting to buy more ammo (or load it) before springtime and continuing to shoot some this summer. When that guy offered that he should get a membership at the range, that was prolly code talk for (having seen his grouping) thought, not bad but I see room for some improvement.

I didn't start getting better than mediocre in shooting until I started paying mor e attention to my trigger pulls. I discovered that 80% of marksmanship was trigger control for both handguns and rifles. The biggest two mistakes that I or others I seen shoot made were jerking the trigger (which pulls the shot off bullseye) and closing their eyes at the moment the shot breaks (which can mean the shot goes anywhere). Now we all know the gun goes bang, but it doesn't hurt you! You live right thru it. So try this next time you go shooting...

Force yourself to look thru the shot...you have to be able to continue to see the front sight after the shot goes bang. When you do this, suddenly you can call your shots. When the shot goes bang, ask yourself, where was the front sight when it went bang? Now you will know either where it was, or that you don't know where it was meaning, you shut your vision off in anticipation of the shot.
Not jerking the trigger is easy to get over. Don't pull the trigger. Press the trigger. Straight back. Pay attention to how much trigger finger that you used. Did you use the pad of your finger? the knuckle? Too much or too little trigger finger will pull the shot off target either right or left.

When I learned those things, I starting getting better. A LOT better. After that I began wondering what all the fuss was about match grade high dollar triggers that people used and talked about and so I bought one. Then two! Then 3! Oh my gosh, what a wonderful thing a match trigger is on a weapon! Most factory triggers are set up for imbeciles, lol.

Don't buy a match trigger until you can call your shots all the time.
 

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Letus remember our weapons are spiritual .
What is and what is coming will get worse . but many will see it as a time of what they think
is enlightment and a time of coming peace and peace pacts . the worse the churches fall into the false love inclusive trap
the more they gonna think ITS AN AWAKENING and will never see it for the STRONG DELUSOIN IT WAS AND IS .
A time of great trouble is building , an hour of great betrayal is at the door .
We must not fear what man can do to us . Let none be moved . stay the glorious course in CHRIST
and do not conform . DO all to help others to see the truth . Never buy a lie .

Now every word of this is true. Nevertheless, sometimes there isn't time to pray so it is good to have a weapon and be versed in it. Didn't the Lord say those without a weapon should sell their cloak and buy one?

Didn't they build the wall of jerusalem with a sword in one hand and a tool in the other?
 

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You want to put guerilla warriors into the interior offshore subs are lobbing missiles into?
On the opening day of hunting season in the US. The 5th largest army in the world takes the field. If invaded ......the guerilla forces will already be there.

As for subs off the shelf in international waters, do you really think military targets and large cities are not on the list to hit?
 

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Now every word of this is true. Nevertheless, sometimes there isn't time to pray so it is good to have a weapon and be versed in it. Didn't the Lord say those without a weapon should sell their cloak and buy one?

Didn't they build the wall of jerusalem with a sword in one hand and a tool in the other?
I have my weapon . THE LORD GOD ALL MIGHTY be my strength .
Now be encouraged by this next scenario for TRUE it BE .
The LORD GOD all mighty is in control of my life . And if my time be up , THANKS BE to His
grace given me IN CHRIST JESUS , i depart and go home to a far far far better place .
But if my time on earth is not up
Ten thousands of men could surround me
all in entrenched around me with fully automatic machine guns and heavy artillery as well .
And the command fire would be given
and a sheet of iron rounds come flying at me as well as massive rounds of artillery
and yet for all that STILL I WOULD BE DELIVERED BY GOD .
On the other hand if my time were up
i could be walking down the street and suddenly Just fall as i breathed my last .
OUR TIME IS NOT UP till GOD says so . I actually BELIEVE THIS TO BE VERY VERY TRUE .
And that i need not to rely or trust on my own flesh to deliver me . ONLY HE can and if HE wills to do so
HE WILL . Its very peaceful to just TRUST IN HE and in HE ALONE .
As for my weapons they are spiritual
and as for being a partaker in the building of the TRUE temple , that shall be done
by the preaching of the gospel and unto each who does believe stone by stone they enter into that temple
BUILT by GOD and not by man . we are but co helpers by THE SPIRIT by preaching the gospel .
And by chance if we are surrounded and as they come to take our life
Let our last words be , LORD FORGIVE THEM this sin .
 

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Did you think I forgot?
what if i told you a massively huge message of anti christ has been sold unto the world and even within Christendom itself .
The interfaith all inclusive Christ denying lie .
Now what if i told you this came from the seat of a harlot who sits high over this world and has influenced
both its kings , peoples and religoins and much of even christendom to buy this lie it calleth love and claims is of GOD .
What if i told you the number of the name and of the seat by which this entity sits
as it brings its ecumincal interfaith lie to the world , adds up to Six hundred three score and six .
And what if i told you that many even within christendom sure seem to buy this prophet and his prophets
who may appear to have horns as a lamb yet speak as do a dragon .
And what would you say if i were to tell you that those who buy into this anti christ lie
have been led to beleive this very message will bring them PEACE N SAFETY , peace in the middle east .
Dear friend , we might very well be MUCH farther along than most folks realize .
We got us wolves in wool under the influence of the king wolf in wool and they do its bidding
to bring what they beleive will give them PEACE N SAFETY .
And now a word . For when they shall say Peace n safety , CRASH BANG , SUDDEN destruction cometh upon them all
and they will not escape . We really need to get again back into our own bible and start learning things real fast .
Cause a mountain of decievers are within christendom and they do merge this people
and all other FALSE religoins to be as one and to find common ground . THIS IS not about too bode well
for those who sipped of that CUP which that WHORE pours out unto them to drink . Her cup of FORNICATION
 
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Did you think I forgot?
On those feet verily , we got a massive climatic peak hitting in this last hour
and what many who are now under the influence beleive is it has come of GOD and IS LOVE .
IT has COME of another , NOT OF GOD , but of He who desires to be as GOD .
And the lie it calleth love that has made the Road to GOD very broad and sin accepting
now leads them to even the acceptance of unbelief in Christ . THINGS getting REAL bad down here on planet earth my friends .
And many sure seem to be headed and gathering by troops to the temple of THE HARLOT .
 
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Now every word of this is true. Nevertheless, sometimes there isn't time to pray so it is good to have a weapon and be versed in it. Didn't the Lord say those without a weapon should sell their cloak and buy one?

Didn't they build the wall of jerusalem with a sword in one hand and a tool in the other?
On those feet my friend . The hour is late and the delusion that leadeth all to perdition
has come to do just that , LEAD them to their own destruction and damnation .
The lie of the Christ called ANTI is at work and it brings its false love message
preaching Peace and a solution of Peace unto this people . beware it at all costs . IT is a lie
its not love and let none partake of its unity . It is massively reconciling
but not man to GOD , for it denies the dire need to BELEIVE JESUS IS CHRIST ,
It is unifying THE DECIEVED to merge with the DECIEVED and all who loved a lie
are buying into it and fast . This is nothing more than a STRONG DELUSION
that has been allowed and has done so unto the unrepentant who loved a lie and rejected the love of the truth
whereby they could have been saved . AND MANY who buy this lie are within the churches of christendom .
IT unites them with the other ANTI CHRIST RELIGOINS who DO DENY JESUS IS THE CHRIST
and offers them its olive branch of what it calleth love and peace . ITS FRUIT IS TWICE DEAD
and all who eat of it will die the second death . Their end will be destruction by the righteous Judgment of
and wrath of GOD all MIGHTY and of the Lamb . This is not about too bode well at all
For the many . SO my advice is , HAVE No part or lott in this interfaith finding common ground .
That has come to guide those within christendom to beleive a lie
that all other religoins already beleive , NO NEED to BELEIVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST . AND THAT LIE
my friend can only COME from one entity and it sure AINT GOD who TESTIFIED ON THE SON .
ITS SATAN whose desire is death for all . And he knows how to make it sound so darn good and loving for humanity . OH but HE
is a liar , now aint he .
 
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When anyone brings an idea and calls it love
and yet its love , its
idea leads them to death and will not deliver them from death . YOU CAN BET ITS A LIE no matter how kind
caring and even loving it may have sounded .
The serpent did not approach eve with teeth and a nasty message .
HE made it seem like it would be for her good and that she would not die .
Interfaith finding common ground cometh and has come of the wicked one .
WHO will do anything to convince anyone that its okay if one believes not , they wont perish
For God is love it too can say . Rather odd this version of love that has made the road to GOD very broad
sin accepting , accepts unbelief , IS a love that will end with the UPMOST death to all who bought it .
But man he sure makes it sound as though its all for the good of humanity . Hims a liar . oh He sure is a liar .
BUT EVERY WORD OF GOD IS TRUE . SO lets ponder on that for awhile shall we ..........WHO
we gonna TRUST , these big smiling hirelings , OR GOD .
ALREADY KNOW which of the two this lamb gonna trust in . AND if a man trusts not IN what JESUS taught , HIS words,
WELL THEY DONT TRUST IN GOD . we better all beware and be on gaurd
for many have been and many are being beguiled BIG TIME by what they all think is LOVE and is of GOD . and IT AINT .
 
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I have my weapon . THE LORD GOD ALL MIGHTY be my strength .
Now be encouraged by this next scenario for TRUE it BE .
The LORD GOD all mighty is in control of my life . And if my time be up , THANKS BE to His
grace given me IN CHRIST JESUS , i depart and go home to a far far far better place .
But if my time on earth is not up
Ten thousands of men could surround me
all in entrenched around me with fully automatic machine guns and heavy artillery as well .
And the command fire would be given
and a sheet of iron rounds come flying at me as well as massive rounds of artillery
and yet for all that STILL I WOULD BE DELIVERED BY GOD .
On the other hand if my time were up
i could be walking down the street and suddenly Just fall as i breathed my last .
OUR TIME IS NOT UP till GOD says so . I actually BELIEVE THIS TO BE VERY VERY TRUE .
And that i need not to rely or trust on my own flesh to deliver me . ONLY HE can and if HE wills to do so
HE WILL . Its very peaceful to just TRUST IN HE and in HE ALONE .
As for my weapons they are spiritual
and as for being a partaker in the building of the TRUE temple , that shall be done
by the preaching of the gospel and unto each who does believe stone by stone they enter into that temple
BUILT by GOD and not by man . we are but co helpers by THE SPIRIT by preaching the gospel .
And by chance if we are surrounded and as they come to take our life
Let our last words be , LORD FORGIVE THEM this sin .

Good answer! The Lord is my Primary weapon.
The Lord told me one time that the super preppers will be in no way better prepared than the Lord's people who are orepared in Christ. They will have teams looking for them, doing sweeps, with equipment...and will walk up to within feet of them and they will not see them sitting there. (prolly hunkered down trembling!).
It's going to be just like in scripture. A thousand will die at my left and 10,000 on my right side, but it wil not come near me! We either Believe that or we don't. I believe it.
I'm not going to be the guy on judgment day who is standing before Jesus and He says, I gave you the truth plain as day, why did ye not Believe it? (Well you see Lord I watched some video that said they got all the translations wrong so the word was unreliable...!!!). You see, people who do not believe it wind up not cultivating a relationship with the Lord and so consequently will not be under the Lord's protection.

Take David and Goliath for instance. Was that not a miracle of God? Does anyone really believe that God was not guiding that rock to the proper place after David launched it? Oh, David might have been good alright, but that was a perfect shot.
One of the morals of that bible story is that, David still had to walk out onto that field and launch that rock, so we might have to too.

Hopefully we get Raptured out before that happens. But we don't know. It still might get worse for us in the meantime and so we have a duty to be ready to meet (The Lord's) challenges which will include helping to protect our neighbors in love in Christ.
 

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A few years ago my husband bought an AR15, a shot gun and 9Mil

An AR15 is the best thing going right now for war. A shotgun for inside the home is devastating, but if I had to step outside, give me a rifle! Not enough range or capacity.

I never did buy a 9mm. I was always a 45 man. I now that 9 mil ammo is cheap and plentiful, but the cartridge is woefully underpowered! To get decent 9 mil ammo you have to buy the specialized expensive rounds for way too much. Most people think that firearms are some sort of magical talisman or something. It aint like that in the real world. If you have people attacking your home, then someone will be behind the cover of an automobile. If he's on the far side of the car, you can't shoot him with a 9 mil. It wont punch thru both sides. Neither will a 45 auto! A 44 mag will! A 308 will! You can make his life a living hell with 223's, lol. You might or might not get him but he'll know your trying!

Just because the military uses 9 mil is what is makes it so popular. But the military has a team behind each man, you don't!
And all those short barreled 223s the military uses isn't the right rifle for civilians! I recommend the 20" barrel 223 AR15 for civilians because of the cartridge. A 223 is a small light bullet and loses a lot of velocity in short barreled rifles like military uses but again, they can get away with it because they come with a team. A 20" barrel model will give you more velocity and effectiveness of hits on targets.

What barrel length is your husbands AR15? He may be military but will he have a team when he has trouble at home? Doubtful, so even being military he needs a 20" at home.
You are his team, Sister! Could you back him up effectively?
 

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HEY GUYS! I was making a joke out of the saying that you never forget how to ride a bike (as that was being compared to shooting a gun) and confessing how exceptionally untrue that is in my case even though I had been in the millitary and how utterly pathetic I was at remembering anything. And thats it.

In confessing so much does not equate to me somehow believing that "the weapons of our warfare in Christ are carnal" or that I even care to know about, discuss or to glory in barrels sizesclfh

Thats not my thing, there is nothing more I can be least interested in.

Now if you want to discuss THE Sword/ word of God (I'm all in) tsml

And I know that is not in this thread so, enjoy any further discussion on these things without me.
 
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On the opening day of hunting season in the US. The 5th largest army in the world takes the field. If invaded ......the guerilla forces will already be there.

As for subs off the shelf in international waters, do you really think military targets and large cities are not on the list to hit?
Not any actual answer to my question.