Trump now says he doesn't know who the Proud Boys are

[Seven of Nine]

Last night during the debate... "Proud Boys: Stand back and stand by."

Today during his first news conference... "I don't know who the Proud Boys are."

"I don't know who the Proud Boys are. You'll have to give me a definition because I really don't know who they are. I can only say they have to stand down and let law enforcement do their work. ... As people see how bad this radical liberal Democrat movement is and how weak, the law enforcement is going to come back stronger and stronger. But again, I don't know who Proud Boys are, but whoever they are, they have to stand down and let law enforcement do their work." Trump says he doesn't know who Proud Boys are after telling them to "stand by"

 

[Seven of Nine]

Video: Trump Refuses to Condemn White Supremacists

 

[Seven of Nine]

The App That The Proud Boys Used To Celebrate Donald Trump’s Debate Performance

 

[Giuliano]

Last night during the debate... "Proud Boys: Stand back and stand by."

Today during his first news conference... "I don't know who the Proud Boys are."

"I don't know who the Proud Boys are. You'll have to give me a definition because I really don't know who they are. I can only say they have to stand down and let law enforcement do their work. ... As people see how bad this radical liberal Democrat movement is and how weak, the law enforcement is going to come back stronger and stronger. But again, I don't know who Proud Boys are, but whoever they are, they have to stand down and let law enforcement do their work." Trump says he doesn't know who Proud Boys are after telling them to "stand by"

Does anyone believe this?

 

[Candidus]

Does anyone believe this?

I do!

Do YOU know who the "Proud Boys" are?

Do you know who the Rainbow Girls are? I know more about them than I do the "Proud Boys." Which isn't saying much.

We can see what BLM and ANTIFA stand for; we witness that on the news every day. We know what they stand for by either their official Marxist foundations, or their actions. Both of them are based upon Marxism, anarchy, and racism.

The "Proud Boys" describe themselves publicly as a drinking club with a passion for patriotism. Tenets
I had to look it up, because they are such a small start-up. All I knew is that they are politically on the Right, and stand against Burning, Looting and Murder, unlike the Left.

I also know that they are no threat, have never done any Burning, Looting or Murder, and that the Propagandists attempt to make them out to be Racist, when there is no evidence for such an accusation whatsoever. The FBI, (you know, that corrupt political organization that got caught with their pants down attempting a Coup against Trump) follows mindlessly the Leftist/ Communist/ Anti-American / Racist "Southern Poverty Law Center's" control.

No one has ever had their business burned, their store looted, or anyone personally murdered as a result of the Proud Boys. There is not example of an organizational "White Nationalism" as Propagandists spew. yet, I must learn more about them, because if they are maligned and hated so much by the Left, ANTIFA, BLM or the FBI... then they must be a real threat to their evil agenda!
Look at the link for the Proud Boys. Where is the racism? Sure, there are probably "some" members that could be "Racists," like any organization. Yet, unlike Black Lives Matter, racism is not their charter.

 

[Giuliano]

I found it interesting that right after Trump said this, i read a story about a Proud Boy being arrested and indicted.

Proud Boys member Alan Swinney arrested on 12 charges | KOIN.com

Well-known right-wing protester and Proud Boys member Alan Swinney is spending the morning in police custody, according to Multnomah County District Attorney Mike Schmidt.

Swinney was arrested by Portland police shortly after 6:30 a.m. on Wednesday morning — weeks after an indictment was issued on September 11. The 50-year-old is facing 12 total charges, including multiple for assault, unlawful use of a weapon, pointing a firearm at another person and unlawful use of mace.

According to the district attorney’s office, the indictment alleges Swinney fired a paintball gun at another person at a protest on August 15. That paintball shot caused physical harm to the individual. He is also accused of unlawfully using mace or a similar substance against another person and attempting to assault others on the same day.

Swinney also used the same substance while attending a pro-Trump rally in Portland on August 22. Videos posted on social media show he pointed a paintball gun at counter-protesters on the same day — at one point, firing off a paintball and hurting another person once again.

A short time later, more videos were posted that captured Swinney aiming a real gun into the crowd. No shots were fired, but he is now facing charges stemming from the incident and his other actions throughout the day.

On Tuesday afternoon, Swinney posted to Twitter asking for people to donate to a fund in order to help him with legal fees.​

“Help me fight these people,” he tweeted. “Every retweet makes a terrorist lose his or her mind.”​

 

[Candidus]

I found it interesting that right after Trump said this, i read a story about a Proud Boy being arrested and indicted.

Proud Boys member Alan Swinney arrested on 12 charges | KOIN.com

Well-known right-wing protester and Proud Boys member Alan Swinney is spending the morning in police custody, according to Multnomah County District Attorney Mike Schmidt.

Swinney was arrested by Portland police shortly after 6:30 a.m. on Wednesday morning — weeks after an indictment was issued on September 11. The 50-year-old is facing 12 total charges, including multiple for assault, unlawful use of a weapon, pointing a firearm at another person and unlawful use of mace.

According to the district attorney’s office, the indictment alleges Swinney fired a paintball gun at another person at a protest on August 15. That paintball shot caused physical harm to the individual. He is also accused of unlawfully using mace or a similar substance against another person and attempting to assault others on the same day.

Swinney also used the same substance while attending a pro-Trump rally in Portland on August 22. Videos posted on social media show he pointed a paintball gun at counter-protesters on the same day — at one point, firing off a paintball and hurting another person once again.

A short time later, more videos were posted that captured Swinney aiming a real gun into the crowd. No shots were fired, but he is now facing charges stemming from the incident and his other actions throughout the day.

On Tuesday afternoon, Swinney posted to Twitter asking for people to donate to a fund in order to help him with legal fees.​

“Help me fight these people,” he tweeted. “Every retweet makes a terrorist lose his or her mind.”​

I could show the countless times that a Leftist produced an actual gun, used pepper spray, baseball bats, Molotov Cocktails, rocks, bricks and the like. You just point out the inequity of selective outrage and Leftist Law Enforcement. "12 charges" when the vast majority of charges never get filed against real violators of the Law. One person (though the article never says whether these were used in defense or not) were amplified beyond belief. "Pointing a paintball gun" at protester who were throwing stuff at him and threatening him? It's a "paintball gun!" Get over it! It was not like he had a baseball bat lifted to and charging them! It was not throwing a brick! it was not like he tried to burn them up with a firebomb!

When the police arrest one of the Leftists, they merely charge them with a singular crime... not every imaginable violation they can invent to magnify it! Your isolated example in the sea as large as the Pacific of unpunished Leftist violence, proves the point that the Democrats want Burning, Looting and Murder in the name of BLM and ANTIFA to continue unpunished, and if you resist it, you are a target of their political retribution.

Like the couple in Saint Louis that stood outside in front of their house after a violent Racist Mob that just busted down the gates at their private property and were threatened with being murdered or their house burned down, are now being prosecuted for using their Constitutional right to defend themselves! This man shot someone with a paintball. Tell me, was he being threatened? Certainly his response was "less than lethal." Pepper spay... was he being pepper sprayed by the opposing mob? Were they being violent and threatening him? You see, defending against a Leftist mob is now illegal. Doing something illegal when you are part of a Leftist mob is "Social Justice."

Look at the video... when he pulled out a gun they were being attacked by a violent terrorist mob. They were throwing projectiles at him, pepper spraying them, and advancing on them with weapons.... so tell me, why would brandishing a weapon to stave off a violent mob that is trying to harm or kill you be wrong? Only in Leftist Controlled Democrat Cities!

 

[Seven of Nine]

Does anyone believe this?

I'm sure the only people who believe his conspicuous backtracking are his apologists. No one else is buying it. All we're get from his apologists are excuses and deflections to the left-wing in an attempt to distract from Trump's blatant dishonesty. I'm not surprised he backtracked on his Proud Boys statement because it's just like him. He tried to do the same with David Duke and Prince Andrew. He's just trying to save face now because of all the backlash. Trump is a pathological liar, who incites violence and takes pleasure in degrading others and causing dissension.

 

[Giuliano]

I'm sure the only people who believe his conspicuous backtracking are his apologists. No one else is buying it. All we're get from his apologists are excuses and deflections to the left-wing in an attempt to distract from Trump's blatant dishonesty. I'm not surprised he backtracked on his Proud Boys statement because it's just like him. He tried to do the same with David Duke and Prince Andrew. He's just trying to save face now because of all the backlash. Trump is a pathological liar, who incites violence and takes pleasure in degrading others and causing dissension.

I don't think even his apologists believe him. How could they? They are pretending to believe him out of partisanship.

 

[Seven of Nine]

I don't think even his apologists believe him. How could they? They are pretending to believe him out of partisanship.

It's undeniably obvious that Trump backtracked and he flat-out lied when he said he doesn't know who the Proud Boys are. Personally, I think it's dishonest to deny he doesn't know who the Proud Boys are after he plainly said "Proud Boys, stand back and standby!" on national television.

 

[marks]

Does anyone believe this?

Well, I know the Vagos, or I used to, but I don't know who they are. I used to know one of them, Billy, he was my neighbor. The Vagos sometimes came around. I even got pulled over one time by cops who said they suspected me of being one of them.

If I were to address them, I'd say, "Vagos . . . straighten up and fly right! No more drugs, no more violence." But I don't know who they are. I just know about them

I don't understand why this would be difficult to understand.

Much love!

 

[marks]

It's undeniably obvious that Trump backtracked and he flat-out lied when he said he doesn't know who the Proud Boys are. Personally, I think it's dishonest to deny he doesn't know who the Proud Boys are after he plainly said "Proud Boys, stand back and standby!" on national television.

So he can't address a group that he's been told about, but doesn't actually know them, without someone trying to pillory him for it?

Much love!

 

[Giuliano]

So he can't address a group that he's been told about, but doesn't actually know them, without someone trying to pillory him for it?

Much love!

It would be nice to know he didn't mean that comment as a threat. It would be nice to know he wasn't encouraging the Proud Boys to become violent during or following the election.

It would also be nice to be able to believe Trump pays attention when being briefed by the FBI and Homeland Security so that when he speaks, he knows what he's talking about? It would be nice too to be able to believe he knows what he's talking about. He's now telling us he says stuff without knowing what he's talking about.

 

[Seven of Nine]

It would be nice to know he didn't mean that comment as a threat. It would be nice to know he wasn't encouraging the Proud Boys to become violent during or following the election.

It would also be nice to be able to believe Trump pays attention when being briefed by the FBI and Homeland Security so that when he speaks, he knows what he's talking about? It would be nice too to be able to believe he knows what he's talking about. He's now telling us he says stuff without knowing what he's talking about.

It would be nice if Trump didn't incite violence or relish in the violent acts committed against other people.

It would nice if Trump learned how to tame his tongue, didn't use profanity and he stopped taking the Lord's name in vain.

It would be nice if Trump refrained from using Twitter or he was suspended from Twitter because he refuses to behave like an adult.

It would be even better if Trump didn't associate himself with Evangelical Christianity and Conservatism because he's profoundly tarnished the public reputation of both. It's not a favorable public image for Conservative Christianity or for the Gospel when Trump's Christian supporters are seen in the public eye as downright hypocrites, who have abandoned Christian principles and their personal moral convictions to support him.

 

[aspen]

I guess when you sleep though your briefings you tend to miss stuff.

well, and mob bosses pride themselves on not knowing the foot soldiers, right?

 

[aspen]

Oh just watch those Republican senators scurrying away from Trump......

I guess they saw the same debate I did.....

'It was awful': Congressional GOP react to debate — MSNBC

 

[Enoch111]

Last night during the debate... "Proud Boys: Stand back and stand by." Today during his first news conference... "I don't know who the Proud Boys are."

Trump missed a golden opportunity. What Trump should really have said is this" Proud Boys -- I am really proud of you for standing up to the anarchists and racists who are destroying America. You are the real patriots. Keep at it!".

"The basic tenet of the group is that we are “Western chauvinists who refuse to apologize for creating the modern world...The Proud Boys confuse the media because the group is anti-SJW* without being alt-right. “Western chauvinist” includes all races, religions, and sexual preferences.”
About Us

*SJW = social justice warriors = lawless anarchists

The Leftist media and the Democrats have no problem smearing anyone who stands up to their Marxist/Communist/Fascist/Anarchist agenda and opposes it. Biden falsely accused Kyle Rittenhouse of being a "White Supremacist", only because he stood up to the Leftist thugs. His lawyers are suing Biden.
Kyle Rittenhouse's legal team to sue Biden campaign for libel over ad
Kyle Rittenhouse to sue Biden for libel, attorney says | khou.com

That's why they hate Trump viscerally. But Trump should have applauded Proud Boys, since there are even some black conservatives within that group.

Frankly, I was expecting an even more aggressive opposition from those who are on the Right, and are fed up with the rioting and looting of BLM/Antifa etc.

 

[aspen]

Trump missed a golden opportunity. What Trump should really have said is this" Proud Boys -- I am really proud of you for standing up to the anarchists and racists who are destroying America. You are the real patriots. Keep at it!".

"The basic tenet of the group is that we are “Western chauvinists who refuse to apologize for creating the modern world...The Proud Boys confuse the media because the group is anti-SJW* without being alt-right. “Western chauvinist” includes all races, religions, and sexual preferences.”
About Us

*SJW = social justice warriors = lawless anarchists

The Leftist media and the Democrats have no problem smearing anyone who stands up to their Marxist/Communist/Fascist/Anarchist agenda and opposes it. Biden falsely accused Kyle Rittenhouse of being a "White Supremacist", only because he stood up to the Leftist thugs. His lawyers are suing Biden.
Kyle Rittenhouse's legal team to sue Biden campaign for libel over ad
Kyle Rittenhouse to sue Biden for libel, attorney says | khou.com

That's why they hate Trump viscerally. But Trump should have applauded Proud Boys, since there are even some black conservatives within that group.

Frankly, I was expecting an even more aggressive opposition from those who are on the Right, and are fed up with the rioting and looting of BLM/Antifa etc.

ok..

so he is craven

 

[Enoch111]

well, and mob bosses pride themselves on not knowing the foot soldiers, right?

Proud Boys Founder Announces He’s Suing Biden, CNN and ‘Reporters Who Call Multiracial Patriotic Group White Supremacists and Nazis’
Proud Boys Founder Announces He's Suing Biden, CNN and 'Reporters Who Call Multiracial Patriotic Group White Supremacists and Nazis'

Once again, this shows that Christians who support the Leftist garbage in America are actually helping Satan and his minions.

 

[Enoch111]

Once again, this shows that Christians who support the Leftist garbage in America are actually helping Satan and his minions.

Black Salt Lake Proud Boys Leader Publicly Denounces White Supremacy — Angry White Twitter Leftists Hurl Racist Attacks at Him Anyway
Black Salt Lake Proud Boys Leader Publicly Denounces White Supremacy -- Angry White Twitter Leftists Hurl Racist Attacks at Him Anyway