Trump Moving Too Fast?

[amigo de christo]

Franklin Graham....."just-say-a-little-prayer"....? Paula White and Kenneth Copeland....are true spiritual leaders....? Trump said in an interview after the first assassination attempt after he had recovered and when it was being said that it caused him to draw closer to God.....that he believes "good" people go to heaven and "bad" people go to hell? Is that the gospel that Jesus and the apostles taught? No it isn't..... that is the gospel of nominal belief. A church that can't discern and tell the difference between nominal belief and genuine faith is in big trouble.

Remember when i told us that even if a man can lip some truths
YOU must examine who he supports .
Franklin wont even dare correct paula and others .
SOMETHING is dead wrong sister .
Where is HIS VOICE . where is HIS VOICE in exposing these wolves .
ITS SILENCE .
NO true leader who has had HIS senses well exercised to discern good and evil
Would have been so silent . BUT then again , NO man who has not had his senses exercised to discern good and evil
SHOULD EVER HAVE BEEN A LEADER TO BEGIN WITH .
Franklin was not chosen
HIS DADDY was BILLY and thus HE JUST got appointed . FAR TOO many always put their sons into the office .
And i know what i seen billy say about these other religoins . Ecumincalism .
Folks should never have gotten unequally yoked . The only thing most leaders now say is
WE DONT JUDGE other leaders AND NOR SHOULD YOU , THEY ALL PART OF THE BODY , OR SO THEY SAY .
YET WHERE IS THE DISCERNMENT SISTER .
I know sisters in the LORD who have far better discernment than these lost souls ever did .
And we both know women dont lead . But i was just saying that cause its a fact .
I know sisters that actually far well know the bible better than these lost souls do . ITS Not looking good sister
not for this generation at all .

 

[amigo de christo]

If not for the Grace of God, where would any of us be.

yet most have not the grace of GOD . most rather use grace
as an excuse to SO CALLED NOT JUDGE these false leaders who are fleecing the heck out of all churches now .
THAT AINT grace .
I know paul had grace , I know peter did , jude did , james did
john did . THEY SURE DID expose the false . OH BUT THEY SURE DID .
today if anyone tries to expose ANYONE who even claims to beleive on JESUS
they get told STOP JUDGING . something HAS WENT dead wrong my friend .
Cause i seen the letters them apostels wrote . I SEEN how they viewed both sin and false leaders .
THEY EXPOSED IT ALL . today if one exposes ITS JUDGE NOT HATER .

 

[amigo de christo]

If not for the Grace of God, where would any of us be.

Lost and in sin , probably sitting in a nar church BELIEVING i was saved
or perhaps in a liberal church BELIEVING I WAS saved . YET LOST IN SIN and DARKNESS .
SO lets GO ahead and THANK GOD for PULLING us out of darkness
and that now the sheep DONT heed hirleings but rather HEED THE VOICE OF CHRIST
and are well dug in the scrips , LOVING AND EMBRACING THE TRUTH
rather than as many do , TWISTING AND OMITTING whatever gets in the way of their own hearts desires .
SO YEAH . I WOULD BE LOST . LETS THANK GOD shall we .

 

[Triumph1300]

Okay, you are a Trump hater.

Absolutely not!!

I wish he would repent, and accept Jesus Christ as his saviour.

Just because a person stands up against a politician's policies and behaviour does not mean there is hate.
The "hate card" is thrown around here to much.
Just because there is a "Trump Bible", does not mean he is born again.

He said he believes in Christ....so does satan.

 

[Lizbeth]

The problem is far too many have sat under fleecers of men who got rich fleecing the flocks .
These men and women of belial , OF WHICH ARE MANY , could not defend their positoin
by doctrine and thus
any time a man like me shows up to expose them and their doctrine
THE folks who sat under them see me as a judger and hater .
THESE WOLVES cannot defend their doctrines by THE BIBLE
and thus they had to get this people infected with a lie .
And that lie implies if one actually warns against them , THEY are judgmental haters .
Sad thing is this generation is fallen for the lie .
Worse it has got too my friend . Now if one even speaks against
UNBELEIF in JESUS , EVEN THEY get seen as judgmental and hating .
Its only the ones going with the flow of the lie that get seen as loving .
Too many have fallen in love with a lie . SO few love the TRUTH anymore .

Amen. And the thing about loving the truth, is that if we truly do love it, we will embrace it and allow it to correct and instruct us. Unfortunately, most people, instead of letting the word of God correct their error, they just dig into their error all the more and start flinging false accusations. That is not loving the truth, that is loving self.

 

[amigo de christo]

Amen. And the thing about loving the truth, is that if we truly do love it, we will embrace it and allow it to correct and instruct us. Unfortunately, most people, instead of letting the word of God correct their error, they just dig into their error all the more and start flinging false accusations. That is not loving the truth, that is loving self.

Ba , ba , ba , BINGO sister . Exactly right my dear sister .

 

[Triumph1300]

He believes in Jesus and has often mentioned His name

So does satan and his demons!

 

[Lizbeth]

Trump is not a theologian, not even close to a Bible thumper layman - we all know this. But a child can believe in Jesus on a basic level. So yes he is an infant believer.
You are right that salvation is not merited ... " not by works". He isn't claiming good works though, he is claiming faith.
And btw, faith in God, His Word and the works of the Holy Spirit, make you holy. God makes us better, good. Wouldn't you classify Christians as good rather than evil? We are good because we have received grace, a free gift of faith, salvation. Positionally we are good - not that we earn are way, but this goodness passes on into eternity - evil doesn't.

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Christians, believers that Jesus died for our sins, was burired and rose on the third day, are all on different levels of spiritual knowledge and discernment. As we look at a child, we would consider him clueless about life, nevertheless God could change him into a Billy Graham or John MacArthur.
Btw, who do you revere as a brilliant teacher/ leader, of Christian theology?
Those who are lost, do not believe in Jesus. You seem to attack the Body of Christ unjustly. The Body is governed by Christ and so His sheep are secure. We are either His sheep or not. Don't worry about the Body, it is intact, whoever is in his schedule to he saved, will and whoever He had in mind to save, have been. His plan is perfect, the remnant is precise.
There are Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus atheists and all sorts who are lost - focus on them instead of worrying about Christianity.
As for Paula White:
Pastor Paula White-Cain will return to the White House as a Special Government Employee and Senior Advisor of the newly created White House Faith Office. In the last 40 years, White-Cain has expanded her influence globally in almost 200 countries, ministering, fighting for religious freedom and humanitarian rights, and advocating for the voiceless. She is the founder and president of Paula White Ministries and National Faith Advisory Board. She is president of City Destiny and the overseer and a teaching pastor at StoryLife Church in Florida. Paula previously served an advisor to President Trump in the White House Faith and Opportunity Initiative. She also served as chairwoman of the Evangelical Advisory Board (2016). Paula is a celebrated New York Times best-selling author, teacher, beloved wife, mother, grandmother, mentor, popular TV personality, and spirit-led preacher of God’s Word. She is married to legendary singer/songwriter Jonathan Cain of the iconic Rock & Roll Hall of Fame band Journey.
Sounds pretty impressive to me. What have you accomplished in the name of Jesus Christ? Oh ... a self appointed Church critic in an online Christian forum? Whoop-di-do. Well done good and faithful servant!

Oh dear. Whatever charitable works one might do has no bearing whatsoever on whether their doctrine is false and they are leading millions of God's people ASTRAY. Only God knows their true motives to begin with, and even the heathen do charitable works. And what rich and famous spouse one might have certainly has no bearing on anything either....why would someone who is supposedly a follower of Christ think that has any import at all in the kingdom of God when the scripture says what is esteemed by man is abomination to Him? And does Paula White even pay any attention at all to the instruction for women not to usurp authority over men in the church? That is a Jezebel spirit. Try as you might, there is absolutely no way to white-wash and justify worldliness, disobedience and false doctrine and leading the flock of God into apostasy.

 

[Lizbeth]

So does satan and his demons!

Amen. Far too many are still naive and gullible when by now they should at least be DISCERNING!

 

[Triumph1300]

But a child can believe in Jesus on a basic level. So yes he is an infant believer.

Bad example to justify his "Christianity".
Don't compare the president of the United States to a child.

A child does not have a criminal record.
He is born again or he is not born again. That's all that counts.

He is a grown up person having a major effect on what happens in this world.
There is to much at stake.
Millions could die if he makes certain decisions.

He is not a "child".

 

[Marvelloustime]

Lost and in sin , probably sitting in a nar church BELIEVING i was saved
or perhaps in a liberal church BELIEVING I WAS saved . YET LOST IN SIN and DARKNESS .
SO lets GO ahead and THANK GOD for PULLING us out of darkness
and that now the sheep DONT heed hirleings but rather HEED THE VOICE OF CHRIST
and are well dug in the scrips , LOVING AND EMBRACING THE TRUTH
rather than as many do , TWISTING AND OMITTING whatever gets in the way of their own hearts desires .
SO YEAH . I WOULD BE LOST . LETS THANK GOD shall we .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

yet most have not the grace of GOD . most rather use grace
as an excuse to SO CALLED NOT JUDGE these false leaders who are fleecing the heck out of all churches now .
THAT AINT grace .
I know paul had grace , I know peter did , jude did , james did
john did . THEY SURE DID expose the false . OH BUT THEY SURE DID .
today if anyone tries to expose ANYONE who even claims to beleive on JESUS
they get told STOP JUDGING . something HAS WENT dead wrong my friend .
Cause i seen the letters them apostels wrote . I SEEN how they viewed both sin and false leaders .
THEY EXPOSED IT ALL . today if one exposes ITS JUDGE NOT HATER .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

Friend its very obvious by what i just read from your own fingers
that you have fallen for what will and what has destroyed many churches .
Paula white is worse than the buddist or muslim . WHY
cause as false as those religoins are and believe me when i say they will be damned , PAULA DOES HER EVIL
USING THE VERY NAME OF JESUS CHRIST . that is the worst place to be my friend .
Worst . Too many jezebels and men of belial has led this people to their own destruction .
OH i know , i know you gonna harp on me as though i am attacking the very FLOCK OF GOD himself .
THEY AINT of GOD at all . THEY FLEECERS , FLEECERS who got rich , YET ROTTED POOR , off the backs
of those who loved and envied their lifestyles . We get exactly what we sit under .
IF folks love deceptoin then that is where they shall sit . Far too many wolves in wool these days my friend . far too many .
ANd in order to make men like me seem wicked and evil
THEY SOLD YOU ALL A BILL OF ROTTED GOODS . A basket of rotted fruit
that claims men like me who expose these wolves and thier doctrine are non loving and judgemental .
I AM just sorrowful and sad to see SO MANY have fallen for the ruse .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

Sie order and realms of darkness and of men have long done evil .
America is not the lily white nation of GOD who does all to bring HIM GLORY .
America and the west have fallen and fallen into great wickedness .
There is no nation on earth that does not do evil and has not done harm to mankind .
But WOE to the nation who does so USING THE NAME OF GOD AND OF CHRIST .
WOE unto those . For while it is evil to do evil and wrong
HOW MUCH worse when it be done USING the name OF CHRIST to do so .
And on that note a lotta churches better repent as well and fast too .
FOR MANY have been using HIS name .
NOT TO GLORIFY HIM , NOT TO HONOR THE SON , BUT TO PROMOTE A LIE that has TROD CHRIST Under foot .

@amigo de christo

 

[amigo de christo]

Oh dear. Whatever charitable works one might do has no bearing whatsoever on whether their doctrine is false and they are leading millions of God's people ASTRAY. Only God knows their true motives to begin with, and even the heathen do charitable works. And what rich and famous spouse one might have certainly has no bearing on anything either....why would someone who is supposedly a follower of Christ think that has any import at all in the kingdom of God when the scripture says what is esteemed by man is abomination to Him? And does Paula White even pay any attention at all to the instruction for women not to usurp authority over men in the church? That is a Jezebel spirit. Try as you might, there is absolutely no way to white-wash and justify worldliness, disobedience and false doctrine and leading the flock of God into apostasy.

Sister its getting worse now and much faster than ever .
Remember that by grace i warned us even years back
it would continue to peak . That indeed the longer this goes on
that if one touches the golden bull , its not just gonna be words against those who do such a thing .
LAWS GONNA CHANGE SISTER . that which has always been of man is an abomination to GOD .
And its gonna peak sister . Those who even hollered love non stop and tolerance and judge not
Gonna be led to murder against the true saints . THIS is not gonna slow down sister
its gonna peak . But fear it not . fear not what man can do .
THANKS BE TO GOD AND TO HIS CHRIST WHOM HE DID SEND
AND WHO was raised FROM THE DEAD , we got a real GOOD END SISTER .
cant say the same for the many even within christendom who lipped his name but WORKED INQUITY .

 

[amigo de christo]

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Drop them lovely gems dear sister . For the day cometh
WHEN THE DOOR shall shut and all outside will wail . Work while there still be time . CHRISTENDOME HAS REJECTED JESUS THE CHRIST and has embraced the lie now and it will get worse and worse . THE SHEEP have a GOOD END
THANKS BE TO JESUS THE CHRIST .
But woe wail them wolves who lipped HIS NAME AND DARED TO PREACH the false all inclusive interfaith anti christ false love lie .
AND they DID IT IN HIS NAME TOO . Stay IN THE BIBLE sister .

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

So does satan and his demons!

"Believes in" means that Jesus died for his sins, was buried and rose on the 3rd day". Satan and demons are not redeemable, nor do they promote that belief - they despise it.

 

[amigo de christo]

Bad example to justify his "Christianity".
Don't compare the president of the United States to a child.

A child does not have a criminal record.
He is born again or he is not born again. That's all that counts.

He is a grown up person having a major effect on what happens in this world.
There is to much at stake.
Millions could die if he makes certain decisions.

He is not a "child".

THEY GONNA JUSTIFY to the end what man loveth . And beleive me it will be THIER END .
It wont matter what you say or show them , if a man has his heart on this world and this kingdom
YOU NOR I can pry it . All we can do is warn . Both the left and the right ARE GONNA JUISTFY their men .
And both are gonna GO into the same lie that has infiltrated their realms .
THE RELIGOINS WILL MERGE . and all who do so will believe they follow GOD and HIS LOVE
but it will be a lie of the father of lies who came in HIS OWN NAME to decieve
all who loved a lie and had rejected the love of the truth . Men gonna do as men gonna do
Butthe sheep wll do as JESUS BIDS TO DO

 

[amigo de christo]

"Believes in" means that Jesus died for his sins, was buried and rose on the 3rd day". Satan and demons are not redeemable, nor do promote that belief - they despise it.

Be not decieved . satan can quoate any scrip but he will twist it to promote a lie .
AND MANY NOW lip HIS NAME and yet FOLLOW A LIE . sorry friend but many have been decieved .
AND I ALREADY KNEW and KNOW THE WORLD was , the many i speak of
SIT RIGHT SMACK DAB in the middle of christendom . at best guess i say over ninety eight percent . but it could be higher
You all got no idea what most now sit under . AND foR ONE second lets forget politics .
I SPEAK OF THE JUDGE NOT FALSE LOVE LIE . ITS GOT MANY NOW . MANY . SO very many .

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Bad example to justify his "Christianity".
Don't compare the president of the United States to a child.

A child does not have a criminal record.
He is born again or he is not born again. That's all that counts.

He is a grown up person having a major effect on what happens in this world.
There is to much at stake.
Millions could die if he makes certain decisions.

He is not a "child".

Spiritually we all have been infants regardless of physical age when we just became Christians. So it is appropriate to use that analogy, to call him a new believer, who is feeding on milk still.
"I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for it. Indeed, you are still not ready" (1 Corinthians 3:2). 1 Peter 2:2 also speaks of craving "the sincere milk of the word," encouraging Christians to seek the basic truths of the faith.
Trump is in that stage, and experientially growing as God intended.