Trump Moving Too Fast?
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AngelicArcher
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Trump Derangement Syndrome & Blasphemy.
If you think about it,it doesn't sound good at all.
Imagine what God thinks.
Christians who stand with his choice,one who he chose to bring our America back from the darkness, is condemned by those claiming to know Jesus. And God is even told by them that we who support Trump worship God's choice,Trump.They accuse us of Apostasy because we stand with God's choice.
Yes. I do wonder what God thinks of that.
Ronald David Bruno
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Okay, you are a Trump hater. At least you are against the Left movement. But Trump is also. 75% of Americans were in agreement with his overall direction - until his tariff dispute with China. Seems like most other countries want to cooperate. People are afraid to confront China. Big, Red China ... oooww
... don't mess with them. Nobody had the balls to. Most people in life avoid confrontation, would rather take the road with less friction. That is weak. America has been known for strength for a long time with periods of weakness (with Carter, Clinton, Obama and Biden). Trump is a negotiator, a very successful one. And he is going with God.
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Rockerduck
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TDS is hate and that is not of God. Those who Blaspheme the name of God is not of God. It is the world that the god of this world owns, which is death, and Christ defeated death on the Cross. We are not to be a part of this world. Romans 12:2. In 1 John 3:8 - He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.Trump Derangement Syndrome & Blasphemy.
If you think about it,it doesn't sound good at all.
Imagine what God thinks.
They accuse us of Apostasy because we stand with God's choice.
Yes. I do wonder what God thinks of that.
soberxp
Active Member
It sounds like it's the other way around and you know Trump better than Jesus Christ. You've heard more about China in your life than Jesus Christ from the mouths of your presidents and so-called God chosen politicians.
I respect God's choices and sovereign rule. But remember also that God chose Pharaoh......not everything the Lord does is for "good", but for His purposes as He is ruling & reigning. And He certainly chose Cyrus too.........one reason was to judge and destroy the kingdom of Babylon, dividing it in two. "Babylon" is currently the leading Gentile world system, essentially the christianized western Empire headed by the USA. What will replace it when it is brought down and diminished I wonder? ......could it have anything to do with the Jews and Israel and the Temple in Jerusalem, which remember was another reason for God choosing Cyrus? Are the times of the Gentiles coming to an end now? Cyrus is called "the destroyer of the Gentiles" in scripture. I want to pinch myself to make sure I'm awake and not dreaming, but it sure does seem as though the Lord is making big changes and bringing things to their final conclusion. There was a time when Babylon was judged and her "golden age" came to an end and the Jews returned to Israel. We need to be prepared for some cataclysmic changes, so that we do not lose heart and faint when it happens.Trump Derangement Syndrome & Blasphemy.
If you think about it,it doesn't sound good at all.
Imagine what God thinks.
They accuse us of Apostasy because we stand with God's choice.
Yes. I do wonder what God thinks of that.
Rockerduck
Well-Known Member
That's a lie the devil put in you. A president is a president, only God put him there. I don't belong to this world and worship no other than Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior. I am skilled in history and in world politics from college. I know how the devil works because I've talked to him. He has deceived you, when you read one thing and think another.
Which god is he going with though? The same one those false church leaders he surrounds himself with? Are they serving the true Christ and God? No they are not. Those who don't know and discern that they are false and that DT is only a nominal Christian, is because of being deceived. People need to wake up from their pleasant dreams and wishful thinking, and be prepared for what is really coming.
soberxp
Active Member
I don't understand what you're saying.
Because I don't like to eat from the tree of good and evil.
I only eat the tree of life.
amigo de christo
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Sie order and realms of darkness and of men have long done evil .
America is not the lily white nation of GOD who does all to bring HIM GLORY .
America and the west have fallen and fallen into great wickedness .
There is no nation on earth that does not do evil and has not done harm to mankind .
But WOE to the nation who does so USING THE NAME OF GOD AND OF CHRIST .
WOE unto those . For while it is evil to do evil and wrong
HOW MUCH worse when it be done USING the name OF CHRIST to do so .
And on that note a lotta churches better repent as well and fast too .
FOR MANY have been using HIS name .
NOT TO GLORIFY HIM , NOT TO HONOR THE SON , BUT TO PROMOTE A LIE that has TROD CHRIST Under foot .
amigo de christo
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Not all who voted for trump had TWS . but yes many do have it .
If you think for five seconds that Paula white , kenny and the nar realm serve GOD
then you would be blind .
You wanna know what both sides have in common . THEY sold out to an agenda
And one that came of the vatican and elites .
Many who even support Trump and vance , but not all , cannot see that the very religious tolerance act
the very abraham peace accords , interfaith interreligious movment
IS PROGRESSIVE LIBERAL . IT CAME from the most progressive liberal minds .
And yet many cannot see that BOTH the nar realm , its leaders , even trump n vance
ARE all a part of that message . Some can see it , and they stay far from it .
But most just blindly support and follow it beleiving it actually came from Trump .
IT didnt . IT came TO HIM from whom he serves . In other words
WHO ya flock with and gather with MEANS SOMETHING .
And if one flocks with and gathers with false leaders in christanity , THEY GONNA FALL .
Now its time for the peoples to truly PULL away from any hope in men and in these earthen realms .
Rather we need to get REAL busy preaching CHRIST , Teaching all things HE taught , later the apostels taught
and all biblical sound doctrine . WHEN the DOOR closes many are gonna realize too little too late
THEY had their hope and trust in the wrong things . But as i just wrote , IT WILL BE TOO LATE .
Now its time for all the peoples who name the name of JESUS
to actually put the focus BACK ON HIM , back on sound doctrine and put all hopes and affections above on HIM .
soberxp
Active Member
It's no use. They have no idea what you and I are talking about.
Because they are eating from the tree of good and evil fed to them by politicians, how can they possibly understand what you are saying?
Ronald David Bruno
Well-Known Member
I saw a female Bishop ( Of the DC Episcopal Church), give a short prayer at the inauguration, which waa more of a plea to Trump for LGBTQ and illegal aliens message. He did NOT choose her AND that is not his church - she was a mistake. Everyone was rolling eyes wondering who chose this person ( Marianne Budde).
I have heard a prayer by Franklin Graham in Trumps prayer meeting. He is a sound Christian. I don't know who you are referring to? He doesn 't surround himself with spiritual leaders - more like secret service. He loves his family and on occasion meets with Cabinet members. He believes in Jesus and has often mentioned His name. So it is the God of the Bible Trump believes.
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soberxp
Active Member
They should go to Trump Tower. The things they sell, The place of origin is affixed with a price tag are all made in China.
They fed you the evil of China in your The whole of life.
And the good of themselves in your The whole of life.
Makes no sense to the way of Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ died for everyone, and Jesus Christ said that no one is good except God.
They fed you the evil of China in your The whole of life.
And the good of themselves in your The whole of life.
Makes no sense to the way of Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ died for everyone, and Jesus Christ said that no one is good except God.
Franklin Graham....."just-say-a-little-prayer"....? Paula White and Kenneth Copeland....are true spiritual leaders....? Trump said in an interview after the first assassination attempt after he had recovered and when it was being said that it caused him to draw closer to God.....that he believes "good" people go to heaven and "bad" people go to hell? Is that the gospel that Jesus and the apostles taught? No it isn't..... that is the gospel of nominal belief. A church that can't discern and tell the difference between nominal belief and genuine faith is in big trouble.
Ronald David Bruno
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Trump is not a theologian, not even close to a Bible thumper layman - we all know this. But a child can believe in Jesus on a basic level. So yes he is an infant believer.
You are right that salvation is not merited ... " not by works". He isn't claiming good works though, he is claiming faith.
And btw, faith in God, His Word and the works of the Holy Spirit, make you holy. God makes us better, good. Wouldn't you classify Christians as good rather than evil? We are good because we have received grace, a free gift of faith, salvation. Positionally we are good - not that we earn are way, but this goodness passes on into eternity - evil doesn't.
Inside Donald Trump’s relationship with God, in his own words: 'I was saved'
As Holy Week begins, President Trump invokes divine purpose — linking faith, survival, and destiny in a presidency shaped by a missed bullet.
Christians, believers that Jesus died for our sins, was burired and rose on the third day, are all on different levels of spiritual knowledge and discernment. As we look at a child, we would consider him clueless about life, nevertheless God could change him into a Billy Graham or John MacArthur.
Btw, who do you revere as a brilliant teacher/ leader, of Christian theology?
Those who are lost, do not believe in Jesus. You seem to attack the Body of Christ unjustly. The Body is governed by Christ and so His sheep are secure. We are either His sheep or not. Don't worry about the Body, it is intact, whoever is in his schedule to he saved, will and whoever He had in mind to save, have been. His plan is perfect, the remnant is precise.
There are Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus atheists and all sorts who are lost - focus on them instead of worrying about Christianity.
As for Paula White:
Pastor Paula White-Cain will return to the White House as a Special Government Employee and Senior Advisor of the newly created White House Faith Office. In the last 40 years, White-Cain has expanded her influence globally in almost 200 countries, ministering, fighting for religious freedom and humanitarian rights, and advocating for the voiceless. She is the founder and president of Paula White Ministries and National Faith Advisory Board. She is president of City Destiny and the overseer and a teaching pastor at StoryLife Church in Florida. Paula previously served an advisor to President Trump in the White House Faith and Opportunity Initiative. She also served as chairwoman of the Evangelical Advisory Board (2016). Paula is a celebrated New York Times best-selling author, teacher, beloved wife, mother, grandmother, mentor, popular TV personality, and spirit-led preacher of God’s Word. She is married to legendary singer/songwriter Jonathan Cain of the iconic Rock & Roll Hall of Fame band Journey.
Sounds pretty impressive to me. What have you accomplished in the name of Jesus Christ? Oh ... a self appointed Church critic in an online Christian forum? Whoop-di-do. Well done good and faithful servant!
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amigo de christo
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Its the god of norman vincent peal and others , its that jesus that trump beleives in my friend .
Think about this .
Do you beleive for one second that an unrpentant homosexual
who sits in a lgbtq supporting church , REALLY KNOWS AND LOVES JESUS
OR , or is he really supporting and in love with a version of SAID JESUS that accepts his sin .
TRUMP is no different .
His god is the god of norman vincent peale . A WELL KNOWN universalist and power of postivie thought stuff .
IF i came to you and said HEY I BELIEVE IN JESUS
YET i supported all sorts of sins , WOULD YOU SO EASILY FALL for my cliam .
SO why fall for trumps , OR THE LEFTS claim .
NO sir , we better examine what JESUS folks follow . Cause if they jesus is a minstir of any sin
if they jesus is all about the nar realm or the progressive liberal . I GOT REAL BAD NEWS . IT AINT JESUS
at all .
amigo de christo
Well-Known Member
Friend its very obvious by what i just read from your own fingersTrump is not a theologian, not even close to a Bible thumper layman - we all know this. But a child can believe in Jesus on a basic level. So yes he is an infant believer.
You are right that salvation is not merited ... " not by works". He isn't claiming good works though, he is claiming faith.
And btw, faith on God, His Word and the Holy Spirit, make you holy. God makes us better, good. Wouldn't you classify Christians as good rather than evil? We are good because we have received grace, a free gift of faith, salvation. Positionally we are good - not that we earn are way, but this goodness passes on into eternity - evil doesn't.
Inside Donald Trump’s relationship with God, in his own words: 'I was saved'
As Holy Week begins, President Trump invokes divine purpose — linking faith, survival, and destiny in a presidency shaped by a missed bullet.www.foxnews.com
Christians, believers that Jesus died for our sins, was burired and rose on the third day, are all on different levels of spiritual knowledge and discernment. As we look at a child, we would consider him clueless about life, nevertheless God could change him into a Billy Graham or John MacArthur.
Btw, who do you revere as a brilliant teacher/ leader, of Christian theology?
Those who are lost, do not believe in Jesus. You seem to attack the Body of Christ unjustly. The Body is governed by Christ and so His sheep are secure. We are either His sheep or not. Don't worry about the Body, it is intact, whoever is in his schedule to he saved, will and whoever He had in mind to save, have been. His plan is perfect, the remnant is precise.
There are Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus atheists and all sorts who are lost - focus on them instead of worrying about Christianity.
As for Paula White:
Pastor Paula White-Cain will return to the White House as a Special Government Employee and Senior Advisor of the newly created White House Faith Office. In the last 40 years, White-Cain has expanded her influence globally in almost 200 countries, ministering, fighting for religious freedom and humanitarian rights, and advocating for the voiceless. She is the founder and president of Paula White Ministries and National Faith Advisory Board. She is president of City Destiny and the overseer and a teaching pastor at StoryLife Church in Florida. Paula previously served an advisor to President Trump in the White House Faith and Opportunity Initiative. She also served as chairwoman of the Evangelical Advisory Board (2016). Paula is a celebrated New York Times best-selling author, teacher, beloved wife, mother, grandmother, mentor, popular TV personality, and spirit-led preacher of God’s Word. She is married to legendary singer/songwriter Jonathan Cain of the iconic Rock & Roll Hall of Fame band Journey.
Sounds pretty impressive to me. What have you accomplished in the name of Jesus Christ? Oh ... a self appointed Church critic in an online Christian forum? Whoop-di-do. Well done good and faithful servant!
that you have fallen for what will and what has destroyed many churches .
Paula white is worse than the buddist or muslim . WHY
cause as false as those religoins are and believe me when i say they will be damned , PAULA DOES HER EVIL
USING THE VERY NAME OF JESUS CHRIST . that is the worst place to be my friend .
Worst . Too many jezebels and men of belial has led this people to their own destruction .
OH i know , i know you gonna harp on me as though i am attacking the very FLOCK OF GOD himself .
THEY AINT of GOD at all . THEY FLEECERS , FLEECERS who got rich , YET ROTTED POOR , off the backs
of those who loved and envied their lifestyles . We get exactly what we sit under .
IF folks love deceptoin then that is where they shall sit . Far too many wolves in wool these days my friend . far too many .
ANd in order to make men like me seem wicked and evil
THEY SOLD YOU ALL A BILL OF ROTTED GOODS . A basket of rotted fruit
that claims men like me who expose these wolves and thier doctrine are non loving and judgemental .
I AM just sorrowful and sad to see SO MANY have fallen for the ruse .
amigo de christo
Well-Known Member
The problem is far too many have sat under fleecers of men who got rich fleecing the flocks .
These men and women of belial , OF WHICH ARE MANY , could not defend their positoin
by doctrine and thus
any time a man like me shows up to expose them and their doctrine
THE folks who sat under them see me as a judger and hater .
THESE WOLVES cannot defend their doctrines by THE BIBLE
and thus they had to get this people infected with a lie .
And that lie implies if one actually warns against them , THEY are judgmental haters .
Sad thing is this generation is fallen for the lie .
Worse it has got too my friend . Now if one even speaks against
UNBELEIF in JESUS , EVEN THEY get seen as judgmental and hating .
Its only the ones going with the flow of the lie that get seen as loving .
Too many have fallen in love with a lie . SO few love the TRUTH anymore .
Rockerduck
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