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Big Boy Johnson

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Calvinism is in no way the foundation of Protestantism…..no more than the Catholics are the foundation of Christianity.

... and protestantism is not the foundation of Christianity

The so called "reformers" failed to simply go back to the teachings of God's Word as the early church in the Book of Acts.
 
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What do you think Jesus was doing when he confronted the religious leaders?

The idea that you don't recognize that as being active in politics is mind blowing.

For example-- King Herod. Ya know?..... the guy who built the temple?

Do you see him as a religious leader, or a political leader..... or both?
No, I'd call that church business brother, not politics.

I think I'd call King Herod a political leader, but Jesus didn't have anything to say to him that I know of, and He didn't try to rebel or take his place as king either.....John the Baptist rebuked him though, and he was the last old covenant prophet.
 
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No, I'd call that church business brother, not politics.

I think I'd call King Herod a political leader, but Jesus didn't have anything to say to him that I know of, and He didn't try to rebel or take his place as king either.....John the Baptist rebuked him though, and he was the last old covenant prophet.

Well there’s your problem. Identifying the problem is half way to solving it.

The whole temple system was political. It’s leaders and in fact the leaders of the entire nation were political appointees, and under rule of the Roman government.

When he stood up to all of that— it was political. Never did he say as you do… just let things be.
 

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What do you think Jesus was doing when he confronted the religious leaders?

It was certainly not to gather them all together to go over throw or influence the roman government.

Nothing wrong with voting, running for office, and being involved... UNTIL we see Christians overly worried and living in fear concerning the affairs of government as we are seeing today by so many who claim to be Christians.

The fearful (cowardly) shall have their part in the lake that burns with fire (Revelation 21:8)
We should be doing what Jesus did which is doing the Father's business (Luke 2:49) which for us is the great commission.

Luke 21:34
And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.

Ultimately it would be nice for this nation to return to conservative government that at least plays like they honor the US Constitution... but sadly, if Trump doesn't win in 2024 many who claim to be Christians will sink even further in to fear and anxiety as the hearts of men fail as they see the things that are coming upon the world (Luke 21:26)

If Joe Bribem wins and the liberals win a majority in both houses of Congress so they have free reign to do anything they want... will all the "Christians" lose their minds and run to the hills like cowards???

Since the majority who claim to be Christian in this nation are actually teaching false doctrine leading people away from the Lord just like the pharisees and sadducees during Jesus' ministry... don't be surprised if the destruction that came upon Israel... comes upon the United States.

To whom much is given, much is required (Luke 12:48)... this nation has dropped the ball primarily because very few Christians in the US are following the Jesus of God's Word... most are following another jesus and a different gospel that teaches the wisdom of men as though it were the wisdom of God... just like the pharisees and sadducees.
 

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It was certainly not to gather them all together to go over throw or influence the roman government.

Nothing wrong with voting, running for office, and being involved... UNTIL we see Christians overly worried and living in fear concerning the affairs of government as we are seeing today by so many who claim to be Christians.

The fearful (cowardly) shall have their part in the lake that burns with fire (Revelation 21:8)
We should be doing what Jesus did which is doing the Father's business (Luke 2:49) which for us is the great commission.

Luke 21:34
And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.

Ultimately it would be nice for this nation to return to conservative government that at least plays like they honor the US Constitution... but sadly, if Trump doesn't win in 2024 many who claim to be Christians will sink even further in to fear and anxiety as the hearts of men fail as they see the things that are coming upon the world (Luke 21:26)

If Joe Bribem wins and the liberals win a majority in both houses of Congress so they have free reign to do anything they want... will all the "Christians" lose their minds and run to the hills like cowards???

Since the majority who claim to be Christian in this nation are actually teaching false doctrine leading people away from the Lord just like the pharisees and sadducees during Jesus' ministry... don't be surprised if the destruction that came upon Israel... comes upon the United States.

To whom much is given, much is required (Luke 12:48)... this nation has dropped the ball primarily because very few Christians in the US are following the Jesus of God's Word... most are following another jesus and a different gospel that teaches the wisdom of men as though it were the wisdom of God... just like the pharisees and sadducees.

He was calling out the entire system as a sham. A scam. A charade.

Here’s what he DIDN'T do…..

Nothing
 
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They hate trump because he wont play ball with the evil that is destroying our country.
The only theocracy with a perfect man rulership happens in the mil.
Till then..Trump and maga.
Its like some people think america turning communist is better than orange man since orange man is not perfect.

It is as if people have lost all discernment
the THEY you speak of is the sheep who sit UNDER sie media who is controlling them .
But rest assured THEY as in the elites who are deceiving the entire world , LOVE TRUMP
and use HIM just like they do biden . TRUMP IS PLAYING BALL WITH THEM .
REMEMBER THE GOAL .
You see most folks are easily entertained by that which gives them pleasures and hope in this life
BUT most do not KNOW the GOAL of this wicked agenda .
ITS GOAL IS , a one world mindset , or religoin , that brings the peoples together under
what it is THEY promise them . WHICH IN TRUTH IS UNDER A WORLD GOVT
that though it appears not as tyrannical but rather always says it does as it does for sake of humanity
NOPE ITS FOR THE THEM .
TRUMP , BIDEN , OBAMA , BUSH and scores of others have all had their part in it .
THE GOAL . IF you understood what it was that is the goal , the agenda
YOU WOULD shudder in terror for folks who even trusted TRUMP and his ABRAHAM POPE ACCORDS
and his pope led religous tolerance act . WE BEING DUPED DUDE .
 
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itS A DOG AND PONY SHOW IN A THREE RING CIRCUS is all this whole thing is now .
FOR THE NATIONS , THE CHURCHES , HAVE SHOWN GOD THE SPINE
AND NOW HAVE BEEN DELIVERED UNTO THE DELUSION WHICH WILL GATHER THE BAD VESSELS INTO
THE NET OF ITS DECEPTOIN . ALL THEM FISHES GET BURNED AT THIER END .
 
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Well there’s your problem. Identifying the problem is half way to solving it.

The whole temple system was political. It’s leaders and in fact the leaders of the entire nation were political appointees, and under rule of the Roman government.

When he stood up to all of that— it was political. Never did he say as you do… just let things be.
the whole problem was the temple was political , in that you said TRULY .
THE whole problem is CHRISTENDOM HAS ALSO BECOME POLITICAL . BINGO AND BULLSEYE .
YOU cannot tie that which is heavenly and merge it with STATE OR WORLD . ALWAYS IT RESULTS
in the sell out of GOD and OF TRUTH and the honor and hope IN MEN , IN POLITICS .
NOW GO YE AND LEARN what that means and PLEASE DO SO QUICKLY .
 

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the whole problem was the temple was political , in that you said TRULY .
THE whole problem is CHRISTENDOM HAS ALSO BECOME POLITICAL . BINGO AND BULLSEYE .
YOU cannot tie that which is heavenly and merge it with STATE OR WORLD . ALWAYS IT RESULTS
in the sell out of GOD and OF TRUTH and the honor and hope IN MEN , IN POLITICS .
NOW GO YE AND LEARN what that means and PLEASE DO SO QUICKLY .
Your post is Bingo and bullseye brother. Amen! :vgood: :Bestest:
 
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the whole problem was the temple was political , in that you said TRULY .
THE whole problem is CHRISTENDOM HAS ALSO BECOME POLITICAL . BINGO AND BULLSEYE .
YOU cannot tie that which is heavenly and merge it with STATE OR WORLD . ALWAYS IT RESULTS
in the sell out of GOD and OF TRUTH and the honor and hope IN MEN , IN POLITICS .
NOW GO YE AND LEARN what that means and PLEASE DO SO QUICKLY .

It’s ignorance.

Our example is Jesus Christ. Did he stand up against it, or do as you advocate— and do nothing?
 
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Rome and nar , ARE THE OLD TEMPLE which though it was destroyed has come forth again
WITHIN and from TOP DOWN unto the peoples .
THERE IS NUTTIG NEW UNDER THE SUN my friends .
THE RCC was and is UNDER the same spirit that too destroyed jerusalem
SIE MUTTER of ALL WHORES AND HARLOTS has not been at rest . SHE was reborn within CHRISTENDOM
as she decieved the jews under the old , so too she has become the queen who sits over christendom and now decieves the peoples .
As it was warned in the days of MOSES that the jews would fall away
SO too was it warned in the days of CHRIST and of the apostels that a falling away would occur .
THE HARLOT rests not . SHE who decieves and decieved the jews , IS SHE WHO HAS DECIEVED much all of CHRISTENDOM NOW
and now merges them all wtih all other religoins to be ONE .
 

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It’s ignorance.

Our example is Jesus Christ. Did he stand up against it, or do as you advocate— and do nothing?
I DO stand against it . ITS you who hope in it . but go ye and learn what that means .
I spend counteless hours warning against this religious system , of both trump and biden have their part in its work as well .
YOU DO NOTHING to expose the harlot , you do nothing to expose the inclusive lie
You do nothing to expose the abraham pope accords , rather you SIT UNDER and HOPE IN A MAN
who DID THE BIDDING OF THE VATICAN . WHOSE DOING NOTHING
whose the one not exposing . YOU MY FRIEND . rather you are trying to get us to hope in and vote for a man
that while he does much to speak against the one world govt and etc
DOES ITS BIDDING at the same time . OOOPS . not looking good chief .
 

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most folks spend countless hours debating politics , putting hopes into men
YET DO NOTHING to spread the gospel
YET DO NOTHING to expose the lies and speak the truth .
SOUNDS TO ME like we got us a lot of DISTRACTED FOLKS who have no hope but to hope in men
NOT ME . THE COST IS THE COST . ITS TIME WE POINTED TO and POINT TO CHRIST and all bibical doctrine .
TO THE ONE HOPE THERE IS , TO THE ONE CITY WHICH WILL NEVER BE MOVED . TIME TO PUT THE HOPE IN CHRIST AGAIN
and preach the truth .
 

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most folks spend countless hours debating politics , putting hopes into men
YET DO NOTHING to spread the gospel
YET DO NOTHING to expose the lies and speak the truth .
SOUNDS TO ME like we got us a lot of DISTRACTED FOLKS who have no hope but to hope in men
NOT ME . THE COST IS THE COST . ITS TIME WE POINTED TO and POINT TO CHRIST and all bibical doctrine .
TO THE ONE HOPE THERE IS , TO THE ONE CITY WHICH WILL NEVER BE MOVED . TIME TO PUT THE HOPE IN CHRIST AGAIN
and preach the truth .

There is so much judgment of other people, yet you can do no wrong. Others have called you out on this before. You need to take heed and remove the log from your eye before you try to remove the speck from others.
 
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I DO stand against it . ITS you who hope in it . but go ye and learn what that means .
I spend counteless hours warning against this religious system , of both trump and biden have their part in its work as well .
YOU DO NOTHING to expose the harlot , you do nothing to expose the inclusive lie
You do nothing to expose the abraham pope accords , rather you SIT UNDER and HOPE IN A MAN
who DID THE BIDDING OF THE VATICAN . WHOSE DOING NOTHING
whose the one not exposing . YOU MY FRIEND . rather you are trying to get us to hope in and vote for a man
that while he does much to speak against the one world govt and etc
DOES ITS BIDDING at the same time . OOOPS . not looking good chief .

You complain about it, but by your own admission— opt out and do nothing about it beyond that complaining.

You suppose you are standing against “The Vatican” but by your political complacency you ensure that we get a Catholic President.

Nicely done.
 

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You complain about it, but by your own admission— opt out and do nothing about it beyond that complaining.

You suppose you are standing against “The Vatican” but by your political complacency you ensure that we get a Catholic President.

Nicely done.
TRUMP may as well have been A CATHOLIC PRESDIENT . THE DUDE helped to usher in the abraham POPE accords
as wellas the POPE LED RELIGOUS TOLERANCE ACT .
THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE between biden and trump in that arena . THEY ALL DOING THE WILL OF THE VATICAN .
ONLY you cannot see this .
 
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As Big Boy Johnson has asked several times....where are those scrips that command believers to be involved in politics?
And I’ve answered it several times …. The ADA recommends we go to the dentist twice a year. Even though this is not in Scripture, the ADA still recommends this.

Said differently, where there is freedom, there is the Spirit of the lord. You’ve turned freedom into slavery. A free person may do all but what is prohibited. Where does Scripture prohibit fully participating in the duties and obligations of society?

The logic of your question has flipped who has the burden of proof. You are claiming to be a Christian means one is prohibited from fully participating in the political process. There simply is no such prohibition in Scripture.

America’s Founding Fathers were pious Christians AND fully participated in the political process to the point of revolution. Some in Christiandom hold this as anathema.
 

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There is so much judgment of other people, yet you can do no wrong. Others have called you out on this before. You need to take heed and remove the log from your eye before you try to remove the speck from others.
you will all soon merge as one . the path both you and they are on , IT WONT END WELL my friend .
The realms of men are OWNDED by the WHORE NOW . and both sides do its bidding .
 
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