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Who was the last Republican presidential candidate you voted for?
I almost, almost, voted for Bush, I've voted for and worked for our local sheriff who was a decent diehard Republican and other local officials., so touche to you
 

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I almost, almost, voted for Bush, I've voted for and worked for our local sheriff who was a decent diehard Republican and other local officials., so touche to you

So that would be zero— to honestly answer my question.

Mr Unaffiliated-Always lol.
 
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You are giving your Opinion of your Belief, regarding some unknown 2nd- 3rd- parties ambiguous claims.
That is your opinion. I don't make things up. And I BELIEVE GOD over man. He is the one who revealed the truth to me.
 

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January 11, 2024 The Iowa Republican Caucus.

Iowa changed their registration rules so that any registered person of any party could come in the day before the Caucus and change their registration status.
A lot of democrats that showed up to register were asked why and who were they voting for?
A lot of democrats believed that Joe Biden wasn't going to make the cut, and seeing there are no others allowed on the debate forum,
they decided to register for the Caucus the next day for.... wait for it.... Nikki Haley

The media was gushing how she was going to win the Iowa Caucus. Nikki has this in the bag!

But something happened the next day that not many people were expecting.
The weather dropped to below 40 degrees and a storm unlike any other had made it's way to Iowa.

Why didn't Nikki win the votes?
Because the democrats were not as committed to their "deception" , then the republicans were to the "Truth" .



So, as a Democrat, do you identify with the Democrat's party deceptive tactics?
If not, you should consider changing your party,
or,
voting in people that don't agee the party tactics,
or,
run yourself.

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January 11, 2024 The Iowa Republican Caucus.

Iowa changed their registration rules so that any registered person of any party could come in the day before the Caucus and change their registration status.
A lot of democrats that showed up to register were asked why and who were they voting for?
A lot of democrats believed that Joe Biden wasn't going to make the cut, and seeing there are no others allowed on the debate forum,
they decided to register for the Caucus the next day for.... wait for it.... Nikki Haley

The media was gushing how she was going to win the Iowa Caucus. Nikki has this in the bag!

But something happened the next day that not many people were expecting.
The weather dropped to below 40 degrees and a storm unlike any other had made it's way to Iowa.

Why didn't Nikki win the votes?
Because the democrats were not as committed to their "deception" , then the republicans were to the "Truth" .



So, as a Democrat, do you identify with the Democrat's party deceptive tactics?
If not, you should consider changing your party,
or,
voting in people that don't agee the party tactics,
or,
run yourself.

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And the bigger question is:
Did Nikki know?

Think about it.
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Arabella Advisors​


American for-profit consulting company
arabellaadvisors.com
Arabella Advisors is a Washington, D.C.-based for-profit consulting company that advises left-leaning donors and nonprofits about where to give money and serves as the hub of a politically liberal "dark money" network. It was founded by former Clinton administration appointee Eric Kessler. The Arabella network spent nearly $1.2 billion in 2020 and raised $1.35 billion in 2022. Wikipedia
FounderEric Kessler
TypeCertified B Corporation
PurposePhilanthropic consulting

Nikki Haley’s New Hampshire director lobbied for dark money giant that helped Biden win 2020 election​


ByGabe Kaminsky

EXCLUSIVE — The New Hampshire state director for Republican Nikki Haley’s presidential campaign lobbied in 2020 for a Democratic dark money organization that spent millions of dollars that year willing Joe Biden to the White House, among other left-wing groups, documents show.

Tyler Clark, who became Haley’s 2024 state director for the Granite State late last year, is listed on lobbying disclosures filed in New Hampshire as working in 2020 on behalf of Sixteen Thirty Fund, a nonprofit group managed by Arabella Advisors, the largest liberal dark money network in the United States. Sixteen Thirty Fund, which is being investigated by the Washington, D.C., attorney general’s office over financial mismanagement allegations along with the broader Arabella network, doled out more than $410 million in 2020 to boost Democrats and help unseat former President Donald Trump, all thanks to billionaire donors such as George Soros.
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Nikki Haley doesn't want to serve the people. She wants to serve the globalist agenda using your tax dollars to fund it.

Research, research, research...
Do your own research and find out who these people are, who funds them, and where their loyalties lie.
If they aren't for We the People, then We the People aren't for them,

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Top 10 Reasons to Vote for Ron DeSantis, Not Donald Trump or Nikki Haley by Wayne Grudem
"Wayne A. Grudem (born 1948) is a New Testament scholar turned theologian,[1] seminary professor, and author.[2] He co-founded the Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood and served as the general editor of the ESV Study Bible." Wikipedia

"The more I learn about Ron DeSantis, the more I believe he is a much stronger candidate than Nikki Haley or Donald Trump. In fact, I believe he is the strongest candidate for president that Republicans have had in decades—no matter what happens in Iowa.

Here are ten reasons why I believe DeSantis is the strongest candidate in the race by far:"


This is truly a powerful article in support for DeSantis and against Trump!
I prefer DeSantis, But I think the Dems hurt their own cause when they attacked a former president with lawsuit after lawsuit. I believe the people are saying enough is enough.

As for Hailey. The votes she got in Iowa was from dems and independents.. If anyone thinks she will have a chance they are crazy. She will not get those votes in a presidential run. Plus she is to pro government.
 
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I was saved 45 years ago

I have never allowed myself to be put in a box , I vote as led by the Holy Spirit, I have no allegiance to anything or anybody but my God, I support nothing or anyone that is outside the will of God. Do some research there is a small percentage of white so call Christians that support Trump, including Aryans, Proud Boys and so on..... I do agree with you that there are no white/black Christians, especially since we are all of one race, the human race, that came from Adam, that is why I make it plain Evangelical Christians as a whole do NOT support this idiot, just a SMALL group WHO HAPPEN TO BE MAJORITY WHITE,

That's truth and do not care who you are
If they support the idiot we have in office and his left wing ideology that is taking this nation to the pits of hell. And would rather have him that trump

then something is majorly wrong

why did you not respond to my points? Is it because you know deep downside I am right?
 

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A self-declared “centrist” who has voted for Democrats her entire life.
I guess this would mean that she voted for Clinton. Who had sex with his interns. And who is very hard at keeping the Epstine files closed. For it would out him as a child predator.
 

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If they support the idiot we have in office and his left wing ideology that is taking this nation to the pits of hell. And would rather have him that trump

then something is majorly wrong

why did you not respond to my points? Is it because you know deep downside I am right?
EG, I apologize for overlooking your points. I've been doing a lot of posting and spending time on writing each one the best that I know how.

NO, DEFINITELY NOT! I would never consider voting for a liberal Democrat because they have become de facto communists, even though they do not carry Party membership cards. I do hold to biblical standards. My choice has been and still is my Governor, Ron DeSantis. He has been a great governor and a good man. Yet, it seems Trump will be the nominee. Admittedly, this puts me in a difficult situation because I have come to dislike the idea of voting for the lesser of two evils.

If it turns out Trump against any Democrat, my hope is that Sen. Joe Manchin of my home State WV runs as 3rd Party. If you read about him on Wikipedia, you'll see he is a moderate Democrat who is more like Democrats of the past. Keep in mind, my first vote for President was for Sen. Barry Goldwater in 1964. :) I could vote for Manchin if I cannot vote for DeSantis. Even in my own household we do not agree on this topic, and it became so heated we had to set it aside as a topic of discussion. :)

I know that in God's plan, whoever ends up in the White House, will be according to His decree. God would have a purpose for letting a leftist win the White House. I am convinced that the USA is under the severe judgment of God and I do not see a repentance in the future. I watched a movie last night and was angrily shocked! The name Jesus Christ was paired with the vile "f" word. It made my skin crawl! So, I guess from now on I'll have to restrict my movies to those pre-1950! Maybe TCM is the answer and that is free.

I hope this clarifies my position.
 

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I like Ron DeSantis. He is a good Governor for the state of Florida.
But looking back on history, DeSantis never would of been governor if Trump hadn't endorsed him.
And once he got into that office DeSantis went right after Disney.
But for some strange reason DeSantis wasn't dragged through the mud .. that much.
Yes they took him to court over whether Disney should have it's own government within itself, pay taxes for the land it was on,
and even went after him for so-called book banning, which was the intention of keeping pornographic images out of the classrooms.
You can't even by a Playboy or a Hustler unless your 18. And the graphics in these "children's books" pictures of anal sex and falatio...
nope. That should be banned in all classrooms.
I seen these books.. they are pornographic XXX.

But we see what the establishment is doing to Trump. They trying to chew him alive.
But DeSantis, somehow he gets elevated to run for President without much opposition and planty of funding.
Makes one wonder if what Trump calls him DeSanctimonious isn't true.

Definition of sanctimonious as in pious formal + disapproving pretending to be morally better than other people sanctimonious politicians A sanctimonious speech from someone who refused to acknowledge his own past failings.

What is the history of Ron DeSantis. I never did a research on him.

Governorship has no term limits. Why would you give up a possible lifelong position in exchange for an 8 year one. Which really has more limited power looking at the whole resposibilty comparing governor to president.
DeSantis can do more for his State as Governor than he can for the country as a whole.
Governors have the power to dictate as we saw during the covif lockdowns and protests and riots.

Why would he want to give up what he already has?
Looking at his resume according to wkipedia it's pretty sparkly.
Only one thing I found was somewhat condemning in that he oversaw force feeding prisoners while he worked at Gitmo.

In the spring of 2006, DeSantis arrived at Joint Task Force Guantanamo (JTF-GTMO), working with detainees at the Guantanamo Bay detention camp.[30][31][32] The publicly released records of his service in the Navy were redacted, with the Navy citing a personal-privacy exception to the Freedom of Information Act.[33] Mansur Ahmad Saad al-Dayfi, who was held at Guantanamo, alleged in 2022 that DeSantis oversaw force-feeding detainees[34][35][36][37][32] and DeSantis acknowledged that he advised the commander of the base about the use of force feeding.[38]


Other than that...too good to be true?

My mistake Governors do have term limits.. learn something new everyday..
All U.S. governors serve four-year terms except those in New Hampshire and Vermont, who serve two-year terms.
But not all states have the same term limits.

And there are no limits in the State of Florida on how many times one can run.

How long can a Florida governor serve?​

A Florida governor can serve two consecutive four-year terms before having to step down for the next election.

There is no lifetime limit on the number of times a candidate may be elected.

The governor is elected by popular election every four years, according to the state constitution.

So why give up a good thing to run for an office you can only serve, if your lucky for 8 years.

We see here that the Republican "establishment" backs DeSantis:

DeSantis became governor of Florida on January 8, 2019.[141] He has generally governed as a conservative.[142] On January 11, three days after taking office, he posthumously pardoned the Groveland Four, a group of black men falsely convicted of rape in 1949.[143][144] The same day,[145] he officially suspended Broward County sheriff Scott Israel, ostensibly for his responses to the mass shootings at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, appointing Gregory Tony to replace him.[146][147] In its 2021 session, the Florida legislature passed DeSantis's top priorities.[148][149] During his tenure, the Republican-dominated Florida Legislature enacted much of DeSantis's legislative agenda, often on rapid timelines.[150][151] Maximizing the power of the governor's office, DeSantis exerted pressure on Republican legislative leaders.[152][153]

I wonder how much exertion was needed, if they planned to run DeSantis against Trump in the 2024 election.

Just thinking...

Who is funding his campaign and who of the billionaires are funding his Pac?
I haven't looked and it's time for breakfast.
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EG, I apologize for overlooking your points. I've been doing a lot of posting and spending time on writing each one the best that I know how.

NO, DEFINITELY NOT! I would never consider voting for a liberal Democrat because they have become de facto communists, even though they do not carry Party membership cards. I do hold to biblical standards. My choice has been and still is my Governor, Ron DeSantis. He has been a great governor and a good man. Yet, it seems Trump will be the nominee. Admittedly, this puts me in a difficult situation because I have come to dislike the idea of voting for the lesser of two evils.

If it turns out Trump against any Democrat, my hope is that Sen. Joe Manchin of my home State WV runs as 3rd Party. If you read about him on Wikipedia, you'll see he is a moderate Democrat who is more like Democrats of the past. Keep in mind, my first vote for President was for Sen. Barry Goldwater in 1964. :) I could vote for Manchin if I cannot vote for DeSantis. Even in my own household we do not agree on this topic, and it became so heated we had to set it aside as a topic of discussion. :)

I know that in God's plan, whoever ends up in the White House, will be according to His decree. God would have a purpose for letting a leftist win the White House. I am convinced that the USA is under the severe judgment of God and I do not see a repentance in the future. I watched a movie last night and was angrily shocked! The name Jesus Christ was paired with the vile "f" word. It made my skin crawl! So, I guess from now on I'll have to restrict my movies to those pre-1950! Maybe TCM is the answer and that is free.

I hope this clarifies my position.
The problem with this is. If people vote independent their vote is wasted. I do believe this is how Clinton gained office when he beat Bush Sr. And it could gain us another 4 years of Biden/Harris. And that to me is the scariest thing I could ever imagine.. Because it would assure Harris wil be president before that term is up. And is anyone is more evil than Biden, it is Harris
 
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The problem with this is. If people vote independent their vote is wasted. I do believe this is how Clinton gained office when he beat Bush Sr. And it could gain us another 4 years of Biden/Harris. And that to me is the scariest thing I could ever imagine.. Because it would assure Harris wil be president before that term is up. And is anyone is more evil than Biden, it is Harris
I know that in the past, voting for a 3rd Party was considered a wasted vote. I'm not so sure that Sen. Manchin would be a wasted vote. I have voted 3rd party in the past, mainly as protest, but with Sen. Manchin, when the other two choices are Biden and Trump, I suspect that 3rd Party may be different. Since the leftists have pretty much taken over the Democrat Party, I suspect any Democrat they would run in place of Biden would be just as bad.