Trump ~ guilty

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Rella ~ I am a woman

Well-Known Member
Jul 27, 2023
1,972
1,117
113
77
SW PA
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
How was it rigged? I know how one might rig a horse race. I haven't a clue how one would have rigged this trial. Please educate me. Tell me how one might be able to pull off such a rigging -- and then share the evidence you have that it actually happened here.
Lets start with the gag order.

Donald Trump was gagged to the point that he could make no comment about the witnesses or jurors or anyone and when he did a hand ful of times he had to fork over 1K each time.

He could not talk about Cohen, yet Cohen was free to rip Trump apart every hight on
his social medias and anyone who would listen.
Trump could say nothing even though Cohen was selling tee shirts that showed Trump walking into jail when found guilty

How about the judge denying the former FEC chairman to testify regarding election interference. Or the judge stopping another witness for Trump.

I have been listening to 2 hours of attorneys saying how mystified they are that the jury instructions were not complete. They were slanted.

And paying hush money is not a crime.

And who wouldnt want to shut her up when she was on the stand giving a detailed account of how porn sex is real,

Or Cohen admitting to stealing 60K from Trump yet is not to be charged for that.

Ya should have listened....

There is too much to list here.
 

Cassandra

Well-Known Member
Sep 24, 2021
2,859
3,241
113
Midwest
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Well, I've been a lawyer for 45 years. I've tried lots of jury cases. A lot more than Alan has. I respect him as a constitutional law scholar -- but whether this trial was rigged is a question of fact, not of law. You think it was rigged. (Alan doesn't; at least he hasn't said so publicly.) Tell me why you think so.
It's because it is trump. Had it been anyone else who was a democrat, it--the verdict-- would've been fine.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MA2444

BlessedPeace

Well-Known Member
Aug 22, 2023
5,917
4,613
113
Bend
youtube.com
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
:fearscream::cry: An illegal trial. Charges that were false,or beyond statute of limitations. A proven corrupt judge that had to recuse himself under the rules bit didn't. A lying porn hooker,proven perjurer.

If this is let to stand on appeal we should all take heed. Our justice system is dead.


How much do you think that jury cost Biden,BHO,HRC, and Soros? Pooling their $ together and all.
 

marks

Well-Known Member
Oct 10, 2018
36,679
24,018
113
SoCal USA
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
We can certainly help those who are in need as we encounter them personally, (like the Good Samaritan) but hoping that political powers will take care of them if we vote them in, is a pipe dream….when have they ever done so? They are too busy feathering their own nests to worry about yours
All you need to do is compare America during President Trump's administration, to under Biden's regime. And there's no need to make this something it's not, like, I think President Trump is some kind of messiah or something.

Just step back, take a look around, and see which one improved the USA, and which one is destroying the USA.

Much love!
 

RedFan

Well-Known Member
May 15, 2022
2,871
1,258
113
70
New Hampshire
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Lets start with the gag order.

Donald Trump was gagged to the point that he could make no comment about the witnesses or jurors or anyone and when he did a hand ful of times he had to fork over 1K each time.
Agreed, the gag order should not have been issued. But it had no effect on the evidence, or on the jury. No "rigging" here.
How about the judge denying the former FEC chairman to testify regarding election interference.
Trump's attorneys revealed they wanted to call him as an expert witness to testify on federal election law. Experts cannot testify on what the law is. That is for the judge to determine, not the jury. Such testimony was not admissible under settled New York law. No "rigging" here.

I have been listening to 2 hours of attorneys saying how mystified they are that the jury instructions were not complete.
Point to an instruction the Trump team sought which was not given, please. (And maybe you should stop watching Fox news?)

And paying hush money is not a crime.
Agreed. But Trump wasn't convicted of paying hush money. Haven't you read the indictment or the jury instructions?
And who wouldnt want to shut her up when she was on the stand giving a detailed account of how porn sex is real,
Actually, the Judge did cut her off at one point. But it was up to Trump's lawyers, if they wanted "to shut her up when she was on the stand giving a detailed account of how porn sex is real," to make a contemporaneous objection. They didn't. No "rigging" here.

Or Cohen admitting to stealing 60K from Trump yet is not to be charged for that.
The jury had no clue one way or the other on that fact. No "rigging" here.

Ya should have listened....
Oh, I listened all right. Intensely. Frankly, I am surprised by the verdict. But a "rigged" verdict? That's total BS.
 
Last edited:

APAK

Well-Known Member
Feb 4, 2018
10,356
10,827
113
Florida
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Heed the very great potential of near-future with a few more false flags, another deliberate food and supply chain and inventory constriction with more severe lockdowns...it's coming....prepare
 
  • Like
Reactions: Michiah-Imla

Aunty Jane

Well-Known Member
Sep 16, 2021
7,010
3,838
113
Sydney
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
All you need to do is compare America during President Trump's administration, to under Biden's regime. And there's no need to make this something it's not, like, I think President Trump is some kind of messiah or something.

Just step back, take a look around, and see which one improved the USA, and which one is destroying the USA.
No matter who did what…..God is allowing it all to happen to prove that humans are really hopeless at ruling themselves…..he has allowed them to try every conceivable form of government under the influence of the god they chose to obey…..and they have all failed miserably…why? Because even when they claim to be the ‘good guys’, their “goodness” is limited to a great degree by the people themselves, especially in a democracy…….these rulerships might sound good on paper but in operation, the human flaws of our sinful nature manifest themselves…..and as we know, “power corrupts”……and humanity being so easily manipulated and whipped up over political and religious issues…..what lasting good can ever result? (Prov 29:2)

All humans die and if by chance a good ruler was in power for a while….the Psalmist offered this counsel….

Paslm 146: 3-5….
3 Do not put your trust in princes
Nor in a son of man, who cannot bring salvation.
4 His spirit goes out, he returns to the ground;
On that very day his thoughts perish.

5 Happy is the one who has the God of Jacob as his helper,
Whose hope is in Jehovah his God”.

If we simply trust that God knows what he is doing, we never need to concern ourselves with this world’s political affairs. No nation on earth has a perfect government….which is why Jesus taught us to pray for the perfect one to “come” and to make sure that God’s will is done “on earth as it is in heaven”. God’s Kingdom will “come”….ready or not, and it will accomplish what no humans could ever do by themselves. (Daniel 2:44; Rev 21:2-4)

Do you ever wonder why power corrupts human rulers? Even some who were anointed kings of Israel turned feral and became corrupt. God told Israel that having a human king would not benefit them, but they insisted so he granted their request…only to experience the woes that flawed human rulership brought with them.

If they are blind guides, then why expect them not to keep falling into the same pit, time after time?
What is the definition of insanity? Isn’t it doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result? History keeps right on repeating because we never learn from the lessons of the past.

Democracy is all but dead…(another one bites the dust) and the next form of government the Bible tells us, is totalitarianism…..which will be introduced under the guise of freedom. Nothing can stop this…..so will we “let go and let God”? Or will we involve ourselves in the futile things that Jesus told us not to? We can be law abiding citizens of our nation and be politically neutral, because we have our citizenship in God’s kingdom….and trust that God has everything in hand according to his will and purpose…..we are thus, never a threat to anyone or any nation.
 
Last edited:

MA2444

Well-Known Member
Jan 9, 2024
3,840
1,986
113
62
Columbus Ohio
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Over 90% of Misdemeanors are dismissed in NY. But not for Donald.
Hunter didnt even get any charges.
Biden hasn't been charged.
HRC has never been charged.
Donald was filled up with charges?

No that doesnt sound soundlike Election Interferance to me, Lol!
Our Justice system is absolutely broken now, corrupt beyond belief.

But the good news is...Our God is bigger than them all!
I bet Donald still wins the Presidency and he finishes cleaning the swamp.
Biden, Biden, HRC, Obama, Pelosi, all of them to be brought to Justice and charged and Jailed!

Pray for Donald Trump safety and that his Family remains safe also.
Because that's the next step to keep him out of the election I think. They may try to kill President Trump. So the man needs our Prayers.

We're all supposed to pray for our leaders regardless of their party, remember that! It is God that puts kiings into power and God that takes them away. We are to pray for them and give unto ceaser what is ceasers.
 

mailmandan

Well-Known Member
Feb 24, 2020
5,372
5,833
113
The Midwest
Faith
Christian
Country
United States

Sen. Tuberville wrote, “It’s a very dark day in American history. This ‘trial’ was a political witch hunt from the start. The fact that the Biden campaign staged a press conference outside the court tells you everything you need to know. Liberal activist Alvin Bragg and Biden-donor Judge Merchan had a shared goal: to put President Trump behind bars.

Whether you consider the lopsided jury, the gag order issued to silence only President Trump, the prosecution’s failure to outline the alleged underlying crimes, or the lack of a unanimous verdict required for conviction, this trial was a complete joke and a massive misuse of taxpayer dollars.”

“This is pure election interference and the American people will see through it. We can’t have a two-tier justice system. If we don’t return to our Constitution, which guarantees every U.S. citizen the right to free speech and the right to a fair trial by an impartial jury, we are no better than Venezuela or communist China.”
 

face2face

Well-Known Member
Jun 22, 2015
8,243
1,202
113
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
The whole point why Christians vote is to put an end to worldliness like banning Christian preaching and murdering babies, and gay marriage etc.

You JW's got it backwards
To vote is to presume you know God's Will - it's an arrogant position, especially when you know God puts in power the basest of men? This world has been overcome!

The sentence is by the decree of the watchers, the decision by the word of the holy ones, to the end that the living may know that the Most High rules the kingdom of men and gives it to whom he will and sets over it the lowliest of men.’ Dan 4:17

You either believe or you do not!

F2F
 

BlessedPeace

Well-Known Member
Aug 22, 2023
5,917
4,613
113
Bend
youtube.com
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
To vote is to presume you know God's Will - it's an arrogant position, especially when you know God puts in power the basest of men? This world has been overcome!

The sentence is by the decree of the watchers, the decision by the word of the holy ones, to the end that the living may know that the Most High rules the kingdom of men and gives it to whom he will and sets over it the lowliest of men.’ Dan 4:17

You either believe or you do not!

F2F
Well, in America the vote in this Republic is by a Democratic process.

Which means, mortals cast their vote to show who we trust in leadership.

God knows this.

Nonsensical rhetoric doesn't change that reality.

Until God comes down and publicly seats our leaders it's the best we have.
 
  • Wow
Reactions: Wrangler