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The names of cities on Earth are not translated. On all maps of the world the name of the city will be written - Yahweh Shammah. In this name there is the sacred Name of God - Tetragrammaton. This will be the return of the forbidden Name of God among people. Nowadays Jews do not use this name.

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True or not? God is Jesus, but Jesus isn’t God.

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God Is SPIRIT.
God IS INVISIBLE to manKIND’S eyes
Gods VOICE is UNHEARD to ManKIND’S ears.

Dilemma from the get go…of manKIND
God “HAS” Spirits, that which Do different things, but Which are derived From and ARE Gods ONE Same SPIRIT, ONE SAME God.

The Totality of Gods SPIRIT, (This power, that Power, or otherwise The POWER /Light TO Do this or that)…Is Gods Glory…
Which God “Gives to no one”
Meaning..
while God Gives A particular Power To A Being, to Do This or that…
God DOES NOT “give” All of His Power…(His Light, His Glory) to an other.

Angels ARE “created” Spirits…They being spirits, CAN see one another, and see God.
They are “given” powers from God to Do particular limited “things”.

Angels Have “FREEWILL”…to use their Powers “for Good, as God desired…or NOT, as “they freely choose”…
Not a “surprise” To God, what each Angel chooses.

ManKind is also “given” powers From God…
ManKind ALSO, has “FREEWILL” to use their Powers “for Good, as God desired….or NOT, as “they freely choose”…
Not a “surprise” To God, what each man chooses.

For Every Choice a man makes, God has expressly Revealed the “Consequence expectation” for their Choices.

God, in His Supreme perfection, wisdom and efficiency…Has “prepared”, A Place …according to each mans FREEWILL choices…that FOREVER They be… WITH or WITHOUT God.

From the Beginning…of ManKind…God has “SENT” TO Mankind…”THIS part”, “THAT part”…of His Spirit TO ManKind…
(And For centuries God has and continues…to Send His “holy Angel Servants unto men…
And AT ANY Time …Holy and Fallen Angels Can “Appear in The Likeness AS a human…(unbeknownst) to the human, they are communicating with AN Angel.

God certainly Can, Has, Given Angels Names, particular Powers. Described their Status of Great power, and Greater Powers, (their “talents”…so to speak).
(For example..warrior, head warrior, musical talent, holy, fallen, etc.)

When God sent Forth out from God…a “particular” “Part” of His Spirit to Earth…in a Body God Prepared…
God Chose His Name, Titles, Revealed His Intents, WAYS and Means…God sent THIS Spirit of God and Body…TO Serve God…BY, Him “Serving manKIND,,,precisely According TO Gods GOODNESS and RIGHTEOUSNESS.”


Now THIS “prepared Body”… was Revealed to manKind…AS…
A babe, a male child, legal son of a faithful virgin Jewish female and son of a Jewish man of the direct line descendent OF the House OF king David (and his Everlasting Throne that which God established and Appointed king David)…2 Sam 7;16
which ONLY a direct Legal descendant of king David Can Lawfully Occupy his Everlasting Throne.

Jesus’ birth, babe, is note-worthy as a handful of shepherds and kings from the East…were on the wise…and went into Bethlehem…Looking For and Inquiring About Him.

Not NEWS…as Scripture Reveals…He was Sent….in the Manner of A HUMBLE Fashion.

While His Birth … sparked INTEREST…even Fears…(among the Current Persons in governing positions)…His “child-hood”…appears as Not Particularly spectacular.
(likely, wet his pants, whined, cried, played, teased, helped, was curious …like any child of that era).

Once (reaching, near age Thirty)…(beginning HiS Purpose…to Minister)…Something Exponentially “changed”…and “the change”… step by step , bit by bit was Revealed.

POINT BEING
His “humbleness”…(of how He WAS SENT…as A Babe, “IN” body God Prepared…)
Transformed into An Adult… Full of Confidence…Knowledge, Truth, Understanding and Power…
He was Astonishing to the common folks…and the governing Politicos and Religious leaders…( making many of them Fearful their own “status” / “positions”.. might fall to the wayside (along with their comfy luxury accustomed lifestyle).

POINT Being … what men SHOULD have Discovered, through the Revealed Scriptural TEXTS…
IS that a part of Gods Spirit WAS SENT TO EARTH…
And WHILE ON EARTH…Jesus Received more of Gods Spirit …and God Revealed…
Jesus HAD, IS the Totality of Gods Spirit, Gods Truth, Gods Power, Gods Glory…
(Which Remember God “Gives to No One”)

Jesus could ONLY “Receive”.. (while ON EARTH…) that which WAS Already HIS!”

Jesus was Revealed…He IS Gods Word…also Jesus was Revealed (The Knowledge) He IS Gods “LIGHT”…
However DID Human men ON EARTH… See …His Body of LIGHT…or ONLY see the Body God prepared FOR Him for when He would come into the (this) world?

What did Jesus Say to God IN Heaven, as Jesus was “returning to Heaven”, (“His Kingdom), from whence He came?

* John 18:
[36] Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world:…
^ Knowledge Jesus Has A Kingdom!

* Jesus Said…as He was Returning to Heaven, His Kingdom…
John 17:
[5] And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

The Glory, the Power of Gods Light …that Jesus HAD….When?
Before the World WAS!

Remember…SAUL /Paul got A quick “Taste” of Gods LIGHT…and it Blinded Him?

God gives manKind…tidbits…of His Presence…
Ever hear the Roar of Thunder?
Ever see the blinding LIGHT of a “close encounter” of A LIGHTENING Strike?
You are experiencing Gods Presence.

WHO,,, aside From God Himself…IS PURE Light AND Existed BEFORE….THE Heavens And This World WAS?

Can God NOT Appear to Men…in a likeness/ Manner Human men Can See….but humm…God Gave Power To His Created Angels To Do That?

Can God NOT Call Himself by multiple names, titles, descriptions …but humm…
Created humans can do that?

Can God NOT be in multiple Places at Once?

Jesus is Gods Word in a Flesh Body God Prepared…
Christ IS the SEED of God, the Wisdom of God and the Power OF God…with authority to Forgive and Transform “willing” “electing /choosing” human men into eternal Living Beings.

Remember God “GIVES HIS Glory / Light to no one…but if you are willing…He will give a man the “Reflection of His Light”…
Which we CAN..see and marvel at our MOON which has NO light of its OWN…yet we continue to repeatedly…see the SUN Light Reflect its light on the moon…
And the offering from God is For a man to accept Gods Offering For the SON to reflect His Light upon and in a man.

Not “Ripley’s”… but every individual human earthly terrestrial man…can believe it or Not.

God and Jesus are One. Just as Jesus Said…
Jesus IS the Christ Just as God Said…

I Trust God is The Expert on WHO He IS…which does NOT Exclude The Name ABOVE All Names Jesus.

Glory to God,
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Jesus is God, but He is not the Father. Think of it like this: Which is the real me? Is it my body? Or is it my mind/intellect. Or perhaps it's my spirit/soul. Or is it all three. Yes, it is all three. But my soul is not my body, and my intellect is not my body etc . . . . But they are all me. That's what God is like. Father, Son and Holy Spirit. All are God but the Son is not the Father etc . . . . . Hope that helps.
 

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I hope it's ok to ask; is English your first language? If not, how did you learn it, please?
I don't speak English at all. I know maybe a couple of hundred words, but I have trouble constructing the simplest phrases. Google has a pretty good translation now. I have to replace individual words, checking with the KJV. I check the quality of the translation by doing a reverse translation in another translator window.
 
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I don't speak English at all. I know maybe a couple of hundred words, but I have trouble constructing the simplest phrases. Google has a pretty good translation now. I have to replace individual words, checking with the KJV. I check the quality of the translation by doing a reverse translation in another translator window.

Is Russian your first language?

I want to share something with you. I believe it's fun to discuss theological doctrines. We all want to know and understand the methods of God. However, such knowledge is not necessary for salvation. Jesus was asked which laws are the most important. Matthew 22:36-40. Jesus said to love God (which also means to obey God) and to love one another. I believe that is where our focus should be - love.

Continue to explore and investigate God's word but always keep love of God and others first and foremost in your heart.
 

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Is Russian your first language?

I want to share something with you. I believe it's fun to discuss theological doctrines. We all want to know and understand the methods of God. However, such knowledge is not necessary for salvation. Jesus was asked which laws are the most important. Matthew 22:36-40. Jesus said to love God (which also means to obey God) and to love one another. I believe that is where our focus should be - love.

Continue to explore and investigate God's word but always keep love of God and others first and foremost in your heart.
Yes, the only language I speak is Russian.

Thank you, and I wish the same to you! We must learn to overcome barriers in ourselves, so that I myself am not an obstacle for God.
 
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The names of cities on Earth are not translated. On all maps of the world the name of the city will be written - Yahweh Shammah. In this name there is the sacred Name of God - Tetragrammaton. This will be the return of the forbidden Name of God among people. Nowadays Jews do not use this name.

One is not required to speakie the hebrew to get born again and walk with the Lord and go to Heaven.


I believe that shows God is perfect masculine and perfect feminine.

Scripture does not ever describe God as being feminine... but all the sex perverts try to make that case since they are listening to the devil which is how they became perverts in the first place.


Just keep this in your heart and mind = Elohim is not gender confused nor does HE designate HIMself as female gender.

Thank you... Thank you very much
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No. My "denomination" is Israel, the people of God. For now, that's in the future for us.

So you do not believe Jesus Christ... is the Messiah then?
 

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One is not required to speakie the hebrew to get born again and walk with the Lord and go to Heaven.
The name of the city Yahweh Shammah is not so that we can go to Heaven. The city Yahweh Shammah will appear on earth so that the Kingdom of Heaven will come down to earth in power and glory.

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The name of the city Yahweh Shammah is not so that we can go to Heaven. The city Yahweh Shammah will appear on earth so that the Kingdom of Heaven will come down to earth in power and glory.

That is all fine, swell, and lovely... but still there is no requirement to speakie the hebrew to be saved or to be closer to the Lord than others as the hebrew roots movement peoples claim.
 

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Jesus is God, but He is not the Father. Think of it like this: Which is the real me? Is it my body? Or is it my mind/intellect. Or perhaps it's my spirit/soul. Or is it all three. Yes, it is all three. But my soul is not my body, and my intellect is not my body etc . . . . But they are all me. That's what God is like. Father, Son and Holy Spirit. All are God but the Son is not the Father etc . . . . . Hope that helps.

It’s a matter of Foretelling…then waiting for the Manifestation…

However…it is humans that which “wait to see”…it is accounted unto God…”already done”.

God calls those things …that are Not as though They ARE…. (Letting mankind KNOW…) even though THEY can not SEE with their Human Eyes (Spirituall it’s Accomplished)…

For example…a Converted man is Called a New Creature…yet by and far a humans eyes literally SEE nothing “new”… nor will they until their body is Risen up.

The word of God (God Himself) has appeared to manKIND…in the Fashion “as a human man since the Beginning”…
** AND…had no name, but a Title…
Then Names, Titles, Descriptions…
* In the Latter day (after 4,000 years of humans / population increase…
The Name JESUS was Revealed.
30 Years Later the Title, Son was Revealed…
2-3 Later, The Title was Assuredly Revealed;

Wait for it…if you did not “get”…the foretelling…
He shall be Revealed With the TTTLE…
Everlasting Father…
KING of kings…
LORD of lords…
He, the Great, “I AM”…
Thee Mighty God, Creator and Maker.


And All those humans who are “converted”…new creatures…
Shall SEE Him “as He is”…Spirit.

God bless you.
Happy new year.

Glory to God,
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That is all fine, swell, and lovely... but still there is no requirement to speakie the hebrew to be saved or to be closer to the Lord than others as the hebrew roots movement peoples claim.

True… God is not stumped by the Umpteen languages humans speak.
God knows the hearts thoughts of every individual human.

Glory to God,
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That is all fine, swell, and lovely... but still there is no requirement to speakie the hebrew to be saved or to be closer to the Lord than others as the hebrew roots movement peoples claim.
I don't speak Hebrew yet. Unfortunately.

Now, for anyone involved in science or technology, knowledge of English is a must. Because almost all scientific publications are in English.

For a person who wants to delve deeper into the knowledge of God, Hebrew is necessary. But just as not every person becomes a scientist or engineer, not every person should become a theologian. Therefore, neither English nor Hebrew can be mandatory for everyone.

Those whom God will gather in His Kingdom in Israel will speak Hebrew.
 

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God calls those things …that are Not as though They ARE

Abraham doing that Word of Faith thing... just like God does!

Romans 4:17-21
As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.
Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.
And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old, neither yet the deadness of Sara's womb:
He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;
And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.
 
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For a person who wants to delve deeper into the knowledge of God, Hebrew is necessary

Wrong... being led by the Holy Ghost is what is necessary according to Jesus!

See John 16:13, and John 17:17

Jesus said the Holy Ghost would lead us in to ALL Truth (John 16:13),
and Jesus said God's Word IS Truth (John 17:17)

Romans 8:14
For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God.
 

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Wrong... being led by the Holy Ghost is what is necessary according to Jesus!

See John 16:13, and John 17:17

Jesus said the Holy Ghost would lead us in to ALL Truth (John 16:13),
and Jesus said God's Word IS Truth (John 17:17)

Romans 8:14
For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God.

The word of God is both beautiful and powerful.
 
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