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I actually define Freedom this way: - Freedom is the consequence of being in a right relationship with God.

What I had stated above is what people believe Freedom is. Your definition is that Freedom is the ability to do that which one ought to do. I would suggest to you that what you are describing is liberties which are prescribed by the laws that result from the governance of the people.

People believe that they have "Rights," but what they enjoy is liberty where the boundary conditions are prescribed by the statutes of the Land. For example, a person can drive a car as long as that person complies with the laws associated with the processes of driving. It is not a right to drive but it is a privilege to drive a motor car allowed to us by the liberties embedded within our respective legal systems.

What we are experiencing at the moment in the world is anarchy, pure and simply.
You make some excellent points, Jay! And, I do believe that people have "rights." But those rights do not come from humans. They come from God, and are therefore unchangeable. As the Declaration of Independence claims, "that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights."

We are experiencing a revolution against the country and against God by those on the left who are driven by atheistic Marxism.
 

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You make some excellent points, Jay! And, I do believe that people have "rights." But those rights do not come from humans. They come from God, and are therefore unchangeable. As the Declaration of Independence claims, "that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights."

We are experiencing a revolution against the country and against God by those on the left who are driven by atheistic Marxism.

As God told Abraham, that Abraham would be a blessing to all of the peoples of the earth who inhabit his fertile field/soil.

Seems that Jesus used a similar expression during his first advent.
 

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Its proof that one political party, has weaponized the media and the courts, and the very USA Government itself... to try to do one thing..

"Stop Trump".

Welcome to the USSA.. .as this is exactly how Russia does it..

And when you have avowed MARXIST'S, like the American Vice President, who Hates Jesus, and Christianity also.... .. you have to wonder just how deep is the Marxism that has so infected the USA, especially within their Government.

Anyone who knows how Russia and similar Marxist Mentality Governments, use their Media and courts... can watch CNN or MSNBC.. and see it clearly.

If you called CNN the "Communist News Network", . you'd be telling the truth.
Many have referred to CNN as exactly that,and for years.
 
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Donald Trump has been convicted of no crimes that I am aware of, yet Democrats are trying to leave him off ballots. Isn't that the real threat to democracy?
Yes, Jesus will crush it out of existence-Daniel 2:44--You see when one throws God out, satan moves in.
 
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Wake-up!
Think about what the term 'socialism' means. It means having a social disposition....being social.
Folk have latched onto the various 'overlays' of the word just like they have latched onto the 'overlays' on the word Death. They interpret death to mean life somewhere else. They create and love their own distorted meaning.
Such is typical, so Go back to sleep bro.

Such is typical of such shallow people who are blinded by no understanding of the depths that Socialism is all about in fact.

I agree that on the face of Socialism it all looks good, so does Communism and regarding the Nazi's Socialist and the blindness of the Germans regarding such Socialist antics, but what the German people feared most of all was, not to go back to the Hell that was before Hitler ? 200% inflation !
Hitlers Socialist System worked well regarding turning the Nation around from death spiral of the whole Nation ? and powering it up totally ? to become the most powerful Nation in the world and the best Army in the world by far ! The UK did not have a hope of taking on Nazi Germany it's self in fact.

But under the German Socialist Nazi Party you had the same parasite that is taking over the West in fact ? for the German people were not allowed freedom to speak openly, for if one did, then such would be dealt with regardless !
That's what we are dealing with for say 20 years now in fact and such power dominating over all is getting stronger as the years progress in fact, for such as the Socialist, are truly only simple minded morons in fact ! for They do not understand the depth of reality's in fact ! all that such people do is clutching onto nonsense, The blind faith of an idiot ! One who knows nothing of Nazi Germany in depth at all, and it's the same brainless bozo deal with any Communist Nations. Mind you such people have no regard for the deaths of such people who had to endure under such systems, No wonder they are all for Abortion even up to 9 months ! what total creeps ! I can not believe it ! that the world as gone so backwards into such a retard mode !

You know what, i think most Aussies are fools. you know why ! because they are media indoctrinated, they are not educated on the subject of Socialism, i have met people from Socialist Nations and they have explained to me for over 50 years what it was like under such Socialist monsters.
You know i am not blind to the evils of Capitalism, i can see evils in any concept, but the problem is when such evil runs loose ! and the majority are to stupid to call such out ! that's the problem ! The Media is the problem because it's a Whore in fact ! they run the show ! because most fools only listen to the Media god ? it's another god to them.

I have given up on the Churches in Australia because it's just only like one great Socialist Party meeting nowadays and told rubbish, how's this, first up in Church, we are all informed, that we are all Awesome ! by the stupid Priest ! i had a go at him about such blasphemy !
Only God is Awesome bro in fact, but we are not Awesome in fact ! And we have to understand that issue and never have some Political Party dominate over the people like we see taking place nowadays.
Sure the Socialist paint a pretty picture of such but i know that all such is a working of Satanist duping the people in fact ! dangling that carrot ! and such works like a charm on simpletons, for they think it's X Mass. a bludger's paradise and all Socialist do not have a work ethic in fact and i have never met one who is not a bludger. for they are shirkers period ! for they have no gumption, for they are truly only lay about's whining about so much nonsense, because they are that shallow. stupid issues rule and dominate over them. but the big picture is too hard for the old scone to fathom.

Where is it that their is not a social disposition bro ! for their is always such in fact, but for Socialism is a cunning intent that is a false as they come ! for they do not believe in the Truth in fact bro and that exposes them in fact as the creep show that they truly are not to mention they will peddle that their are more than 2 genders o_O :mad::phew::phew::eek: talk about fantasy land ! they are off with the pixies ! but they demand this Voodoo be swallowed totally or else they will work to destroy anyone who does not follow their Fantasy world.
 

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California Senate candidate and Congressmember Adam Schiff is calling for a major overhaul of American institutions, including getting rid of the Electoral College, expanding the Supreme Court and eliminating the filibuster in the name of protecting democracy.

What the left means by "protect our democracy" is really protect our power. Their power only. Someone once said, "Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms." That seems to be the direction America is heading. Someone else once said, "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
 

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What threatens our "democracy" is where we place our trust in that democracy.

We have this perceived threat to our planet and if we do "a," "b" and "c" then we can fix the perceived threat in our own strength. At present in the world, because many nations tried to fix Babylon, God foretold that the following two problems would arise on the planet.

Jeremiah 51:13-17: -

13 O you who dwell by many waters,
Abundant in treasures,
Your end has come,
The measure of your covetousness.
14 The Lord of hosts has sworn by Himself:
"Surely, I will fill you with men, who devour much,
And they shall lift up a shout against you."

15 He has made the earth by His power;
He has established the world by His wisdom,
And stretched out the heaven by His understanding.
16 When He utters His voice —
There is a multitude of waters in the heavens:
"He causes the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth;
He makes lightnings for the rain;
He brings the wind out of His treasuries. "

17 Everyone is dull-hearted, without knowledge;
Every metalsmith is put to shame by the carved image;
For his moulded image is falsehood,
And there is no breath in them.

God has told us this if we want to "fix" our situation: -

2 Chronicles 7:13-14: - 13 When I shut up heaven and there is no rain, or command the locusts to devour the land, or send pestilence among My people, 14 If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.

Can those who are supposedly called by God's Name recognise their sin?

Presently, it seems that they cannot. Their idol of self-righteousness has blinded them from seeing their own sin.

Shalom
 
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Such is typical, so Go back to sleep bro.

Such is typical of such shallow people who are blinded by no understanding of the depths that Socialism is all about in fact.

I agree that on the face of Socialism it all looks good, so does Communism and regarding the Nazi's Socialist and the blindness of the Germans regarding such Socialist antics, but what the German people feared most of all was, not to go back to the Hell that was before Hitler ? 200% inflation !
Hitlers Socialist System worked well regarding turning the Nation around from death spiral of the whole Nation ? and powering it up totally ? to become the most powerful Nation in the world and the best Army in the world by far ! The UK did not have a hope of taking on Nazi Germany it's self in fact.

But under the German Socialist Nazi Party you had the same parasite that is taking over the West in fact ? for the German people were not allowed freedom to speak openly, for if one did, then such would be dealt with regardless !
That's what we are dealing with for say 20 years now in fact and such power dominating over all is getting stronger as the years progress in fact, for such as the Socialist, are truly only simple minded morons in fact ! for They do not understand the depth of reality's in fact ! all that such people do is clutching onto nonsense, The blind faith of an idiot ! One who knows nothing of Nazi Germany in depth at all, and it's the same brainless bozo deal with any Communist Nations. Mind you such people have no regard for the deaths of such people who had to endure under such systems, No wonder they are all for Abortion even up to 9 months ! what total creeps ! I can not believe it ! that the world as gone so backwards into such a retard mode !

You know what, i think most Aussies are fools. you know why ! because they are media indoctrinated, they are not educated on the subject of Socialism, i have met people from Socialist Nations and they have explained to me for over 50 years what it was like under such Socialist monsters.
You know i am not blind to the evils of Capitalism, i can see evils in any concept, but the problem is when such evil runs loose ! and the majority are to stupid to call such out ! that's the problem ! The Media is the problem because it's a Whore in fact ! they run the show ! because most fools only listen to the Media god ? it's another god to them.

I have given up on the Churches in Australia because it's just only like one great Socialist Party meeting nowadays and told rubbish, how's this, first up in Church, we are all informed, that we are all Awesome ! by the stupid Priest ! i had a go at him about such blasphemy !
Only God is Awesome bro in fact, but we are not Awesome in fact ! And we have to understand that issue and never have some Political Party dominate over the people like we see taking place nowadays.
Sure the Socialist paint a pretty picture of such but i know that all such is a working of Satanist duping the people in fact ! dangling that carrot ! and such works like a charm on simpletons, for they think it's X Mass. a bludger's paradise and all Socialist do not have a work ethic in fact and i have never met one who is not a bludger. for they are shirkers period ! for they have no gumption, for they are truly only lay about's whining about so much nonsense, because they are that shallow. stupid issues rule and dominate over them. but the big picture is too hard for the old scone to fathom.

Where is it that their is not a social disposition bro ! for their is always such in fact, but for Socialism is a cunning intent that is a false as they come ! for they do not believe in the Truth in fact bro and that exposes them in fact as the creep show that they truly are not to mention they will peddle that their are more than 2 genders o_O :mad::phew::phew::eek: talk about fantasy land ! they are off with the pixies ! but they demand this Voodoo be swallowed totally or else they will work to destroy anyone who does not follow their Fantasy world.
I think of socialism as communism and the state owns you, your personal freedom and privacy is gone. They may feed, house and give you some stuff, but the price is they own you body and soul and they expect your allegiance. The state can also use and dispose of you as they see fit.
 
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They also demand you vote only for the party, which is their party.

I bet they let everyone vote how they want... so they can see WHO is voting against the communist party.

That we they can further purge the population of those that aren't communist to further strengthen their grip on power.

That's what they do in china... they let people do certain things freely to help government find the disinters

If one ever finds themselves in a re-education camp... it's time to start a re-education camp ministry to help other in the camp get born again so they can go to Heaven when they get whacked.

It's a win win!
 
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Unless the Dems have figured out a way to cheat...again. Josef Stalin once said something along the lines of "It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes."
You cant prove they cheated the first time. There is no evidence. I have no idea why you guys keep harping on that.
 

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You cant prove they cheated the first time. There is no evidence. I have no idea why you guys keep harping on that.
They been cheating at the voting booth for decades. We just don't like to admit it when our side wins, whichever side that is.
The Democrats accused Trump of cheating in 2016. Were they wrong? They called him an illegitimate president.
But in 2020 there is evidence that cheating occured and it was caught on video all over the place.
The fact that other people besides the states legislatures changed the rules to drop boxes and days to count votes and ballots with illegible signatures and no ID's required.. I could go on and on.
What it did do was to bring awareness to the fact that both sides been duping us at the polls for a long time and now it's time to stop that.
If our votes don't count we don't have a country let alone a democracy.
There is a reason why the 2020 election was allowed to be stolen. So the corruption behind ALL elections could be discovered.
People are more aware now. Eyes on everywhere. And maybe at some point we will have legitimate elections.
The thing is not to take sides about it because both sides do it. The thing is to stop it from happening again.
One way to do it would to be remove campaign financing. It's always about the money. And who is funding who.
Take out the money and maybe the elections could be a little more honest.

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Yes, Jesus will crush it out of existence-Daniel 2:44--You see when one throws God out, satan moves in.
Do you read Matthew 24? the world will become worse and worse, and the antichrist will league with everyone. So i gues trump and the antichrist will be instrumental in that fall.
 

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True Christians aren't trusting in democracy... their trust is in the Lord Jesus Christ and being a citizen in His Kingdom. View attachment 39924
Democracy ? what is it ? well their are forms of Democracy !

Pure Democracy is stupid and will fail in fact, because such has no common sense behind such at all.

Now i had faith in the Democracy that we once had, but that Democracy has been under attack from Socialist 24/7 and such is being built up by the Satanic Socialist con-artist playing the majority who do not understand such issues or care, for fools !

So i can say that we had a Democracy and that was the foundations of the UK Democracy and i am proud of that in fact ! for that built our Nation in fact.

Now my 1952 Catholic Bible points to Democracy, within the Doctrinal guide regarding Liberalism. Christianity is not a democracy in fact. because it's built on Truth in Christ. it's the foundation Stone of a healthy society.
Democracy in it's pure form is worthless, for it's sickness and lead by corruption, for such comes not from Christ Jesus in fact !
So we need a healthy Democracy in fact ! That means that such is built on solid foundations in Christ Jesus in fact !

Hitler had a Democracy in fact, for it was a Socialist Democracy in fact ! Just as Joe Biden and Co are a Socialist Democracy in fact !

So when Joe Biden talks of Democracy, he is not talking from the position of the Democratic Party that was once what the USA had in fact ! but the fact remains is that that Party has been taken over totally and a New foundations of a Socialist Democratic Party has crept in to dominate the Party that it once was in fact ! Same Party in Name only but it has changed it's spots in fact ! It has killed the foundations of what was the Democrat Party in fact !

In Australia we have a Liberal Party, but the word used here regarding Liberal has nothing to do with what the USA calls Liberal in fact ? For it is a Right Wing Party in fact ! or was built on such ! and full on anti Socialist in fact !

But come PM M Turnbull, he bought his way into the Party and with the creepy criminal side factions within the Party he began dismantling the Party in fact, so as to become a Socialist Liberal Party in fact, So the Party would fundamentally change it's spots ! and the majority or so would not wake up to the fact that the Party had changed totally in fact !
It's the political Party that was Stolen from within ? one could say !
Like with the OT Jews in fact that such crept in unawares in fact !

But PM M Turnbull got kicked out by the Party in fact ! but the MSM hid everything totally that was taking place regarding this attempt ! Dedicated life long Members of this Party were jumping ship in droves and top people being pushed out, cunningly setup to get the chop !
The most evil takeover of the Party from within was taking place and the MSM hid it all totally the best that they could ! so that the average person did not cotton on ! for their only education is through the Media !

I do not know how the workings of the USA Democratic Party turned around and became the Socialist Democratic Party ! I think from went Baby Bush entered the Republican Presidency, that it looked to me as he was just a Stooge and a full on Goose ! same when Obama Democrat was President it stunk like hell of corruption and the MSM in his pocket, working to try and make him look good 24/7 and it's the same with Joe Biden in fact !

But look at Trump, he is attacked 24/7 with stupid pathetic nonsense that even a 10 yo could work out is outright Malice in fact ! that is outright typical of Socialist and Communist in fact ! that history proves such to be outright criminals that led the people astray in fact !

You do not attack a person like that ! that's a outright grubs way of conduct, but they fear him totally for he may expose them for all that they are. A Godless full on Satanic Mob who are working to undermine the USA and it's foundations it was built on and undermining the people to become addicted to all things that are trash, depravity and moronic ! and we have the same dip sticks here, they make me feel sick, like they are on par with Hitler, different but the same evil intents to be sure to be sure ! I despise them totally !
 
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Do you read Matthew 24? the world will become worse and worse, and the antichrist will league with everyone. So i gues trump and the antichrist will be instrumental in that fall.
The antichrist is anything that stands in opposition to God and his son. 99% of all religion claiming to be christian do that daily. Every govt on earth does it daily, all false religions do it daily, as does the commercial system. 99% of all mortals do it daily. They are being mislead.
 
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Do you read Matthew 24? the world will become worse and worse, and the antichrist will league with everyone. So i gues trump and the antichrist will be instrumental in that fall.
Yeah, kind of like Michael vs. the Dragon.
:)

I can hear this argument:
Why should David be King. He had an adulterous affair and then had her husband killed in the front lines of battle.
I tell you why.
Because the people didn't choose David, God did.

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California Senate candidate and Congressmember Adam Schiff is calling for a major overhaul of American institutions, including getting rid of the Electoral College, expanding the Supreme Court and eliminating the filibuster in the name of protecting democracy.

What the left means by "protect our democracy" is really protect our power. Their power only. Someone once said, "Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms." That seems to be the direction America is heading. Someone else once said, "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
I get emails from Schiff BEGGING for money all the time!