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Paul is talking about the blindness in part belonging to Israel in unbelief. He does not say the blindness that is in part shall be lifted from Israel in unbelief, he is simply stating a fact.
I don’t agree with this statement, Israel in unbelief is referring to Jews who were still under the old covenant.



2 Corinthians 3:14-16 14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. 15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart. 16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.



At some point the veil gets lifted and they are no longer blind in part. Romans 11:25 blindness in part until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in.

Luke 17:30-31 30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. 31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.

It would seem that the veil gets lifted and the blindness in part would end when the Son of man is revealed.
 

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I don’t agree with this statement, Israel in unbelief is referring to Jews who were still under the old covenant.


The old cov does not exist so no one is under it and hasn't been since the cross.


At some point the veil gets lifted and they are no longer blind in part.

It's like blindfolding blind people. Removing the blindfold doesn't change anything. They were blinded because they didn't believe so removing the blindness still results in disbelief.
 

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The old cov does not exist so no one is under it and hasn't been since the cross.
Not so, Hebrews 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

When Hebrews was written the old covenant had not yet vanished.
 

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The old cov does not exist so no one is under it and hasn't been since the cross.




It's like blindfolding blind people. Removing the blindfold doesn't change anything. They were blinded because they didn't believe so removing the blindness still results in disbelief.
The renting of the veil, that was in the temple, separating the ppl from God's holiness, was fulfilled when Christ died.

This fulfilling broke down the barriers of the laws of God to only Jews; opening up grace by faith to all mankind.

Jesus nailed the ordinances that were against us on the cross making the blood of bulls & goats for the forgiveness of sins unto God, obsolete.

The shedding of his blood IS NOW FOR THE REMISSION OF SIN TO ALL; WHOSOEVER WILL !

I cannot understand those longing to be under bondage to the law and yet forgetting if they choose the law, ALL MUST BE DONE OR ELSE THEY ARE QUILTY OF ALL.
 

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The renting of the veil, that was in the temple, separating the ppl from God's holiness, was fulfilled when Christ died.

This fulfilling broke down the barriers of the laws of God to only Jews; opening up grace by faith to all mankind.

Jesus nailed the ordinances that were against us on the cross making the blood of bulls & goats for the forgiveness of sins unto God, obsolete.

The shedding of his blood IS NOW FOR THE REMISSION OF SIN TO ALL; WHOSOEVER WILL !

I cannot understand those longing to be under bondage to the law and yet forgetting if they choose the law, ALL MUST BE DONE OR ELSE THEY ARE QUILTY OF ALL.
What do you think is going on in Acts 21:20?

Acts 21:20 And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law:

Here you have Jews which believed but were still zealous for the law.
 
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What do you think is going on in Acts 21:20?

Acts 21:20 And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law:

Here you have Jews which believed but were still zealous for the law.
To pull and isolate one verse from the contextual whole is very poor form.

Acts 21 talks about Paul going up to the Jews to declare unto them how the Gentles were being saved.
They rebuked him and asked him for purification of himself, Paul was a Pharisee of renown before his conversion.

In compliance of purification they sought his arrest.
They too wanted to be Judaizers, after supposedly receiving Christ, continuing to be observers of the law, just as some whom ARE NOT JEWS DO TODAY !.

Those set free from the schoolmaster; the law, are free under the supreme sacrifice of Jesus, the Christ.

Very poor form and as such, we will not speak again !
 
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To pull and isolate one verse from the contextual whole is very poor form.

Acts 21 talks about Paul going up to the Jews to declare unto them how the Gentles were being saved.
They rebuked him and asked him for purification of himself, Paul was a Pharisee of renown before his conversion.

In compliance of purification they sought his arrest.
They too wanted to be Judaizers, after supposedly receiving Christ, continuing to be observers of the law, just as some whom ARE NOT JEWS DO TODAY !.

Those set free from the schoolmaster; the law, are free under the supreme sacrifice of Jesus, the Christ.

Very poor form and as such, we will not speak again !
You left out Acts 21:18 And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present.

And Acts 21:23 Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them;

James and all the elders were there, they are the ones who asked Paul to take the vow.

I’m not saying we should be under the law, just trying to show what was happening in the first century. You don’t have to like it but it is in the Bible.
 

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2 Timothy 2:15

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth

This is how error of doctrines and beliefs goes awry by taking a script of our context that is not meant to stand alone.

Proving ones pov is good if it is in the structure of contextual theology.
 
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Not so, Hebrews 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

When Hebrews was written the old covenant had not yet vanished.

It decayeth which means it is dead and rotting. It hadn't vanished completely yet because the rotted corpse still partially remained. That doesn't mean what you think it means, as in it was still in effect and valid. It was dead and almost completely rotted away.

The first cov is gone as I previously stated.
 
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You left out Acts 21:18 And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present.

And Acts 21:23 Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them;

James and all the elders were there, they are the ones who asked Paul to take the vow.

I’m not saying we should be under the law, just trying to show what was happening in the first century. You don’t have to like it but it is in the Bible.


Paul was ordered to do this. The danger he was in is apparently just a handful of verses later. James was wrong to insist that Paul do this. Luckily Paul was interrupted by the murderous crowd and was saved by the Romans.
 
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The breath came from God whether a metaphor or not.
You are trying to manufacture a thought that is not there.
As students of the Bible, we must resist our natural inclination to read the Genesis account as a set of instructions on how to create a universe. Otherwise, we may arrive at the wrong conclusion. Someone might unintentionally approach a verse like Genesis 2:7 with curiosity and assume that Moses gave his readers God's recipe for fashioning a human being. However, Moses is not instructing us on how to create a human being, that is, by taking some quality dust and imbuing it with the Holy Spirit. Rather than giving his readers the recipe for life, Moses means to clarify that our life and ability to live came from God himself.

Genesis 2:7 should be interpreted within the context of God's creative activity. While we may speculate about the process itself, the main takeaway from this verse is the concept that God can transform something common and insignificant into something rare and profound. And in this case, God created "a living being", or a "soul."

When a lifeless body was transformed by God, it resulted in the creation of a living being. This living being not only had the ability to walk and move around, but also possessed the capacity to think and act according to moral standards. It was capable of working, playing, relaxing, loving, exploring the world, understanding reality as it is, and possessing knowledge.

In essence, it began as an inanimate object and became a person. It started out as a WHAT and became a WHO.

As Christians living in this century, our vision of God needs to get bigger. We have a tendency to anthropomorphize God in order to make him more understandable. But unfortunately, in the process, we mistakenly act as if God is just another person like us. When we create something, we gather all the necessary materials together. When God creates something, he doesn't need to use available materials. He speaks everything into existence "exnihilo" i.e from nothing.

Therefore I conclude that we don't possess a soul, we ARE a soul. THAT is what Genesis 2:7 says. Man became a soul.

The verse says nothing about our spirit, but that God breathed into us the breadth of life the same way many were inspired or God breathed throughout the OT.
My conclusion that God animated humankind with a spirit of its own comes from the idea that the Hebrew word for Spirit is the same or closely related to the Hebrew word for breath. And since Moses described a man as "a living being" we understand that God gave natural life to a human being. In addition to that, the Bible also associates spirit with other things that enliven us such as our thoughts and motives.

1 Corinthians 2:11
For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God.

Paul believes that no man can know what someone else is thinking, only their own spirit can. Similarly, humans cannot know what God is thinking, only the Spirit of God can know that. However, if a person decides to communicate their thoughts through language, then it's possible for another person to know what they are thinking. But God chooses to communicate indirectly through prophets or apostles. Paul asserts that God has directly communicated his thoughts to him.

If, as you say, God animated man with the Holy Spirit, then all of mankind would know the thoughts God in a direct way. But as Paul said, the thoughts of God no one knows.

We are talking about the creation of the sons of God. We are not talking about Adam's descendants.
Who said anything about the sons of God?
I pointed out that the point should be applied to all humans. God gives life in the womb or takes it away, no? Then you deny that it is God literally breathing air into human life. If it is not air, nor the Holy Spirit, you have come up with a third option that is manufactured by human understanding and not from Scripture.
I am not aware of any Bible verses that explain what happens to a person in the womb. However, the book of Ecclesiastes states that after death, our bodies return to the earth as dust and our spirits return to God, who gave them to us. Therefore, it can be assumed that God gives each individual a unique spirit. However, there is no mention that God gives us His spirit.

David poetically suggests, "For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb." So one might argue that God's creative activity never stops. He creates each individual with special attention given to each particular individual. Even so, a broad examination of scripture will reveal that often the miraculous appears to have natural causes. For instance, many believe they have discovered a natural cause for the parting of the Red Sea. And yet, the Bible teaches us that the parting of the Red Sea was timed such that Israel was able to cross unharmed, while Egyptian armies drowned as the waters returned to normal.

The Bible maintains a distinction between actions that arise from natural, physical, chemical, and/or biological causes and supernatural, divine causes, even though, in the long run, everything has a divine cause. This distinction forms the backdrop to the discussion Jesus was having with Nicodemus. Jesus told Nicodemus that one needed to be born again. And Nicodemus' first thought was, "can a man return to his mother's womb?" From this question, we can conclude that Nicodemus was thinking in terms of natural causes. He was born according to natural causes, and he assumed that a second birth would also involve natural causes. Jesus quickly disabused Nicodemus of that idea, arguing that the new birth will have a supernatural cause and origin.
 

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I don’t agree with this statement, Israel in unbelief is referring to Jews who were still under the old covenant.

Yes, that's why I write they were Israel in unbelief. Those who rejected Christ to remain under the Old.
At some point the veil gets lifted and they are no longer blind in part. Romans 11:25 blindness in part until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in.

Luke 17:30-31 30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. 31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.

It would seem that the veil gets lifted and the blindness in part would end when the Son of man is revealed.

The vail is only done away in Christ. Even after Christ came, Paul writes the vail has not been taken away in the reading of the Old Testament for the part in blindness still.

2 Corinthians 3:13-16 (KJV) And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart. Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.

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does not mean that when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in with Israel of faith, then the blindness in part to Israel shall be removed. Because when the last Gentile is saved, time for building the spiritual Kingdom of God will be ended, the Kingdom of God complete. There will be no more to come into the Kingdom once the Kingdom is complete. That's when the seventh trumpet shall begin to sound, the symbolic thousand years finished, and Satan shall be loosed for his little season. There will not be one thousand more years of time given this earth after the Kingdom of God is complete through the last Gentile to be saved by grace through faith.
 

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What do you think is going on in Acts 21:20?

Acts 21:20 And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law:

Here you have Jews which believed but were still zealous for the law.

That lasted only as long as the Temple remained. Once Jerusalem and the temple were destroyed in 70 AD, those who professed to believe in Christ for everlasting life would either turn away from Him completely, or fully embrace Him. And this only by grace through faith. IOW the faith those coming out of the Law professed to have would be tested that they might know if their faith had saved them.
 
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You left out Acts 21:18 And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present.

And Acts 21:23 Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them;

James and all the elders were there, they are the ones who asked Paul to take the vow.

I’m not saying we should be under the law, just trying to show what was happening in the first century. You don’t have to like it but it is in the Bible.

Paul tells us why he, and even Christ continued to be as the Jews under that law was to lead them to Christ.

1 Corinthians 9:19-23 (KJV) For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more. And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law; To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law. To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some. And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.
 
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2 Corinthians 5:1 declares there are two bodies. One from Adam through genetics. The other from God. Both are physical from the atoms/dust of creation. Adam was created with the one from God, by God's own hands. Then at the point Adam disobeyed, God took that body away and gave him the temporal one of corruption.
What particular scripture teaches that? I don't see this anywhere.
My point was that Jesus never had the temporal body, but was God, formed in the womb of Mary, not the genetics passed down from Adam.
And why would you believe this? Are you a Gnostic? I don't think so, but I could be wrong. Where in the Bible does it say that Jesus had a body different from any other human body? Isn't it obvious from the crucifixion that the body of Jesus was a human body? What leads you to believe that the body of Jesus wasn't human, having the qualities and attributes of all other human beings on the planet?
Yes that permanent incorruptible physical body died on the Cross.
Really? Then why do you say it was permanent?
Death was the whole point. Those who crucified Him needed to know there was a literal death, and not a fake or staged death.
What makes you think that those who crucified him needed to know something?
That same permanent incorruptible physical body came back to life when the soul re-entered the body, and Jesus left the tomb without even having the stone removed.
I don't understand. You seem to be saying that the resurrection of Jesus is not good news for the rest of us because he had an incorruptible body that was brought back to life. However, according to Paul, Jesus being a man was important to prove that the rest of us can have confidence in our hope to be resurrected. If God could bring back an incorruptible body, it doesn't necessarily mean that the same would happen to those of us with corruptible bodies.

Hebrews 2:14-15
Therefore, since the children share in flesh and blood, He Himself likewise also partook of the same, that through death He might render powerless him who had the power of death, that is, the devil, and might free those who through fear of death were subject to slavery all their lives.

The point is, Jesus and the children share the same kind of flesh so that through death, he might render the devil powerless. You seem to say that Jesus didn't share the same flesh with the children.
Jesus never had the temporal corruptible physical body. Many here are arguing that Jesus had a sin nature corrupt body from Joseph instead of the physical body that was God as a son of God. Because Jesus obeyed, and after going to heaven God blessed Jesus with the permanent incorruptible physical body or spiritual immortal body, terms they have manufactured. Spiritual meaning no longer physical.
I don't know. I can't imagine a Christian making such an argument. I don't think anyone is arguing that Jesus had a sin nature. Paul argues in Romans 8 that Jesus came in the likeness of sinful flesh. He also argues in Hebrews 4, that Jesus was tempted in all ways like us but he was without sin. Paul's argument breaks down if Jesus was NOT like us in every way. He lived as a man and walked among his people as a man, in the likeness of sinful flesh but without sin.

To suggest that Jesus was sinless because his biology was different than the average human being is a mistaken notion, based on biological determinism. Nature doesn't cause who we are; nature describes who we are. Biology doesn't explain why I am a sinner, while Jesus is not. Spirituality explains the difference. We are not without sin because we don't yet
We are not sinners because we HAVE a sin nature. We
Physical does not mean sinful or natural from Adam. Physical is referring to the body. Spiritual refers to the spirit of man. Having both a body and spirit is the natural form of a son of God per Genesis 1 and 2.

The Holy Spirit dwells in us. Demonic spirits can dwell in us. Even other spirits can be sent by God. But we are spiritually separated from our own spirit, because it is not the literal air we breathe in and out. If we had our own spirit, we would not be spiritually dead needing the Holy Spirit.

So either the spirit returning to God is just our last breath, literal air, or it is the Holy Spirit returning to God.

And the soul leaves behind the corruptible temporal physical body at death, which returns to dust. Many souls go to sheol. The redeemed souls enter Paradise and that permanent incorruptible physical body from God. The Cross made that physical body from God possible because that is when all the OT redeemed left their graves and the soul left Abraham's bosom, and those bodies were the same permanent incorruptible physical body Jesus always had. They all ascended to Paradise with Jesus at the same time and were the firstfruits per 1 Corinthians 15:23
I can't understand any of that.
 

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Then Paul is not even talking about the physical body when he says mortal putting on immortality, which has always been my point.

No one should use the term immortal body.

Paul was addressing the spiritual aspect of life. That is leaving death for life.
I disagree. The subject of 1 Corinthians 15 is the resurrection of the body.

"how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead?"
“How are the dead raised? And with what kind of body do they come?”

In order to address objections to the Gospel, Paul starts his argument in the chapter with a witness report of the gospel message. This message is that just as Jesus was raised from the dead, his followers will also be raised from the dead. This is the essence of the gospel. Someone may try to challenge Paul's claim by questioning the concept of resurrection, while another might question the likelihood of a reconstituted body to challenge the concept of resurrection. In any case, Paul is not talking about spirituality or the spiritual aspect of life. He is not talking about being reborn, born from above, the new birth, or being born again. This passage is concerned with the perpetuation of the individual.
 

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I disagree. The subject of 1 Corinthians 15 is the resurrection of the body.

"how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead?"
“How are the dead raised? And with what kind of body do they come?”

In order to address objections to the Gospel, Paul starts his argument in the chapter with a witness report of the gospel message. This message is that just as Jesus was raised from the dead, his followers will also be raised from the dead. This is the essence of the gospel. Someone may try to challenge Paul's claim by questioning the concept of resurrection, while another might question the likelihood of a reconstituted body to challenge the concept of resurrection. In any case, Paul is not talking about spirituality or the spiritual aspect of life. He is not talking about being reborn, born from above, the new birth, or being born again. This passage is concerned with the perpetuation of the individual.

I believe in 1Co 15 Paul speaks of not only the physical resurrection when our body is resurrected and changed when the last trumpet sounds, Paul also speaks of what becomes of man's body after physical death. Paul writes that when our body dies it is not the body that shall be, because the body that now is returns to the earth, and it is raised, (not yet resurrected to physical life again) but raised a living spiritual body to heaven continuing to be a soul. Those who die in faith are spiritually alive after physical death through the Holy Spirit of Christ within us. Paul writes this is because in Christ we have everlasting/eternal life through Him.

1 Corinthians 15:43-49 (KJV) It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

In all of this Paul is showing us that in Christ death has been defeated for faithful saints. If in life we have part in the resurrection life of Christ before we die (the first resurrection), our own raising from the dead shall be in two stages. The first stage proves that Christ spoke truthfully when He said that whoever lives and believes in Him shall NEVER die. That's because after the bodies of faithful saints dies, our eternal spirit, alive through Christ's Spirit in us, shall return to God where we shall be with the Lord in heaven a spiritual body of believers, called souls to wait for the spiritual Kingdom of God to be complete when the last trumpet sounds. Then our body of flesh too shall be raised and changed from mortal to immortal and corruptible to incorruptible, being raised in glory and power physically alive again through our living spirit that returns with Christ.
 

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I believe in 1Co 15 Paul speaks of not only the physical resurrection when our body is resurrected and changed when the last trumpet sounds, Paul also speaks of what becomes of man's body after physical death. Paul writes that when our body dies it is not the body that shall be, because the body that now is returns to the earth, and it is raised, (not yet resurrected to physical life again) but raised a living spiritual body to heaven continuing to be a soul. Those who die in faith are spiritually alive after physical death through the Holy Spirit of Christ within us. Paul writes this is because in Christ we have everlasting/eternal life through Him.

1 Corinthians 15:43-49 (KJV) It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

In all of this Paul is showing us that in Christ death has been defeated for faithful saints. If in life we have part in the resurrection life of Christ before we die (the first resurrection), our own raising from the dead shall be in two stages. The first stage proves that Christ spoke truthfully when He said that whoever lives and believes in Him shall NEVER die. That's because after the bodies of faithful saints dies, our eternal spirit, alive through Christ's Spirit in us, shall return to God where we shall be with the Lord in heaven a spiritual body of believers, called souls to wait for the spiritual Kingdom of God to be complete when the last trumpet sounds. Then our body of flesh too shall be raised and changed from mortal to immortal and corruptible to incorruptible, being raised in glory and power physically alive again through our living spirit that returns with Christ.
I respectfully disagree. Paul is talking not about being taken to heaven, but being resurrected from the dead and changed. I don't see anything in the passage about being taken to heaven.
 

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It decayeth which means it is dead and rotting. It hadn't vanished completely yet because the rotted corpse still partially remained.
My whole point was that some Jews were still under the old covenant, notice I said nothing about it being a choice or not. You on the other hand apparently think they couldn’t have made a choice to remain under the old covenant.

Hmmm, no free will for the Jews, interesting.

No matter, you agree that the dead stinking corpse of the old covenant had not yet vanished, meaning when Acts and Hebrews was written.

That doesn't mean what you think it means, as in it was still in effect and valid.
I’m not sure why you even said this, but personal attacks can be expected when feathers get ruffled.

The first cov is gone as I previously stated.
That’s not correct, as you just stated it was a rotting corpse. You are flip flopping, that corpse wasn’t gone, it was still being observed by some. That’s why Hebrews 8:13 says it hadn’t vanished.

Paul was ordered to do this. The danger he was in is apparently just a handful of verses later. James was wrong to insist that Paul do this. Luckily Paul was interrupted by the murderous crowd and was saved by the Romans.
I’m not disagreeing with that, it seems you have the wrong impression on what I believe. At least you are admitting these things took place, L.A.M.B. didn’t seem to think so and apparently Fullness of the Gentiles agrees with that.

It seems strange to me that a disagreement would even take place about whether an event like this happened or not when the Bible says it did.
 

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Until does not mean that when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in with Israel of faith, then the blindness in part to Israel shall be removed. Because when the last Gentile is saved, time for building the spiritual Kingdom of God will be ended, the Kingdom of God complete. There will be no more to come into the Kingdom once the Kingdom is complete. That's when the seventh trumpet shall begin to sound, the symbolic thousand years finished, and Satan shall be loosed for his little season. There will not be one thousand more years of time given this earth after the Kingdom of God is complete through the last Gentile to be saved by grace through faith.
Ok, this is where I’m not seeing eye to eye with you.

If “until” doesn’t mean when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in, then why would Luke 17:30-31 say the Son of man is revealed?
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. 31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.

Doesn’t this imply that once the Son of man is revealed, the people He is revealed to will take action? I wouldn’t think the Son of man needs to be revealed to believers (at least believers who aren’t blind in part) as we already know Him.