THEY TRIED TO KILL TRUMP IN PA!

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The conversation has moved on but I wanted to respond to your reply. I get that he was there to shoot Trump, but to me it’s significant that he didn’t take a shot at the policeman instead spared from shooting at him. Honestly I know little about politics. But with all the shootings in todays world, a lot in schools….this young man’s actions didn’t fit the regular of shooting everything in sight once the he starts shooting. Like the other shootings in public places…he held off when he could have killed the cop then turned on the crowd and Trump. I’m not sure then he ever meant to hit the man with his family or the others…but it ended that way. Does it matter …no. But to me his mindset seemed different from a trouble teen pissed off at everyone and wanting to die, taking as many down with him as possible. Yes…it was an assignation attempt. But some news outlets said that we can’t call it that yet without the motive. As you said he was there for one thing…to kill Trump.
The cop was beign pushed up by another cop. He was holding onto something and pulling himself up when he saw the gun, and let go..

There was not time to shoot the cop.. And he started shooting before he was ready, probably why he missed and his shots were off..
 
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We still have a lot of questions about the Trump assassination attempt, and the Feds are only making this more confusing. The Secret Service is pointing their fingers at the locals and the locals are pointing their fingers back. Now a local Pennsylvania station is reporting that local law enforcement spotted Crooks nearly HALF AN HOUR BEFORE the shooting and called it in. Why wasn’t any action taken? The FBI somehow says they still don’t have a motive. The Pittsburgh FBI Field Office is running point on this investigation- the same field office that buried the Biden bribery tip in Ukraine. And Secret Service Director Kim Cheatle says she won’t resign, but will do an internal investigation. How do we know her internal investigation isn’t going to be a cover-up? Under her watch, the Secret Service destroyed their texts from January 6 and blew up the White House cocaine.
What really stinks is the idea that this kid walked all the way from his van with a rifle and a ladder, with no help. He had permission to be there. There is no other way.
What do you think

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What??

What do you think.

Turns out the local counter sniper team was inside the building where Thomas Matthew Crooks, the shooter who tried to assassinate Trump, climbed on and opened fire. So basically law enforcement let the shooter get on the roof, knew about him being there before Trump got on stage, and then they let him open fire on President Trump and his supporters. Looks like these local snipers need to be charged. This is UNACCEPTABLE. This was an inside job. How are these officers not being interrogated and charged? They basically let it all happen.
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The site was named as a major area that needed to be secure the day before. The duty was given to local police.. There was lack of communication. and evidently a lack of will power or motivation by the locals.

Megyn Kelly had two experts on her show yesterday, one with inside knowledge.. It was a huge failure.. But we will probably never know the truth.
Those who control the narrative control the truth - THE TRUTH IS WHAT I SAY IT IS. We have seen this time and time again from the MSM and a weaponised DOJ.
 

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What??

What do you think.


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this is why the counter Sniper person on the roof hesitated, You see him take his eye off of the site, and look to get a view of the target. He knew there was a sniper team there, so he needed to make sure before he took a shot. By the time he looked back to the site, the target took a few shots. it all happened that fast.

The team in the building should have been on the roof. period..
 
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The conversation has moved on but I wanted to respond to your reply. I get that he was there to shoot Trump, but to me it’s significant that he didn’t take a shot at the policeman instead spared from shooting at him. Honestly I know little about politics. But with all the shootings in todays world, a lot in schools….this young man’s actions didn’t fit the regular of shooting everything in sight once the he starts shooting. Like the other shootings in public places…he held off when he could have killed the cop then turned on the crowd and Trump. I’m not sure then he ever meant to hit the man with his family or the others…but it ended that way. Does it matter …no. But to me his mindset seemed different from a trouble teen pissed off at everyone and wanting to die, taking as many down with him as possible. Yes…it was an assignation attempt. But some news outlets said that we can’t call it that yet without the motive. As you said he was there for one thing…to kill Trump.
If he'd have shot the cop he would have garnered the attention of the SS that should have seen him already.

He'd have been dead before he could pull the trigger on Trump.
 
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The rooftop was a known vulnerability before the event, according to NBC News, which cited two sources familiar with Secret Service operations.

Mr Russell said it was probable that Secret Service agents identified that building as a threat, and had requested local authorities to station officers nearby to prevent access.

“For whatever reason, that didn’t happen,” he said.


One witness, Thomas Gleason, who served 21 years with the US Army as paratrooper and ranger, said "there should have been greater security for a long-range threat".

"Looking at the distance and vantage point, if someone is going to try to assassinate [Trump] that would have been the most logical shooting point," he said.

The FBI has since taken over the role of lead investigator into the incident, and the shooting is now the subject of several other investigations by both the House and the Senate.

Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas called it a “failure” of security, telling CNN that "an incident like this cannot happen again".
 

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He had explosives in his vehicle.. they assume he expected to live then would blow some people up??

Its funny, the FBI said they can't access his phone.. Are they afraid someone will be implicated?
He could have planned to detonate his car in the midst of the departing crowd members leaving the rally in a hurry had he not been seen and shot.

Or,and we likely will never know this, he could have known he'd never live through this and had an accomplice to drive the car into the fleeing crowd to set it off .
 
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If he'd have shot the cop he would have garnered the attention of the SS that should have seen him already.

He'd have been dead before he could pull the trigger on Trump.
Makes sense. It helped to watch the video another member shared on where snippers were positioned , and he also touched on the police officer coming up and how that all went down.
 
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yeah,

I asked for proof. crickets.

I think he just wants to cause division himself.. as if both people are in error..

Yeah, I've always believed that the best way to cause division is to call for a reduction in divisive rhetoric from both sides.

Btw,

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"KNOCK THE CRAP OUT OF THEM, WOULD YOU? OKAY? SERIOUSLY, JUST KNOCK THE HELL.. I PROMISE YOU, I WILL PAY FOR THE LEGAL FEES, I PROMISE."

But he didn't really mean it, right?

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this is why the counter Sniper person on the roof hesitated, You see him take his eye off of the site, and look to get a view of the target. He knew there was a sniper team there, so he needed to make sure before he took a shot. By the time he looked back to the site, the target took a few shots. it all happened that fast.

The team in the building should have been on the roof. period..
The secret service should be in charge of the president's security from all angles. Depending on local teams is an operations vulnerability as this attempted assassination demonstrated.
 

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The secret service should be in charge of the president's security from all angles. Depending on local teams is an operations vulnerability as this attempted assassination demonstrated.
Yep, I agree.. I hear they asked for more agents and were denied.. from some of the ones we saw. Not even sure the ones he had were competent..
 

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Yeah, I've always believed that the best way to cause division is to call for a reduction in divisive rhetoric from both sides.

Btw,

Screenshot-2024-07-16-11-53-30-74-4641ebc0df1485bf6b47ebd018b5ee76.jpg


"KNOCK THE CRAP OUT OF THEM, WOULD YOU? OKAY? SERIOUSLY, JUST KNOCK THE HELL.. I PROMISE YOU, I WILL PAY FOR THE LEGAL FEES, I PROMISE."

But he didn't really mean it, right?

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I see a picture and a few words. No actual video and no context.. I have seen enough of people pulling others out of context to last me a lifetime..
 

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I see a picture and a few words. No actual video and no context.. I have seen enough of people pulling others out of context to last me a lifetime..

You need context for "Knock the hell/crap out of them."

Well, I knew, at least, that going right to the top of the food chain would spare us all a lot of unnecessary equivocating and skullduggery.

So, here's your context:


That's right—he wanted his loyal followers to do extensive bodily harm to folks for—wait for it—THROWING TOMATOES.

So, what do we have next? "Well, that was 8 years ago" or "I don't like that leftist YouTube channel."

Remember, now, this is all because I thought it might be a good idea to have a "kinder, gentler America" and made the mistake of saying so, and the cries of "They started it!" immediately ensued.

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You need context for "Knock the hell/crap out of them."

Well, I knew, at least, that going right to the top of the food chain would spare us all a lot of unnecessary equivocating and skullduggery.

So, here's your context:


That's right—he wanted his loyal followers to do extensive bodily harm to folks for—wait for it—THROWING TOMATOES.

So, what do we have next? "Well, that was 8 years ago" or "I don't like that leftist YouTube channel."

Remember, now, this is all because I thought it might be a good idea to have a "kinder, gentler America" and made the mistake of saying so, and the cries of "They started it!" immediately ensued.

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lol what a Joke.

You compair people telling us to kill others. to take them out. That rioting and destroying cities, and trying to burn them down. to someone saying if you see someone who is going to throw something at someone else. Take action. knock them out.

maybe I would not have went that far. I would just say tackle them and get security. But still. what a joke man.. You proved my point for me.. You could not find anything of real substance, you had to bring this out.

Yeah whatever man.. Keep thinking you are wanting peace
 

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lol what a Joke.

You compair people telling us to kill others. to take them out. That rioting and destroying cities, and trying to burn them down. to someone saying if you see someone who is going to throw something at someone else. Take action. knock them out.

maybe I would not have went that far. I would just say tackle them and get security. But still. what a joke man.. You proved my point for me.. You could not find anything of real substance, you had to bring this out.

Yeah whatever man.. Keep thinking you are wanting peace

So it's clear that no amount or quality of evidence that conservative expression could encourage violence would satisfy you. Fair enough.

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The rooftop was a known vulnerability before the event, according to NBC News, which cited two sources familiar with Secret Service operations.

Mr Russell said it was probable that Secret Service agents identified that building as a threat, and had requested local authorities to station officers nearby to prevent access.

“For whatever reason, that didn’t happen,” he said.

One witness, Thomas Gleason, who served 21 years with the US Army as paratrooper and ranger, said "there should have been greater security for a long-range threat".

"Looking at the distance and vantage point, if someone is going to try to assassinate [Trump] that would have been the most logical shooting point," he said.

The FBI has since taken over the role of lead investigator into the incident, and the shooting is now the subject of several other investigations by both the House and the Senate.

Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas called it a “failure” of security, telling CNN that "an incident like this cannot happen again".
How does Mayorkas live with himself?
 

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lol what a Joke.

You compair people telling us to kill others. to take them out. That rioting and destroying cities, and trying to burn them down. to someone saying if you see someone who is going to throw something at someone else. Take action. knock them out.

maybe I would not have went that far. I would just say tackle them and get security. But still. what a joke man.. You proved my point for me.. You could not find anything of real substance, you had to bring this out.

Yeah whatever man.. Keep thinking you are wanting peace
It's the mystery of lawlessness that lead to rebellious and destructive civil unrest. These people think calls to keep law and order with violence is in some way comparable. But notice it is the latter group who get railroaded by the authorities.