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MatthewG

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please , that is the topic . i been watching you twist stuff .
No, the topic is in the original post. Otherwise you are just commenting to belittle and undermine. You'll have to go on somewhere else and do that sir.
 

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@amigo de christo , do you have anything to share about the topic? If you wanna address the topic me and Ronald was talking about.

Do you believe the people addressed in Thess, were lied too? Misquoting scriptures, typically also leaves out the original audience.
Please go read the bible for yourself mathew . you seem to have no problem reading a lot of other stuff
and learning what others say . Just read it , the bible , for yourself .
By grace i have done this for over eighteen years . OH it will become very clear in time my friend .
You see me as the enemy and the hater , of which i am neither .
But you are teaching some deadly things mathew . Just start over , PLEASE , in the bible for you and love it .
 
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Please go read the bible for yourself mathew . you seem to have no problem reading a lot of other stuff
and learning what others say . Just read it , the bible , for yourself .
By grace i have done this for over eighteen years . OH it will become very clear in time my friend .
You see me as the enemy and the hater , of which i am neither .
But you are teaching some deadly things mathew . Just start over , PLEASE , in the bible for you and love it .

You typically talk down to other people. I do not see you as anything but a man that does that. You're still a brother in christ. Don't feel so persecuted, which you like to pull out a lot... too I call it the persecution card.
 

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You typically talk down to other people. I do not see you as anything but a man that does that. You're still a brother in christ. Don't feel so persecuted.
I have watched you my friend . and believe me , you go after folks far more than i do .
You accuse far more than i do .
Its just when folks dont agree with you , you take it too darn personal . mathew
if i took it personally when folks didnt agree with me , I would be one mean monster . cause most dont .
I just try and get folks back into the bible for themselves . AND YES i do expose false things . Its not a crime
its not even hateful to expose what is false and errenous . its a darn good thing to do so .
 
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MatthewG

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I have watched you my friend . and believe me , you go after folks far more than i do .
You accuse far more than i do .
Its just when folks dont agree with you , you take it too darn personal . mathew
if i took it personally when folks didnt agree with me , I would be one mean monster . cause most dont .
I just try and get folks back into the bible for themselves . AND YES i do expose false things . Its not a crime
its not even hateful to expose what is false and errenous . its a darn good thing to do so .


Stop watching me. That's weird and scary and stalkerish. Don't be so weird like that man. What's wrong with you?
 
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You typically talk down to other people. I do not see you as anything but a man that does that. You're still a brother in christ. Don't feel so persecuted, which you like to pull out a lot... too I call it the persecution card.
i just watched you accuse ronald too . you take correction far too personal mathew . way too personal and get
way to easily offended too .
 
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You think stalking is funny? @amigo de christo That's a serious crime.


Stalking is a serious crime that can be a felony or misdemeanor. All 50 states have criminal laws against stalking.
 
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Stop watching me. That's weird and scary and stalkerish. Don't be so weird like that man. What's wrong with you.
i do have to admit my friend that was kinda funny . i mean i actually had a chuckle on that one .
now look again at what you wrote and called me mathrew . WEIRD ,
who accuses mathew . You do .
 
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i do have to admit my friend that was kinda funny . i mean i actually had a chuckle on that one .
Well it's an offense on people's mentality, and could lead to harm of a physical attack if they wanted it to go that far, (the stalker.)
 

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You were the one saying you been watching me, don't try to gaslight me @amigo de christo. I hate to have to do all this on forum publically, for all to see but yeah man, if you wanna address the topic at hand by all means, but don't come up in my thread trying to belittle me.
 

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You were the one saying you been watching me, don't try to gaslight me @amigo de christo. I hate to have to do all this on forum publically, for all to see but yeah man, if you wanna address the topic at hand by all means, but don't come up in my thread trying to belittle me.
Belittle . you mean correct . there you go again . learn to not take things so personal mathew .
my goodness that is how free speech is going to be silenced . everone plays the victim card
and makes the one who corrects seem as the oppresor , belittler , or etc .
 
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Belittle . you mean correct . there you go again . learn to not take things so personal mathew .
my goodness that is how free speech is going to be silenced . everone plays the victim card
and makes the one who corrects seem as the oppresor , belittler , or etc .
Bro...

You have some issues.

I do too.


Gaslighting definition Gaslighting is considered a criminal offense1234. In 2015, the Serious Crime Act created an offense of controlling or coercive behavior, which protects victims from extreme psychological and emotional abuse13. Gaslighting can also be considered a form of psychological abuse, which is a crime in many jurisdictions4

They then dismiss their valid worries as “crazy” or “sensitive” until the person is confused and vulnerable. Google searches of the word have gradually crept up in recent months, and the tactic is incredibly common according to Penny East, a spokeswoman for the charity SafeLives told The Independent.

 
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Well what you believe and what I believe about things are completely separate from each other. Like the whole 1,000 years to me it’s 40. It’s illogical to you, but not to me.
Smetimes we cannot understand what the true mesage of the Scriptures are until we hear the correct explanation from somebody else, and then suddenly it becomes clear (as the Holy Spirit helps us to understand it, once we have heard the truthful explanation). That is why sharing what we believe may occasionally help somebody else to understand something from Scripture that they previously didn't. We need to let our light shine!

Acts 8:30-38 (WEB):
(29) The Spirit said to Philip, “Go near, and join yourself to this chariot.”​
(30) Philip ran to him, and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet, and said, “Do you understand what you are reading?”​
(31) He said, “How can I, unless someone explains it to me?” He begged Philip to come up and sit with him.​
(32) Now the passage of the Scripture which he was reading was this, “He was led as a sheep to the slaughter. As a lamb before his shearer is silent, so he doesn’t open his mouth.​
(33) In his humiliation, his judgment was taken away. Who will declare His generation? For his life is taken from the earth.”​
(34) The eunuch answered Philip, “Who is the prophet talking about? About himself, or about someone else?”​
(35) Philip opened his mouth, and beginning from this Scripture, preached to him about Jesus.​
(36) As they went on the way, they came to some water, and the eunuch said, “Behold, here is water. What is keeping me from being baptized?”​
(38) He commanded the chariot to stand still, and they both went down into the water, both Philip and the eunuch, and he baptized him.​

We can't learn and understand everything about the Scriptures in a day, but there is alway more we can learn from Scripture throughout our lives. Proverbs 4:18 (WEB):

(18) But the path of the righteous is like the dawning light, that shines more and more until the perfect day.​

Sure, I’m sure Yahvah by his spirit can guide us to truth over man.
Psalms 25:4-5 (WEB):
(4) Show me your ways, Yahweh. Teach me your paths.​
(5) Guide me in your truth, and teach me, For you are the God of my salvation, I wait for you all day long.​

I've learnt some new things since reading and participating in this forum, and I appreciate those posters that posted that information - it's a delight to learn new understandings of God's word. Some things I used to believe I now realise were incorrect;
For example, it was through what I read in this forum that I was led to discover the correct pronunciation of God's name - Yahavah!
 
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Smetimes we cannot understand what the true mesage of the Scriptures are until we hear the correct explanation from somebody else, and then suddenly it becomes clear (as the Holy Spirit helps us to understand it, once we have heard the truthful explanation). That is why sharing what we believe may occasionally help somebody else to understand something from Scripture that they previously didn't. We need to let our light shine!
The only hope is that it's Jesus Christ light that is shining through us.
Acts 8:30-38 (WEB):
(29) The Spirit said to Philip, “Go near, and join yourself to this chariot.”​
(30) Philip ran to him, and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet, and said, “Do you understand what you are reading?”​
(31) He said, “How can I, unless someone explains it to me?” He begged Philip to come up and sit with him.​
(32) Now the passage of the Scripture which he was reading was this, “He was led as a sheep to the slaughter. As a lamb before his shearer is silent, so he doesn’t open his mouth.​
(33) In his humiliation, his judgment was taken away. Who will declare His generation? For his life is taken from the earth.”​
(34) The eunuch answered Philip, “Who is the prophet talking about? About himself, or about someone else?”​
(35) Philip opened his mouth, and beginning from this Scripture, preached to him about Jesus.​
(36) As they went on the way, they came to some water, and the eunuch said, “Behold, here is water. What is keeping me from being baptized?”​
(38) He commanded the chariot to stand still, and they both went down into the water, both Philip and the eunuch, and he baptized him.​

We can't learn and understand everything about the Scriptures in a day, but there is alway more we can learn from Scripture throughout our lives. Proverbs 4:18 (WEB):

(18) But the path of the righteous is like the dawning light, that shines more and more until the perfect day.​


Psalms 25:4-5 (WEB):
(4) Show me your ways, Yahweh. Teach me your paths.​
(5) Guide me in your truth, and teach me, For you are the God of my salvation, I wait for you all day long.​


For example, it was through what I read in this forum that I was led to discover the correct pronunciation of God's name - Yahavah!
You can learn about the greek words, concerning generation, and there is a scripture concerning 40 speaking of a generation.


Num_32:13 And the LORD'S anger was kindled against Israel, and he made them wander in the wilderness forty years, until all the generation, that had done evil in the sight of the LORD, was consumed.

May the Holy Spirit of Yahavah guide you.

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Jesus promised total destruction, within 40 years of the generation he was standing within.
 

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@Ronald Nolette i don’t understand.

People die and are resurrected and meet up with Jesus as far as I know, or well faithfully believe. Then set in their destined place, outside or inside the city. Many just say their relatives are just laying in the grave still, waiting for that day.
Peoples bodies are waiting for the day. You can exhume teh graves of every Christian and you will find their physical remains still there. Why? Because the rapture has not happened yet.
 

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Peoples bodies are waiting for the day. You can exhume teh graves of every Christian and you will find their physical remains still there. Why? Because the rapture has not happened yet.
This is also something where we differ. While I believe their was a resurrection of people out of the graves when Yeshua had resurrected. That was to tell the tale of overcoming death. Even with Yeshua, he had to use the same body otherwise they would have never seen that he overcame death...

I do believe that when we die, we raise spiritually resurrected.

1 Corinthians 15:42-44 New International Version 42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.


But that is between you and yourself in what you believe about that sir. It in the end doesn't effect my life whether you believe I am wrong or right.

Just sharing and hope that the Holy Spirit leads people to truth, and not just our remarks.