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IronMaiden

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We are birthed by the Holy Spirit, we must be Born Again.

How do you know Jesus is who he says he is?

I mean, if you post that the Lord gives you eternal security ,then you must be able to explain what that means?
There’s no way that a person can be born again without knowing Jesus.
 

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There’s no way that a person can be born again without knowing Jesus.
You can’t know who Jesus was in your spirit, unless it’s Born Again, by the Living witness Gods seed,His Living Holy Spirit..thats who births our spirit.
I asked you a question, ?

No one can come to Jesus unless the Father draws them.

Can you answer my Spirit questions please that I asked further up?

Here they are again.

We are birthed by the Holy Spirit, we must be Born Again.then we have eternal security, yes or no?

How do you know Jesus is who he says he is?

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It’s the LORD who gives eternal security.
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I mean, if you post that the Lord gives you eternal security ,then you must be able to explain what that means?
 
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Ritajanice

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@LatterRain .

You say you believe in Jesus.please tell me how you know that Jesus existed ?

Plus how do you know God, by whose witness?

God is Spirit yes ?

How would you know that God is Spirit, just by reading your Bible @LatterRain ?
 
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Ritajanice, it seems you don’t know who Jesus is.
It seems you don’t understand the rebirth,

I ask you x 3 how do you know Jesus, by whose witness?

Where in you do you know that Jesus truly existed and by whose witness?

Please tell me how you know that Jesus walked the earth, died and was resurrected?

Just by reading your Bible @LatterRain ?

Do you only know Jesus of the Bible @LatterRain ?

How do you think I came to know that Jesus is, who he says he is,just by me reading my Bible @LatterRain ?
 
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It seems you don’t understand the rebirth,

I ask you x 3 how do you know Jesus, by whose witness?

Where in you do you know that Jesus truly existed and by whose witness?

Please tell me how you know that Jesus walked the earth, died and was resurrected?

Just by reading your Bible @LatterRain ?

Do you only know Jesus of the Bible @LatterRain ?
Romans 10:8-13 (NKJV) 8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith which we preach): 9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. 13 For “whoever calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved.”
 

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Romans 10:8-13 (NKJV) 8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith which we preach): 9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. 13 For “whoever calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved.”
Posting scripture doesn’t answer my question .

How do you know that God raised Jesus from the dead?

Posting scripture is not enough, anyone can do that.

So I ask you again..how do you know that God raised Jesus from the dead?

You need to interpret and explain that scripture please?

How do you know that you are Born Again?

You aren’t Born Again by posting scripture @LatterRain ...
 

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Posting scripture doesn’t answer my question .

How do you know that God raised Jesus from the dead?

Posting scripture is not enough, anyone can do that.

So I ask you again..how do you know that God raised Jesus from the dead?

You need to interpret and explain that scripture please?
You need to read and study His Word, the Bible. How else do you expect to learn about Jesus? How can you have faith if you don’t know Jesus?
 

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You need to read and study His Word, the Bible. How else do you expect to learn about Jesus?
You need to understand that the Bible , does not bring your spirit Alive..still no questions answered.can you answer my questions?
Do you understand the Living Spiritual rebirth?

Are you aware @LatterRain ..that you don’t need to read a Bible to be birthed in the Spirit?

I suggest that you ask God for divine, heart revelation...you only quote the Bible from what I have been reading so far.

Do you understand spiritual matters?..where once we are Born Again, we have spirit eyes to see with and ears to hear with, why do you think that is?

You need to know of Jesus in your heart my friend...Spirit give birth to spirit.

No one can say Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit.

God is not contained in the Bible, he is a Living Spirit and is everywhere.
 
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2 Timothy 2:15 (NKJV) Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Yep, you gotta study, Rita. In a nutshell.

Tell me, why is it that you don’t know Jesus?
 

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2 Timothy 2:15 (NKJV) Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Yep, you gotta study, Rita. In a nutshell.

Tell me, why is it that you don’t know Jesus?
You’re the one who doesn’t seem to know Jesus in your heart/ spirit. it seems you only know Jesus in the Bible.

Do you know of him in your heart / spirit?

That’s where you must know him first and foremost ..why do you think we need to be Born Of The Spirit?

Your spirit must be Born Again, otherwise it seems you are leading yourself through scripture.
 

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We are birthed by the Holy Spirit, we must be Born Again.

We have been Born Again of imperishable seed, whose the Living seed that we are Born of?
How do you know Jesus is who he says he is?

I mean, if you post that the Lord gives you eternal security ,then you must be able to explain what that means?
 

Ritajanice

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Flesh gives birth to flesh= human birth.

Spirit gives birth to spirit = A Living spirit birth...you don’t need any bible reading for that to happen ,it’s supernatural, only Gods witness His Living Holy Spirit can perform that supernatural act, just as His word confirms.

Hebrews 4:12. ESV For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart. NIV For the word of God is alive and active
 

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Yes there is a trap being put in place here, there is a move to get the writings of Paul removed because they speak out against the gays which is a problem to many. Like the book of Proverbs there is a move to get rid of it. The idea is to promote a God the people like not endorse the God that is.
 
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Yes there is a trap being put in place here, there is a move to get the writings of Paul removed because they speak out against the gays which is a problem to many. Like the book of Proverbs there is a move to get rid of it. The idea is to promote a God the people like not endorse the God that is.
Yes, and anyway, there’s only one gospel, the gospel of the Savior of the world. It’s a silly argument to begin with.
 

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Yep, you gotta study, Rita. In a nutshell.
You need to pray for divine heart revelation ,without that, all your doing is quoting scripture from your own understanding..you need to be Born Again for the Spirit to lead you and bring you to understanding the scriptures,

My question is @LatterRain , why do you have no understanding of who Jesus is, in your heart/ spirit?

If you have been Born Again of imperishable seed?..

Where does the seed of God remain in you?

Tell me, why is it that you don’t know Jesus?
You do not need to study to know Jesus.

You should know Jesus in your heart/ spirit, from the moment you became Born Of The Spirit.

It seems to me, that you only know Jesus by reading your Bible?

The Bible can and never will give birth to your spirit, no matter how many times you read it.

Study my friend does not give you divine heart revelation. The Bible explains divine heart revelation...something you seem to have no knowledge of.

Spirit gives birth to spirit = divine heart revelation.

Born of the Spirit = divine heart revelation.

The list goes on!
 
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REPENT.... = turn to God"... means to turn from UNBELIEF.. (repent from unbelief) and turn = to FAITH in God.. .and this is specifically done like this..

Repent means turn to God in submission to Him.


If we are called to turn to God then by default we are called to turn away from Satan as our lord.

I will deliver you from the Jewish people, as well as from the Gentiles, to whom I now send you, to open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and
from the power of Satan to God,




The way we obey this command of the Gospel to repent is to confess Jesus as our LORD.