THE TWO GOSPEL HERESY

[St. SteVen]

Man,what a party pooper that Jesus is.
He preached what paul preached.

Jesus being "the way, the truth, and the life" was not a part of Paul's gospel.

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[rebuilder 454]

What is the supposed two gospel heresy then?

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show me 2 gospels.
Show them both to me.
Show me pauls superior Gospel
Then the inferior one by James,Peter,John, and Jesus.Remember, all 5 men were speaking under the guidence of the Holy Spirit.

The term "born again" was not part of Paul's gospel.

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Paul was a born again believer.
Are you?

 

[rebuilder 454]

Jesus being "the way, the truth, and the life" was not a part of Paul's gospel.

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Oh ok.
Who would have thought Paul had a different savior.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Peter told those JEWS....the Leadership.... that there is no Salvation, in any other...

You read it.

Now, where did Peter tell them to BELIEVE ? To "Call on the name of Jesus"? To Put their FAITH, in Christ?

A.) NOWHERE.

THat's missing., because the "preaching of the Cross", that is "all who call on the name of Jesus, shall be saved".. .came from Paul.

Now, go to Acts 10, and read where God had to give Peter a Vision, because Peter didnt know, didn't understand that THE CROSS OF CHRIST is for EVERYONE.....(Gentiles also).

THen go to Acts 15, and find that Peter met Paul and learned from Paul what you need to learn, @rebuilder 454

., because the "preaching of the Cross", that is "all who call on the name of Jesus, shall be saved".. .came from Paul.

Acts 2
14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words...
36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Man, dont you hate that Peter preaching to Jews and GENTILES invoked the cross????
The nerve of Peter to not ask Paul about that.

 

[Behold]

lol. In 30 seconds I found this;
Acts 2
14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice,....
21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Ahem...WAY before Paul

Yet, In Acts 10..... Peter does not know that Gentiles can be "saved".

Read it.

Then turn to Acts 9..... and Jesus, in Heaven... is calling Paul.., = explaining his Ministry.

Then read Galatians 1:12, and Paul said that the Revelation, that is Paul's Gospel, came from Jesus...

Now read Galatians 1:8, that says that any other Gospel, other then Paul's... is not True.,

Then read 2 Timothy 2, and notice that Paul says..>"My Gospel"..

So, this is a Specific "Gospel", that is "The preaching of the Cross'... ... not just "call on his name".....

Notice, that if you dont know that Jesus is LORD.. then how can you "call on His Name"... so.. do unbelievers KNOW That JESUS is LORD?

A.) Nope

You are not thinking, @rebuilder 454 .. you are just reacting.

Listen...

So, "in the time of the Gentiles" the True Gospel, is Paul's Gospel... its is.. """""For the Preaching of THE CROSS << is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God..""

That is the Gospel that is PAUL's.

Notice that there is no "CROSS" in Peter's statement....

Here is the thing you are missing..

Peter said..... "all that call on the name of the Lord"...

See that?
But He does not explain it......... He does not explain why you do that... or why its related to being forgiven your sin, which is why Jesus is ON THE CROSS <.

See it yet ??? @rebuilder 454


LIsten, walk up to someone on the Street and say....>>""call on the name of Jesus and you shall be saved".

See if that works.
It wont.
Why not?
Because they dont know WHY they are doing it.. THey will say..>>"saved from what"... "from male pattern baldness"? "From Biden's WW3? From "Tooth decay"?

Saved FROM WHAT ?????????????>......as PETER DOES NOT TELL YOU>..

Understand yet?

See, the Gospel, that is PAUL's, explains that Jesus is dying for you a SINNER, and on the CROSS Jesus is paying for your sin... and then He died, and rose again, for your justification.

YOU DONT SEE THAT in What Peter said, unless you filter it through what PAUL teaches...

 

[rebuilder 454]

You are describing yourself.




No verse in a bible teaches what you just posted.

To begin with, there was no 'NT Church", when Jesus was on earth, so, No "gospel"

Later, after Jesus's Cross created the " NT Church"... Jesus gave to Paul, the "Gospel"

Eventually, in Acts 15, Peter learned the Gospel from Paul.

rebuilder 454 said:
"If you own a bible ,please note that the Gospel to the gentiles was revealed to Peter years before Paul ever became a believer."
behold replies;
"No verse in a bible teaches what you just posted."

Acts8
1 And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles.
2 And devout men carried Stephen to his burial, and made great lamentation over him.
3 As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed them to prison.
4 Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word.

5 Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them.

HUH???
before Paul????

25 And they, (Ahem...that included PETER)...when they (Ahem...again, that included PETER)...had testified and preached the word of the Lord, returned to Jerusalem, and preached the gospel in many villages of the Samaritans.

Oh dear,it gets worse.
Now we have Phillip getting an etheopian saved
. (man where is paul?????)....not even saved yet.

acts 8
34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?
35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.

 

[rebuilder 454]

rebuilder 454 said:
"If you own a bible ,please note that the Gospel to the gentiles was revealed to Peter years before Paul ever became a believer."

behold replies;
"No verse in a bible teaches what you just posted."

acts 10
(now remember Paul was not in ministry yet.)

23.....And on the morrow Peter went away with them, and certain brethren from Joppa accompanied him.
24 And the morrow after they entered into Caesarea. And Cornelius waited for them, and he had called together his kinsmen and near friends. GENTILES
28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.
( So here Is PETER talking that the Gospel is going to the gentiles THROUGH HIMSELF, PETER)
AHEM, before PAUL EVEN ENTERS MINISTRY.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Yet, In Acts 10..... Peter does not know that Gentiles can be "saved".

Read it.

Then turn to Acts 9..... and Jesus, in Heaven... is calling Paul.., = explaining his Ministry.

Then read Galatians 1:12, and Paul said that the Revelation, that is Paul's Gospel, came from Jesus...

Now read Galatians 1:8, that says that any other Gospel, other then Paul's... is not True.,

Then read 2 Timothy 2, and notice that Paul says..>"My Gospel"..

So, this is a Specific "Gospel", that is "The preaching of the Cross'... ... not just "call on his name".....

Notice, that if you dont know that Jesus is LORD.. then how can you "call on His Name"... so.. do unbelievers KNOW That JESUS is LORD?

A.) Nope

You are not thinking, @rebuilder 454 .. you are just reacting.

Listen...

So, "in the time of the Gentiles" the True Gospel, is Paul's Gospel... its is.. """""For the Preaching of THE CROSS << is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God..""

That is the Gospel that is PAUL's.

Notice that there is no "CROSS" in Peter's statement....

Here is the thing you are missing..

Peter said..... "all that call on the name of the Lord"...

See that?
But He does not explain it......... He does not explain why you do that... or why its related to being forgiven your sin, which is why Jesus is ON THE CROSS <.

See it yet ??? @rebuilder 454


LIsten, walk up to someone on the Street and say....>>""call on the name of Jesus and you shall be saved".

See if that works.
It wont.
Why not?
Because they dont know WHY they are doing it.. THey will say..>>"saved from what"... "from male pattern baldness"? "From Biden's WW3? From "Tooth decay"?

Saved FROM WHAT ?????????????>......as PETER DOES NOT TELL YOU>..

Understand yet?

See, the Gospel, that is PAUL's, explains that Jesus is dying for you a SINNER, and on the CROSS Jesus is paying for your sin... and then He died, and rose again, for your justification.

YOU DONT SEE THAT in What Peter said, unless you filter it through what PAUL teaches...

Yet, In Acts 10..... Peter does not know that Gentiles can be "saved".

lol
You got zero friend. ACTS 10 shows you the gospel to the gentiles came first through Peter.

I guess under your theory you can go ahead and discredit Paul as well, as he had to be shown the same thing.
but you are plain off in left field that Paul was the only one that preached the gospel.
Tell me was paul inspired by the Holy Spirit???
Was Peter???
Was it a different Holy Spirit that led Peter into a different gospel?
Your doctrine suggests that very thing.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Yet, In Acts 10..... Peter does not know that Gentiles can be "saved".

Read it.

Then turn to Acts 9..... and Jesus, in Heaven... is calling Paul.., = explaining his Ministry.

Then read Galatians 1:12, and Paul said that the Revelation, that is Paul's Gospel, came from Jesus...

Now read Galatians 1:8, that says that any other Gospel, other then Paul's... is not True.,

Then read 2 Timothy 2, and notice that Paul says..>"My Gospel"..

So, this is a Specific "Gospel", that is "The preaching of the Cross'... ... not just "call on his name".....

Notice, that if you dont know that Jesus is LORD.. then how can you "call on His Name"... so.. do unbelievers KNOW That JESUS is LORD?

A.) Nope

You are not thinking, @rebuilder 454 .. you are just reacting.

Listen...

So, "in the time of the Gentiles" the True Gospel, is Paul's Gospel... its is.. """""For the Preaching of THE CROSS << is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God..""

That is the Gospel that is PAUL's.

Notice that there is no "CROSS" in Peter's statement....

Here is the thing you are missing..

Peter said..... "all that call on the name of the Lord"...

See that?
But He does not explain it......... He does not explain why you do that... or why its related to being forgiven your sin, which is why Jesus is ON THE CROSS <.

See it yet ??? @rebuilder 454


LIsten, walk up to someone on the Street and say....>>""call on the name of Jesus and you shall be saved".

See if that works.
It wont.
Why not?
Because they dont know WHY they are doing it.. THey will say..>>"saved from what"... "from male pattern baldness"? "From Biden's WW3? From "Tooth decay"?

Saved FROM WHAT ?????????????>......as PETER DOES NOT TELL YOU>..

Understand yet?

See, the Gospel, that is PAUL's, explains that Jesus is dying for you a SINNER, and on the CROSS Jesus is paying for your sin... and then He died, and rose again, for your justification.

YOU DONT SEE THAT in What Peter said, unless you filter it through what PAUL teaches...

So, this is a Specific "Gospel", that is "The preaching of the Cross'... ... not just "call on his name".....

Notice, that if you dont know that Jesus is LORD.. then how can you "call on His Name"... so.. do unbelievers KNOW That JESUS is LORD?

acts 16
29 Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas,
30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

You just flat dont know what in the world you are talking about.

Was Paul born again??
YES OR NO???

LIsten, walk up to someone on the Street and say....>>""call on the name of Jesus and you shall be saved".

SMH

acts 16

Yet, In Acts 10..... Peter does not know that Gentiles can be "saved".

Read it.

Then turn to Acts 9..... and Jesus, in Heaven... is calling Paul.., = explaining his Ministry.

Then read Galatians 1:12, and Paul said that the Revelation, that is Paul's Gospel, came from Jesus...

Now read Galatians 1:8, that says that any other Gospel, other then Paul's... is not True.,

Then read 2 Timothy 2, and notice that Paul says..>"My Gospel"..

So, this is a Specific "Gospel", that is "The preaching of the Cross'... ... not just "call on his name".....

Notice, that if you dont know that Jesus is LORD.. then how can you "call on His Name"... so.. do unbelievers KNOW That JESUS is LORD?

A.) Nope

You are not thinking, @rebuilder 454 .. you are just reacting.

Listen...

So, "in the time of the Gentiles" the True Gospel, is Paul's Gospel... its is.. """""For the Preaching of THE CROSS << is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God..""

That is the Gospel that is PAUL's.

Notice that there is no "CROSS" in Peter's statement....

Here is the thing you are missing..

Peter said..... "all that call on the name of the Lord"...

See that?
But He does not explain it......... He does not explain why you do that... or why its related to being forgiven your sin, which is why Jesus is ON THE CROSS <.

See it yet ??? @rebuilder 454


LIsten, walk up to someone on the Street and say....>>""call on the name of Jesus and you shall be saved".

See if that works.
It wont.
Why not?
Because they dont know WHY they are doing it.. THey will say..>>"saved from what"... "from male pattern baldness"? "From Biden's WW3? From "Tooth decay"?

Saved FROM WHAT ?????????????>......as PETER DOES NOT TELL YOU>..

Understand yet?

See, the Gospel, that is PAUL's, explains that Jesus is dying for you a SINNER, and on the CROSS Jesus is paying for your sin... and then He died, and rose again, for your justification.

YOU DONT SEE THAT in What Peter said, unless you filter it through what PAUL teaches...

Which Holy Spirit spoke through peter?
Which Holy Spirit spoke through Paul?

Your 2 different gospels have 2 Inspirations?

 

[rebuilder 454]

Paul

1 Corin 15

3 For I passed on to you as of first importance[a] what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures, 4 and that he was buried, and that he was raised up on the third day according to the scriptures

Exact same thing all the scriptures preach

All the apostles, and Jesus himself.

Here is a bonus for you.
THE OT PREACHES THE SAME MESSAGE

 

[rebuilder 454]

Its because their Jewish mindset could not deal with God's Grace that was going to be given to the GENTILE's as The Cross of Christ.

See, The Cross of Christ, started "the time of the Gentiles" that is the NT Church.

GENTILES make up most of the NT Church, not Jews., and Jesus knew that if He told them that this was coming then they would not "be able to bear it".. not be able to understand it, and would resist it.

So, Jesus sent Paul.. a JEW,.. a PHARISEE, to take the information to the Jews, and to the Gentiles.. that the original apostles could not have dealt with, at the time that Jesus walked with them.

This is why you have Acts 15, in the NT, were the original Apostles met Paul and they had a conference, and Paul explained what was going on "in the the time of the Gentiles' that included HIS GOSPEL... that is "The preaching of the Cross'. "we preach Christ Crucified"..

So, Jesus sent Paul.. a JEW,.. a PHARISEE, to take the information to the Jews, and to the Gentiles.. that the original apostles could not have dealt with, at the time that Jesus walked with them.

Hopefully you got off of that error.

So, Jesus sent Paul.. a JEW,.. a PHARISEE, to take the information to the Jews, and to the Gentiles.. that the original apostles could not have dealt with, at the time that Jesus walked with them.

..and the other apostles ,(Peter first), (that would be pre-paul), as well.
as You were shown.

 

[rebuilder 454]

You need to re read the gospels again and also John the Baptists message. It is not th esame as the church preaches.

Paul preached a different Gospel that if any other gospel (such as Peters) was delivered, Paul cursed that person.?

So is Peters message cursed?
Was the scripture inspired By the Holy Spirit?
Was peter cursed?

 

[rebuilder 454]

Yet, In Acts 10..... Peter does not know that Gentiles can be "saved".

Read it.

Then turn to Acts 9..... and Jesus, in Heaven... is calling Paul.., = explaining his Ministry.

Then read Galatians 1:12, and Paul said that the Revelation, that is Paul's Gospel, came from Jesus...

Now read Galatians 1:8, that says that any other Gospel, other then Paul's... is not True.,

Then read 2 Timothy 2, and notice that Paul says..>"My Gospel"..

So, this is a Specific "Gospel", that is "The preaching of the Cross'... ... not just "call on his name".....

Notice, that if you dont know that Jesus is LORD.. then how can you "call on His Name"... so.. do unbelievers KNOW That JESUS is LORD?

A.) Nope

You are not thinking, @rebuilder 454 .. you are just reacting.

Listen...

So, "in the time of the Gentiles" the True Gospel, is Paul's Gospel... its is.. """""For the Preaching of THE CROSS << is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God..""

That is the Gospel that is PAUL's.

Notice that there is no "CROSS" in Peter's statement....

Here is the thing you are missing..

Peter said..... "all that call on the name of the Lord"...

See that?
But He does not explain it......... He does not explain why you do that... or why its related to being forgiven your sin, which is why Jesus is ON THE CROSS <.

See it yet ??? @rebuilder 454


LIsten, walk up to someone on the Street and say....>>""call on the name of Jesus and you shall be saved".

See if that works.
It wont.
Why not?
Because they dont know WHY they are doing it.. THey will say..>>"saved from what"... "from male pattern baldness"? "From Biden's WW3? From "Tooth decay"?

Saved FROM WHAT ?????????????>......as PETER DOES NOT TELL YOU>..

Understand yet?

See, the Gospel, that is PAUL's, explains that Jesus is dying for you a SINNER, and on the CROSS Jesus is paying for your sin... and then He died, and rose again, for your justification.

YOU DONT SEE THAT in What Peter said, unless you filter it through what PAUL teaches...

Notice, that if you dont know that Jesus is LORD.. then how can you "call on His Name"... so.. do unbelievers KNOW That JESUS is LORD?

A.) Nope

You are not thinking, @rebuilder 454 .. you are just reacting.

I am powerfully refuting your deal.
Dismantling it like drawing poison from a wound.

Exposing the end game of this false doctrine.
You have 2 deities guiding and writing scripture.
One deity inspires paul
The other (inferior deity) inspires Jesus and peter.

 

[rebuilder 454]

better get brushed up on that "Pauline only ,Jesus and peter confused" deal.
That workbook can not help you.
Got bible?

 

[rebuilder 454]

In Acts 10 we find God helping Peter understand that everyone is included based on The Cross of Christ.



Paul is the "Apostle to the Gentiles" so, no other Apostle has that specific ministry.
So, because The Cross initiated "the time of the Gentiles", then "the Apostle to the Gentiles" is the ONE whom Jesus gave the "Gospel" that is specific to this situation.
This is why Paul calls the Gospel of the Grace of God... "MY Gospel". 3x in the NT.

One of the reasons that a bible student can read something that seems to contradict Paul's "justification without works"... is simply because not all the Apostle had the same the same revelation, at the same time.
So, for example, in the case of Peter, who met Paul's Gospel in Act 15... then obviously he wasn't preaching Paul's Gospel in Acts 2:38, as you can't preach or teach, what you yourself have not learned yet.

The ACTS of the Apostles is a 30 yr history, of what they did, and also when they learned..... over that 30 yrs period.

Nope,nope, nope.
acts 4

31 And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.

32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.

33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
elieved were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.

They SPOKE THROUGH THE HOLY GHOST.

your deal has them speaking some bogus doctrine and false gospel through the Holy Ghost.
You have the Holy Ghost in need of teaching by Paul.

 

[St. SteVen]

show me 2 gospels.
Show them both to me.

Show me one gospel.
It seems that you have failed to do that.

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[rebuilder 454]

Show me one gospel.
It seems that you have failed to do that.

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no sir.
It is all over my posts. Peter,Paul and Jesus.
You are not aware what the gospel is?
You really need someone to show you.?

 

[rebuilder 454]

Show me one gospel.
It seems that you have failed to do that.

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play games somewhere else.

 

[St. SteVen]

St. SteVen said:
Show me one gospel.
It seems that you have failed to do that.

no sir.
It is all over my posts. Peter,Paul and Jesus.
You are not aware what the gospel is?
You really need someone to show you.?

What's your beef with Paul and his gospel?

What about the gospel of Apollos?

1 Corinthians 3:5 NIV
What, after all, is Apollos? And what is Paul? Only servants,
through whom you came to believe—
as the Lord has assigned to each his task.

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[Fred J]

God points!

They are the word/teaching of Lord Jesus Christ, and am just an unworthy servant doing his duty.

"Building your house on a rock" is symbolic for Jesus, He is the rock. And so the people who do have Him as their foundational rock,

Jesus is the 'Rock' one thing, but His word/teaching is the 'Rock' we build our 'house on'.

A truly born again body is a 'house', also one's family is a 'house', likewise one's congregation is a 'house'.

So, every 'house' supposedly built on the word/teaching of Lord Jesus Christ the 'Rock'.

Faith cum works, hearer cum doer, believer cum abider, is the next practical step after completing discipleship in His word/teaching.

As this practical act to serve and not to be served, is as completing one's house on that 'Rock'.

build their house on the sand (all other religions and paths that lead to destruction) and they will perish.

i disagree, because Jesus is discipling every born again believers, and not unbelievers.

So that every born again believers should not be ignorant and build one's house on the right foundation.

Shalom in the name of Jesus