THE TWO GOSPEL HERESY
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St. SteVen
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What are the words of the gospel message from Jesus own lips? (chapter and verse)
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Ritajanice
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The gospel message is the good news, so whose the good news?
unless I’m misunderstanding..
His message is in the word my friend, I suggest you check it out.
His lips spread the gospel ...
What Is the Gospel? The gospel is the good news that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, died for our sins and rose again, eternally triumphant over his enemies, so that there is now no condemnation for those who believe, but only everlasting joy. That's the gospel
St. SteVen
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St. SteVen
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I quote scripture constantly.
Where do people get the idea that I haven't read the Bible? - LOL
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Behold
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St. SteVen
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Ritajanice said:
His message is in the word my friend, I suggest you check it out.
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His message is in the word my friend, I suggest you check it out.
If we rely on Jesus words to define the gospel message, there are a whole myriad of gospels.
- Matthew 13:24
Jesus told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field.
- Matthew 13:31
He told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and planted in his field.
- Matthew 13:33
He told them still another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like yeast that a woman took and mixed into about sixty pounds of flour until it worked all through the dough.”
- Matthew 13:44
“The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field. When a man found it, he hid it again, and then in his joy went and sold all he had and bought that field.
- Matthew 13:45
“Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant looking for fine pearls.
- Matthew 13:47
“Once again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net that was let down into the lake and caught all kinds of fish.
- Matthew 13:52
He said to them, “Therefore every teacher of the law who has become a disciple in the kingdom of heaven is like the owner of a house who brings out of his storeroom new treasures as well as old.”
- Matthew 18:3
And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
- Matthew 18:23
“Therefore, the kingdom of heaven is like a king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants.
- Matthew 20:1
“For the kingdom of heaven is like a landowner who went out early in the morning to hire workers for his vineyard.
- Matthew 22:2
“The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son.
- Matthew 25:1
“At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom.
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St. SteVen
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Behold
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My Threads and Posts, dont try to castigate the Holy Bible.
So, the next time you do that, i'll remind you, and then you can tell us more about your "SAW".
Ritajanice
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Not according to @rebuilder 454 ..I’m not, we’re on the same wavelength.
lets look at your idea that there was a bogus Gospel before Paul straightened everyone out.
Under your doctrine, what peter preached under the power of the Holy Spirit, has both Peter, and the Holy Spirit in error.
ACTS 4
8 Then Peter, filled with the Holy Ghost, said unto them, Ye rulers of the people, and elders of Israel,
9 If we this day be examined of the good deed done to the impotent man, by what means he is made whole;
10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
And remember, your theory that peter was untaught without Pauls true gospel, is a complete lie. This event was WAY,WAY, before Paul.
Behold
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Peter told those JEWS....the Leadership.... that there is no Salvation, in any other...
You read it.
Now, where did Peter tell them to BELIEVE ? To "Call on the name of Jesus"? To Put their FAITH, in Christ?
A.) NOWHERE.
THat's missing., because the "preaching of the Cross", that is "all who call on the name of Jesus, shall be saved".. .came from Paul.
Now, go to Acts 10, and read where God had to give Peter a Vision, because Peter didnt know, didn't understand that THE CROSS OF CHRIST is for EVERYONE.....(Gentiles also).
THen go to Acts 15, and find that Peter met Paul and learned from Paul what you need to learn, @rebuilder 454
Jesus answered, “Verily, verily I say unto thee, unless a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God.
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Read full chapter · John 14:6
Matthew 10:33 ... “But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.”
Luke 23;43 Jesus said to him, “I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise [ C heaven or the presence of God].”
Luke 9;22 Saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised the third day.
Jn 3
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Man,what a party pooper that Jesus is.
He preached what paul preached.
Must be a different Holy Spirit that spoke to peter. I showed you that the Holy Spirit was speaking through Peter.. Your double message,"2 gospels" requires two different Gods. Neither of whom are in agreement.
Behold
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Show us in your verses that you dont understand, where Jesus told anyone to Believe in Him?
You posted a verse that says that you have to be spiritually born, to enter the KOG.
:But Jesus does not tell you how.
You posted a verse that says, that you have to be born again.
But Jesus does not tell you how..
You posted a verse that says you can only come to the Father, by Jesus..
But Jesus does not tell you how..
See, its the PREACHING, that MESSAGE = the HOW TO.........that is "All that give God Their FAITH in Christ"........this is missing from Jesus's messages, because He has not Died on The Cross yet, so, the Message that is "The Preaching of the Cross".. or as Paul told you.. "WE preach Christ Crucified'..
See that MESSAGE? THat is the GOSPEL, and Jesus could not preach that, because He had not died yet.
Understand yet, ? @rebuilder 454
Behold
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Peter didnt tell anyone to Trust in Christ, in your verse.
Maybe the HS can reveal this to you?
He hasn't yet, but there is hope as you are still breathing.
Listen..
Look at this verse...
Jesus said.."ALL who believe in Me.. .i give unto YOU......Eternal LIFE, and you shall never go to HELL (Perish)".
See that?
Notice that Jesus didnt say anything about FORGIVING YOUR SIN ? And that is what He is doing on The CROSS...
Understand @rebuilder 454 ?
So, PAUL received THAT Gospel.......that is dealing with SIN, and THE CROSS......... after Jesus was back in Heaven, as that is the GOSPEL of the GRACE OF GOD, that is "Paul's Gospel".
Jesus never preached it, and Peter didnt know it until Acts 15, that is 15 yrs after Jesus is back in Heaven.
St. SteVen
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St. SteVen
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lol. In 30 seconds I found this;
Acts 2
14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice,....
21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Ahem...WAY before Paul
