You disagree with the Bible.
Proverbs 16:6 says,
“…by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil.”
The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.
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You disagree with the Bible.
Proverbs 16:6 says,
“…by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil.”
In the real world, I am NOTHING like you see in here...the biggest problem people have with me outside of this place is getting me to be “serious” for five minutes......I have been retired for several years and I have a number of places where I loaf during the Day and I spend my time flitting about these different places and making people laugh, finding ways to compliment people and generally just trying to be kind to people, and especially those that I think need it most
I don’t have all that much in common with Jesus- I wish I had more- but I got at least “ one “ thing in common with Him.....I don’t get along with “ religious “ people.......Christians I just naturally love —- Religious people make me ill.....Religionists in the Real World , just like the Legalists and the Religionists in here just don’t seem to like me all that well and I put that as a feather in my cap.....The self- Righteous Religionists Of Jesus day hated Him too...
Truth be told, I am too much of a sinner to be considered to be “ like Jesus”—- but what I just described? At least, I got “ THAT”......and it gives me hope.....
I would wager that others in these Forums are like me....not nearly the people that they might appear to be....it would be great if we could all get together sometime and actually meet each other and see how nice and friendly we all are....I bet even old “ Bible Highlighter” is not “ Near” the Jerk he appears to be.....JUST KIDDING !!!!! ......I bet he’s a real nice guy in real life....I might disagree with him and others, but if any of those guys needed any help with anything, I would be there to help them...
Carl Emerson
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But you make it sound like a born again believer who abides in God cannot turn back to the vomit of his old life and be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin and depart from the living God.
That “ Vomit” represents your thinking before you repented and came to Christ—— you believed Satan’s lie that even though you might not be Perfect, you were doing your best and Hell was just for those guys that were out there in the Penitentiary ....If there is a SIN that every man must Repent Of , it’s the Sin Of being “ Self-Righteous” ..
As Paul said about his * LOST* Jewish Brothers—— they might have a Zeal for God , but if they try to get into Heaven “ Their” way, which is by Earning Salvation by “ being good enough” by Keeping the Law , etc. , They will continue to be Lost......They , and the Religionists Of today, have to submit to God’s Way —— a Means Of Righteousness “ WITHOUT THE LAW!”.......
In this present Age Of Grace, this side of the Cross, the ONLY way to get the Righteousness that will get you Saved is to obtain a 100% Righteousness That is *IMPUTED* to you when you REST in Paul’s Gospel, given to him by Jesus and found in 1Cor15:1-4.....You “ rest” in it when you see the futility and the Sin of trying to Add to it....
That “ Vomit” represents your thinking before you repented and came to Christ—— you believed Satan’s lie that even though you might not be Perfect, you were doing your best and Hell was just for those guys that were out there in the Penitentiary ....If there is a SIN that every man must Repent Of , it’s the Sin Of being “ Self-Righteous” ..
As Paul said about his * LOST* Jewish Brothers—— they might have a Zeal for God , but if they try to get into Heaven “ Their” way, which is by Earning Salvation by “ being good enough” by Keeping the Law , etc. , They will continue to be Lost......They , and the Religionists Of today, have to submit to God’s Way —— a Means Of Righteousness “ WITHOUT THE LAW!”.......
In this present Age Of Grace, this side of the Cross, the ONLY way to get the Righteousness that will get you Saved is to obtain a 100% Righteousness That is *IMPUTED* to you when you REST in Paul’s Gospel, given to him by Jesus and found in 1Cor15:1-4.....You “ rest” in it when you see the futility and the Sin of trying to Add to it....
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And this would make you derelict in your “ Duty”—— you can't even Keep the #1 Commandment which is to love God with “ALL” of your Heart, with “ ALL” Of your Soul and with “ ALL” of your mind......only Jesus could do That and you ain’t Jesus,,,,
For all of you out there that have the brains , the self- insight and the Humility to know and admit that they cant keep the Commandments ( there are 613 of them if you are keeping track) why not do what God wants you to do? There’s a great big “ Loop -Hole “ out there that God provided that will Save you completely “without the Works Of The Law”....... it’s called the Gospel ......
Trust in what God did * FOR* you , as opposed to trusting in what * You * are doing for God and He will Save you forever.....
For your simple Trust, God will take ALL of your sins and put them on the Cross and then take The Perfection Of Jesus and He will Impute that to your Heavenly Account .....wouldn’t that be “ Good News” If it were True? It is.
Don’t reject God’s Grace.....grab hold of the “ Loop-Hole!” .....it’s the only chance you got! God is going to Ask you about it on Judgement Day ..... The “ way out” Of constantly trying to keep Commandments that both God and You know that you can’t keep is to simply *Believe* the Gospel Of Grace—— read all about in 1Cor15:1-4.....May God “ open your Heart” to the Truth Of The Gospel....
Correct......but Jesus ain’t talking about the Commandments Of Moses, He is talking about ** HIS ** Commandments.......there are two—— NOT the Big Ten and not the 613 .....obey the Two Laws Of Jesus and watch everything else take care of itself ——-I know that this type Of Thinking is beyond the grasp of a man with limited intelligence, but this is for any Newbies in the crowd that have insight into Spiritual Matters.....
Those Two Laws Of Jesus ( 1john3:23) are—- #1 Believe. #2 Love.
As I said.....concentrate on these two and see what happens...
This “motive” is wrong if you are doing Any type of Work to GET yourself Saved, or to KEEP yourself Saved....Those are DEAD WORKS.....
We were “ Created unto Good Works”......that was never meant to imply that we are SAVED by those Good Works ....we get Saved by Trusting Christ and His Finished Work Of The Cross...the “ good Works” will follow your Salvation if the Holy Spirit hangs around long enough....
God “ SURE IS” talking to me here! In this post and in just a few very recent ones He is letting me see the REAL you......God is showing me finally how totally Confused and Blind you are in regard to His Word.... You would not Understand “ Falling from Grace” if it came up and bit you on your —— let’s say “ posterior”......only a Fool would think that Paul is talking exclusively about Circumcism .....it’s getting late and I am tired—- I will attempt to set you straight on “ That” later... ( very unlikely, but at least the Newbies will have the chance to get it right)
I also see that in a few posts down from here you have proven yourself to be a Proponent Of “Lucky Repentance” , whereby if you bump your head and say a bad word and have a sudden heart attack and you don’t get the chance or the “ Luck” to repent, you get Damned forever ......wow....you are a sick puppy.An ABSOLUTE Denier Of The Grace Of God that “could” have Saved your like it has saved every man that has ever “ BEEN” Saved ( “It is by *GRACE* that you have been Saved”—— pretty simple, huh? )
BUT RIGHT NOW I AM TOO TIRED TO TRY TO SET YOU STRAIGHT .....I AM APPARENTLY TOO TIRED TO TURN OFF MY CAP LOCK THINGY ALSO.....I SINCERELY HOPE THAT THIS DOES NOT ANNOY YOU.....AFTER YOUR COnDESCENDING REMARK, YOU CAN EXPECT TO SEE A LOT MORE OF IT.....LOL....
Taken
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You had said:
Which seemed a strange term, since the suffix “ism” means the “practice” of “something”.
Salvation is a “gift”. It was strange, to imply one “practices a gift given them”.
* Receiving of a “soul”, a created “earthling” is “made physically alive”.
** Receiving of “salvation”, an “created earthling” is “made spiritually alive”.
It is historical knowledge we learn...
* Who, What, When, How, Why...God Created and Made “KINDS” of things.
Who - God; (Word, Will, Power)...(Us, Our)
What - Kind;
What - (Heaven/Earth, Plants, Trees, Animals, Man)...(Condition, ie Good)
When - Beginning
How - (Word, Will, Power)..(Speaks, Idea, Ability)
Why - Gods Pleasure
** The MYSTERY
Every “NATURAL” (ie Earthly) Created and Made - GOOD KIND of thing ...
MUST DIE...BEFORE it can RECEIVE “SALVATION”!
Every “Earthly” (natural thing)...begins as a SEED.
Every “SEED”, (plants, animals, people KINDS of things)...
SEED beginning...the SEED itself DIES, in ORDER, to MAKE the:
The Thing (plants, animals, people).
...
A “plant” female seed, pod, nut, etc. requires fertilization of a male and requires dirt & water to develop.
A female “animal / man” seed, ovum, requires a male “seed” sperm to fertilize and requires a womb with earthen minerals & water to develop.
...
They grow, in (good conditions and develop and flourish or grow in poor conditions and die).
...
The Earth IS the Habitat of Plants, Animals, Man- Kinds of things.
The Earth IS the LIFE-SOURCE TO “MAINTAIN” those Kinds of things.
When the Earth becomes “CORRUPT”, so ALSO do the “maintainable” things, (plants, animals, man) become “Corrupt”.
Scripture expressly teaches HOW TO, care FOR the EARTH/LAND, to KEEP the LAND in “GOOD” condition, to provide “GOOD” necessary “MAINTAINABILITY” for plants, animals, man............AND?
Paying Attention; to what man teaches, promotes, accepts, does....Big time; POISONS; & Covering the Land with concrete.
* God OFFERS, MAN-KIND of thing, A “DIFFERENT” SEED.
* A SEED, that will NEVER DIE.
* A SEED, immune to Corruption.
* Gods SEED.
* Man-KIND of thing, MUST FIRST, BE FREELY WILLING by his own Individual CHOOSING, to ACCEPT Gods OFFERING...
* Gods OFFERING, REQUIRES, the Man-KIND of thing, TO FREELY GIVE his own, Naturally Created Body unto DEATH, in “ORDER and WAY”; to Receive, Gods EVER LIVING SEED.
The “ORDER and WAY”, is according to Gods “Order and Way”.
His Offering. His Seed. His Giving.
Gods Giving of His SEED, is a ONE TIME Gift, to ONE man.
What ONE man does, or does not do, HAS NO dependence or effect on what another man does or does not do.
Men debating, arguing, agreeing, disagreeing over God Giving HIS Gift of Salvation AND “THEN removing, taking back, dissolving, HIS Gift of Salvation”, IS NOT Scriptural Teaching, IS NOT According to Gods; Word, Will, Power, Order, Way.
Gods Gift of Salvation is Expressly Between ONE man and ONE Lord God Almighty.
Men carrying on debating, arguing, disagreeing, “THAT” their opinions, their philosophies, their thoughts HAVE one iota to do with another mans ONE on ONE established and secure Relationship with the Lord God Almighty, is ludicrous on its face.
Bottom Line...Receiving of Gods Gift of Salvation, According to Gods Order and Way, Requires a mans WILLINGNESS to give his OWN BODY unto DEATH, to RECEIVE, Gods SEED of eternal LIFE.
I can NOT GIVE, your body FOR YOU, or anyone else, and visa versa.
I can NOT speak for you, perform a ritual, establish a ceremony,
FOR YOU, or anyone else, and visa versa and declare you have “RECEIVED” Gods Gift of Salvation, or visa versa.
Receiving of Gods Gift of Salvation, according to Gods “order and way”, is PERSONAL, between ONE individual and the Lord God Almighty.
Glory to God,
Taken
Taken
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@Behold
WORKS -
Delineate! Establish Proper Context!
What “works” can one single man DO to Please God?
The Disciples asked Jesus that very question.
And Jesus answered that very question.
Men were “wondering”, would God be “pleased for men”, with the works of man to fill their belly with FOOD, to maintain their Living Condition.
Jesus explained, a man filling his belly with FOOD, grain, bread, meat, IS Temporary.
Man filling his BODY, with A WORK pleasing to God.....IS...BELIEVING.
Believing WHAT?
Believing Gods WORD OF TRUTH.
What IS Gods WORD OF TRUTH?
JESUS!
John 6:
[26] Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled.
[27] Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.
[28] Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
[29] Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
Pay attention...expressly ^^^ THAT IS A WORK...BELIEF of THAT individual man.
WORK(S), thereafter IS “behaviors” OF that individual man.
BEHAVIORS that extends beyond the established Relationship of THAT ONE man and God, “TO” behavior between “MEN and MEN”.
Once a Relationship Between ONE man and God “are” Established (via that ONE WORK, of a man’s BELIEF in Christ Jesus...)
That ONE man IS: “TWO FOLD PREPARED”;
1) Prepared to Forever Be “WITH” the Lord God Almighty
2) Prepared to Mingle Among “other” men AS A REPRESENTATIVE of the Lord God Almighty.
Men “mingling” among “other” men CAN DO WORKS, in Jesus’ Name, (accrediting Jesus), for any Works ONE man Does for another man...
...charity, helping hand, food, clothing, shelter, teaching, whatever...Ability to “help”, via whatever works, accredited TO the Lord.
FOR THOSE WORKS, one man DOES for another man, AND ACCREDITS the Lord for the mans ABILITY TO HELP the other.....
WHAT?
The man helping WILL BE SAVED? No.
WHAT?
The man helping WILL BE REWARDED? Yes.
Matt 16:
[27] For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
IF a mans “works” glorifies “himself”, no reward from the Lord.
If a mans “works” glorifies “God”, the mans “works” shall be rewarded.
And FYI, “works” not worthy of “reward” are “burned”.
Delineate “WORKS”.
ONE work, is between one man and God...of the mans BELIEF in Christ Jesus.
MULTIPLE work(S), is between one man and another man.
IF the work(S) between men, Glorifies God...God Rewards.
IF the work(S) between men, glorifies man...Works shall be ultimately burned.
Glory to God,
Taken
@Bible Highlighter
@Behold
WORKS -
Delineate! Establish Proper Context!
What “works” can one single man DO to Please God?
The Disciples asked Jesus that very question.
And Jesus answered that very question.
Men were “wondering”, would God be “pleased for men”, with the works of man to fill their belly with FOOD, to maintain their Living Condition.
Jesus explained, a man filling his belly with FOOD, grain, bread, meat, IS Temporary.
Man filling his BODY, with A WORK pleasing to God.....IS...BELIEVING.
Believing WHAT?
Believing Gods WORD OF TRUTH.
What IS Gods WORD OF TRUTH?
JESUS!
John 6:
[26] Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled.
[27] Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.
[28] Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
[29] Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
Pay attention...expressly ^^^ THAT IS A WORK...BELIEF of THAT individual man.
WORK(S), thereafter IS “behaviors” OF that individual man.
BEHAVIORS that extends beyond the established Relationship of THAT ONE man and God, “TO” behavior between “MEN and MEN”.
Once a Relationship Between ONE man and God “are” Established (via that ONE WORK, of a man’s BELIEF in Christ Jesus...)
That ONE man IS: “TWO FOLD PREPARED”;
1) Prepared to Forever Be “WITH” the Lord God Almighty
2) Prepared to Mingle Among “other” men AS A REPRESENTATIVE of the Lord God Almighty.
Men “mingling” among “other” men CAN DO WORKS, in Jesus’ Name, (accrediting Jesus), for any Works ONE man Does for another man...
...charity, helping hand, food, clothing, shelter, teaching, whatever...Ability to “help”, via whatever works, accredited TO the Lord.
FOR THOSE WORKS, one man DOES for another man, AND ACCREDITS the Lord for the mans ABILITY TO HELP the other.....
WHAT?
The man helping WILL BE SAVED? No.
WHAT?
The man helping WILL BE REWARDED? Yes.
Matt 16:
[27] For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
IF a mans “works” glorifies “himself”, no reward from the Lord.
If a mans “works” glorifies “God”, the mans “works” shall be rewarded.
And FYI, “works” not worthy of “reward” are “burned”.
Delineate “WORKS”.
ONE work, is between one man and God...of the mans BELIEF in Christ Jesus.
MULTIPLE work(S), is between one man and another man.
IF the work(S) between men, Glorifies God...God Rewards.
IF the work(S) between men, glorifies man...Works shall be ultimately burned.
Glory to God,
Taken
The problem BB is that the religionists of Jesus’ day (i.e. the Pharisees) angered our Lord Jesus not because they over emphasized obedience to God but because they ignored the weightier matters of the Law like love, faith, judgment, and mercy.
Matthew 23:23
“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.”
Luke 11:42
“But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.”
Another problem is that the Pharisees had traditions that nullified the Word of God.
“Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.” (Mark 7:13).
You seem to think disobedience to God should be praised while believing on Jesus for salvation.
Yet, nowhere did Jesus advocate disobedience to God in favor of grace.
Note: Yes, I am aware of Luke 18:9-14 and the wrong assumption many Protestants today have on that passage.
But that is just one passage. The majority of the teachings of our Lord Jesus were one of obedience. If you met Jesus, He would not advocate disobedience but He would desire you to obey.
For God wants us to do good and not evil.
Obeying God’s instructions is not legalism.
In fact, Protestant teaches that religion is bad.
Yet, James says, “Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.” (James 1:27).
Plz explain if you will by your statement," you don't have all that much in common with Jesus.
First, no translation I am aware of says that the crowd (not the disciples) who followed Jesus (in seeking after the physical food) actually asked the question, “What works can one single man do to please God?”
John 6:28 says,
“Then said they unto him,
What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?”
So you are adding to the Word of God two things here.
#1. You said: “one single man” in John 6:28 (When translations say, “we” or “us”).
#2. You said: “do to please God” in John 6:28 (When translations simply say, “What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?”).
Note: Again, there is nothing about various translations saying what they must do to please God (Although, I am sure that is potentially would have been their unspoken motivation).
#2. You said: “do to please God” in John 6:28 (When translations simply say, “What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?”).
Note: Again, there is nothing about various translations saying what they must do to please God (Although, I am sure that is potentially would have been their unspoken motivation).
Second, it was the crowd (and not the disciples) that followed Jesus to be filled with the physical food by the miracle of Jesus and not the disciples who asked the question in John 6:28 in what they must do that they might work the works of God. The many disciples spoke up later in regards to Jesus’ words on eating his flesh and drinking his blood (in the fact that they found those words offensive). Note: Most Christians today find Jesus’ words on obedience and sin to be offensive. So they seek to change His words in Scripture.
Anyways, your changes upon God’s Word merely shows so far that you are not honoring the text in what it says, but you are inserting your own imagination upon the Bible.
You said:
Most people are not even aware of what the word “delineate” means.
For the benefit of our other readers here: Delineate means: “describe or portray (something) precisely.”
Well, while I do say this in love, to put it bluntly: You did not successfully describe precisely what was going on here. You also did not establish proper context because you have changed facts in the narrative of the Bible.
My next post to you, I will attempt to explain with Scripture what is going on in John 6 for the benefit of those believers who may come across this forum seeking the truth.
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Exactly!
If you are a son, then you will be chastened, and that chastening will be effective.
"My camp" may not be the best way to think about this, btw. Regardless,
IF you are His son, you will be chastened, and that chastening will be effective. Trust Him!
Much love!
Who is?
Regeneration doesn't work that way. I don't see anyone here justifying sin, except in the sense of Jesus justifying us, making us righteous. But not like you seem to be saying, that sin is just perfectly OK, and we can just dive right in. How repugnant!
I don't believe that if we commit sin that it cancels our rebirth. If that makes me in your mind the kind of believer who justifies sin and evil, so be it, and maybe we don't have much more to talk about.
Much love!
John 6:26-29 says:
26 “Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled.
27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.
28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.”
And here is my commentary to the text (to the edification of those few faithful believers today).
John 6:26
“Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled.
Jesus said these words to the crowd (and not the disciples) who followed after Him seeking after the physical bread and not the spiritual bread of life (which is Jesus). They desired the physical, and not the spiritual (Much like today in popular Christianity. They seek to justify the carnal things like sin, unfruitfulness, disobedience to God, and what pleases them physically instead of seeking the spiritual things of God by actually obeying Him; For them it’s all about grace, grace, grace at the expense of ignoring the Bibles many warnings on sin destroying our souls, etcetera; Christians today do not even fear God, which is a violation of Romans 3:18).
John 6:27
“Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.”
The word “meat” here is archaic in the King James Bible. It simply means “food” and it points to Jesus later reference of how He is the bread of life (John 6:35). (See the definitions here for the word “meat” at KingJamesBibleDictionary.com). So Jesus is saying labor not for the physical food that perishes but labor for the food (Jesus) which endures unto everlasting life. Meaning, we are to labor and or work for Jesus which endures unto everlasting life. But there are two things that need to happen before we can labor or work for Jesus (of which I will describe in another post; Also, the work or labor is not what one may think it means, either). Anyways, we see that the Son of man (Jesus) is the one who shall give this food (of Himself) to others. This aligns with John 12:32 that says, “And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.” Meaning: After Jesus had risen from the grave three days later after His crucifixion, He would draw all men unto Himself. So this how the Son of man (Jesus) is able to gift Himself to a person to all because He draws all men to himself (Which would begin for all men after the resurrection). This all men would be both the Jews, and the Gentiles. But in this narrative in John 6, Jesus was speaking to a Jewish crowd. We learn even before the cross, that Jesus forgave sins of various Jews along with healing them physically. The bread of life (Jesus) came into their life and He changed them radically on a spiritual level. One great example of this is with the woman who could not stop kissing Jesus’ feet and who washed his feet with her tears (See: Luke 7:36-50).
John 6:28
“Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?”
Here we see the Jewish crowd asking Jesus what they must do based on what Jesus just said in that they must labor for the food that endures unto everlasting life. Unfortunately, this Jewish crowd (like the Belief Alone-ism crowd) had a one tract mind and they could not actually hear or listen to what Jesus was really saying fully because they asked later about how God gave Moses physical bread from Heaven (See: John 6:30-31). They wanted physical bread and they even quoted Scripture to fill their need. This is what it is like when I talk with Belief Alone Christians today. They want to justify the idea that they can sin, and they will even use certain verses out of context to prove that point.
John 6:29 is going to be a long commentary. I also have to do an errand, as well. So I will be back to explain this one in depth with God’s Word (Lord willing).
May the Lord Jesus Christ bless you all (even if I may disagree on God’s Word).
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Taken
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If you are confused, that God is the creator and maker of ALL of manKIND for Gods own Pleasure...that would be your problem, not mine.
Taken
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1: to be afraid of : expect with alarmfear the worst
2: to have a reverential awe offear God
Afraid (FEAR) of God, is effected when one DOES NOT KNOW God.
Reverence (FEAR) of God, is effected when one DOES KNOW God.
Context!
Michiah-Imla
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Oh the Pharisee way: change meanings by vain speeches.
“And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you.” (Deuteronomy 13:10-11)
Yes, CONTEXT!
You would stop doing evil if you just witnessed an evil doer get executed…
You would be AFRAID to suffer the same consequence!
I see part of the problem here is we experience GRACE from God but we LACK grace with one another.
I can be your sister w/ o 100% of your agreement with me, unless you don't know God. Then there is no relationship.
Jesus said we are the SALT to the world. What does salt do, it increases your thirst. Jesus offers the water of life FREELY. He said drink til you're filled.
Even as seasoned BELIEVERS we should establish a common ground upon engagement. Do we each know how to and whom by to be saved. If this answer is per the word then we are family. Disputes on DOCTRINE is another matter and should be approached to NOT offend.
Say as your sister I marry a man of another ethnicity. Now we are of the same faith & belief but his culture may be different, is there common ground ? Then what are your objections , are they valid?
Maybe it's just men but I feel anger emitting from post and domination as opposed to strength and boldness, with love in breaking the word of life !
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