The Insanity of the "right" to have guns!

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Cristo Rei

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So, they were forced to hand in the guns? The article says that the government bought the guns back from the citizens.

Do you see the irony here? Maybe you don't. You are up to your chin in alligators.

First, the government used YOUR tax money to "purchase" your guns. Secondly, the article refers to the program as a "mandatory gun buyback program". The wording implies that the government formerly owned the guns, the citizens bought them originally from the government, and finally the government bought them back. The government didn't "buy back" the guns, they confiscated the guns.

Secondly, if the purpose was to implement a strict set of laws concerning gun ownership, Firearms Registry for example, why buy the guns? Why not allow people to keep the guns, while waiting to obtain the required permits?

In reality, you can't "own" a gun in Australia. You just think you can. It's all about wording and obfuscation. When I own something, I am free to use it anyway I want. I don't need anybody's permission. I don't need to give anyone a reason. I don't need the government's permission to use a screwdriver. I just go to the hardware store, purchase a screwdriver, and use it however it pleases me.

I'm guessing that most Australians didn't go through all the bureaucratic hoops to "buy back" their own guns. Thus, rather than making Australians safer, they made them less safe because the government removed the deterrent against the common criminal that comes to the house at night to steal your stuff or rape your wife.

Do you know what this means?

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

This statement comes from our constitution. This second amendment to our constitution enumerates our unalienable rights as citizens, which stands above the laws of the land. It acknowledges that God will hold each individual personally liable for responsibilities he assigns to that particular individual. The basis of the second amendment is the fact that God will hold a man responsible to protect his family from evil, and that since each individual is personally answerable to God for the protection of his family, he will hold the government accountable if it should infringe on a man's right to protect himself, his family, and his neighbors.

If this is true, then it applies worldwide. If true, then every human being, by virtue of being a creature under God's rule, must be allowed to not only protect himself and his family, but to protect his town or his village.

Bottom line, God is going to hold every individual on the planet personally responsible for allowing the government to usurp that responsibility. We can hire the government to help us, but the government should never encroach or infringe upon the individual's authority to protect his family. And the individual person would violate God's will if he or she should give up sovereignty to the state.

Individual Australians are violating God's will.

Still won't admit you were wrong...
Whatever
And you still treating me like I'm anti gun when I've repeatedly said I'm not.
All I said was that you can buy guns in Australia contrary to your false claim that we are "disarmed "
 
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Cristo Rei

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American- Oh look at you Aussies unarmed no guns

Aussie- Uh no we have guns

American- Oh but blah blah blah blah

Aussie- No you said we have no guns.
You were wrong

American- but blah blah blah

Aussie- Like whatever... LoL...:rolleyes:
 
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can you really "protect" your family from a gang of armed thugs? or the stray bullet from a gun? or from a runaway car, or a train crash?

There are THOUSANDS of things that can happen to any one of God's children, which we can do NOTHING about to protect ouselves, or families from!

As I said, I will do what I can and it is my responsibility to do so. I will protect them from the things that I am able to do so. You can keep listing things till the cows come home, but it doesn't change my mind or change what I am saying. I will protect them from the things that I am able to.

This is the point you're not getting.
 

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As I said, I will do what I can and it is my responsibility to do so. I will protect them from the things that I am able to do so. You can keep listing things till the cows come home, but it doesn't change my mind or change what I am saying. I will protect them from the things that I am able to.

This is the point you're not getting.

yes it is all about EGO!
 

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yes it is all about EGO!

Has nothing to do with ego and everything to do with doing my best to keep my family safe from the things that I am able to keep them safe from.

I realize you don't know me beyond what I post, but if you did you would know that I am not an egotistical person.
 

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"God shall judge between the nations, and shall decide for many peoples; and they shall beat their swords into ploughshares, and spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation; neither shall they learn war any more" Isaiah 2:4
We're not there yet.

So we have wars raging around the globe right now. We don't hear too much except what the news thinks we should know.
I hear, USA is the only place with this many mass shootings...
But places like the Congo are using machetes and dismembering whole communities.
Now if those communities had guns perhaps they wouldn't get chopped to pieces, just sayin.
Uigers in China are kept in concentration camps in China. Raped, beaten, killed, but hey, that's China, that's how they do things, it's their umm culture.
We don't want that culture here in the US. So we stick to our right to defend ourselves.
If you haven't noticed lately, law enforcement isn't necessarily on law abiding citizens side. They let the criminals go. Free them from jail, no bail.
A man shot after a family in a car trying to avoid an anteefa virus, and shot 2 of his buddies and a girl in the face. He got 5 years probation.
Probation. Next time it could be your family in that car, and who is going to protect you?

God gave us a brain and we aught to use it.
Until God reigns on earth and puts the evil in hell prison, swords need to remain swords and ploughshares, ploughshares.
We live in critical times.
No one here is advocating for going out and killing people. We simply want to defend our own from those who do.

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You Americans have been lied to buy your MSM about guns in Australia... Most of you think there are no guns here cos the media has used us a propaganda "look at Australia no guns no mass shootings". It's all bs my friends. Yes there are heavy gun restrictions here but people can still buy guns contrary to popular American belief
It’s the same with the U.K. Cristo….we have guns, my son in law has quite a few. His father has them. Now my younger son would never be allowed to own one because he has mental health issue- so he would never get a licence .
 
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Great job Ziggy!

You are right. The UK has its days...but America has some serious problems...stinkin thinkin is one of them....basic logic escapes them. If you do not want drinking and driving, why do bars have parking lots? The left is for this mythical gun control and they oppose the death penalty but they will literally fight you for the right to murder 600,000 babies a year. And support opening pot shops that are walking distances from schools.

Now schools shooting, they are going to keep happening until people wise up. Gun control makes as much sense as thinking sweeping your floors is the thing to do when your house is on fire. It is not the cause or the solution.

Now I have a semi-automatic clip feed 12 gauge assault shotgun with a laser sight, perfect for going to a school and killing children. Now I can set that on my kitchen table....keep it there....make it a center piece. And I can wait a hundred years and that thing will never get up and go kill children....and it does not have the capacity to want to.

Want to....now that is the point. Ziggy, how many levels of insanity would it take for you to want to go to a school and kill children?
Same thing goes for me. Much less do it. Here in America we do not want to punish drug use that changes the thinking of the mind. We do not want to lock up the menially disturbed, because we do not think it is their fault. Instead they drug them up, which can make the situation worse and let the fungus walk among us. Putting everyone else at jeopardy because the normal mind is not going to expect them to do the things that they do.

What would it take for you or I to even think of pulling the trigger to kill children.....much less do it. Can we understand the mind that would want to? Can we understand the pain that mind is in? Do we want to understand it? In the Bible mental illnesses were thought to be caused by demons. Was the Bible entirely wrong? I do not think so. Would the devil delight in the killing of innocence?
I can imagine him fanning his wings over an abortion clinic or a school shooting taking in all the evil. So is this desire to kill babies connected to the killing of children in schools? Is the devil behind both? I think it is a possibility.

Now I like Texans, but I do not know what they are thinking. I live in a medium sized town and it is mostly peaceful. But you just cannot walk into a school here, they are locked down. You have to be on a list to enter. And it is officially against school policy for the faculty to carry guns, but I know some that do. We can debate the topic of gun control and in act gun laws and it will not do a lick of good. We need to change how we handle the menially disturbed. George Floyd and Roddy King were good examples. Criminally mentally disturbed drug addicts....George Floyd participated in a home invasion. Who gets blamed?...law enforcement. Instead of psychiatrists and institutions dealing with these people, it is left to law enforcement and they are not trained for that.

Now it can take a long time for us to learn how to handle the mentally disturbed. We need to change how we handle the threats.
But for now we need to expect the unexpected. We need to lockdown our schools and setup security measures. Government buildings have security, aren't our children that important? We live in a world where evil is coddled, we better be prepared.

You want to get to the core of the problem we have to pay attention to the mental doctors so called treatment of patients.
The medications they give them. The drugs on the streets, allowed to freely flow unobstructed.
There is an agenda out for our blood. And they won't cease until we walk in fear of our lives every moment of every day.
I refuse to comply with their agenda.
I have no fear for myself.
But the world as a whole is on a course that if God don't intervene soon, there will be no way back.
Pray.
Keep your kids away from people like teachers and doctors that only desire to transform them into their image and not God's.
Lot of sick people in this world taking advantage of the children and the parents are clueless.
Time to wakey wakey..
God Bless the Children
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Bygrace is a coward. He thinks someone else AKA big govt will keep him safe. Real men dont ask permission and real men accept self defense as their job as man of the house.
 
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