If we don’t know what Jesus said in scripture then we won’t be able to faithfully represent him.
The curious case of John 5:4
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If we don’t know what Jesus said in scripture then we won’t be able to faithfully represent him.
Ritajanice
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Jesus is represented from within the heart, the Bible does not represent the heart, the Spirit represents the heart.
Our heart represents Jesus, not the Bible.
The words that Jesus spoke are spirit and life (John 6:63).
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Yes indeed, which they must be spoke to the heart, supernaturally , by Gods Living witness, His Holy Spirit.
Spirit gives birth to spirit.= supernatural Living rebirth.
The Bible represents the heart of God.
Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. The wise will compare what is spoken with what is written in the Bible.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
They are recorded, preserved for us, in the Bible.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Sorry it doesn’t, The Spirit within us, should represent the heart of God
Out of the heart, the Spirit should speak, not the flesh.
.fully surrender your heart over to God.
St. SteVen
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The written word law is condemnatory. Here's the whole context.
2 Corinthians 3:6-11 NIV
He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—
not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
7 Now if the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone,
came with glory, so that the Israelites could not look steadily at the face of Moses
because of its glory, transitory though it was,
8 will not the ministry of the Spirit be even more glorious?
9 If the ministry that brought condemnation was glorious,
how much more glorious is the ministry that brings righteousness!
10 For what was glorious has no glory now
in comparison with the surpassing glory.
11 And if what was transitory came with glory,
how much greater is the glory of that which lasts!
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Ritajanice
Born-Again
which they must be spoke to the heart, supernaturally , by Gods Living witness, His Holy Spirit.
Spirit gives birth to spirit.= supernatural Living rebirth.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Eternally Grateful
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Yes and his words are written in scripture for all to see. Nt only what he said here on earth and after, but what he said int he OT as well
Ritajanice
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St. SteVen
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Most respondents on this topic are trying to defend the transitory ministry of condemnation and death that has no glory now.
The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
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That’s a shocking statement. Were I to hear it said from the pulpit, I would leave. A preacher who would say that is a charlatan.
Yes, but it’s not ”our heart vs. the Bible”. They must fo together.
Eternally Grateful
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or they could be read in his word.
Yes spirit gives birth.
Jesus said it is the spirit that gives life, the words he speaks are spirit and they are life.. The food which endures forever is the words of Jesus, given by the spirit. by which whoever eats those words and believes in them are given eternal life
We can know that it is or it isn’t by comparing with what is recorded in the Bible.
Eternally Grateful
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Ritajanice
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Are we on topic?
What’s a shocking statement?
We don’t need the Bible, to know that we are Born Of God’s seed.
Are we on topic?
Eternally Grateful
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wow, just wow. I pray I am reading this wrong.. the bible is not the heart of God? Why did god spend 2000 years putting it together for then?
WOWO
The spirit speaks through his word. It is our knowledge of the word, as found through scripture. by which the spirit speaks.
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